Re: slack invite

2017-04-18 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:58 PM, 郭志鹏 wrote: > i want to ask some question but I first use email list and this slack so if > I do something wrong please criticize me Thank you for your interest. The Ubuntu Slack was an experiment and has not really been used in months, so I don't think it woul

Re: Slack

2016-03-08 Thread Tim
On 08/03/16 19:47, Narcis Garcia wrote: > Please, don't write my e-mail address in any slack.com form without my > consent. Now why would we do that? You are not even an active team member... If people want to join they can ask. > > > El 08/03/16 a les 01:09, Tim ha escrit: >> >> On 08/03/16 04

Re: Slack

2016-03-08 Thread Narcis Garcia
Please, don't write my e-mail address in any slack.com form without my consent. El 08/03/16 a les 01:09, Tim ha escrit: > > > On 08/03/16 04:50, Alfredo Hernández wrote: >> Any updates about this? > For now we have #gnome on ubuntu.slack.org, although at this stage the Ubuntu > instance is rea

Re: Slack

2016-03-07 Thread Tim
On 08/03/16 04:50, Alfredo Hernández wrote: > Any updates about this? For now we have #gnome on ubuntu.slack.org, although at this stage the Ubuntu instance is really just a test. People need to be invited unless they have an ubuntu email address, however any user can invite more people. > > Has

Re: Slack

2016-03-07 Thread Patrik Bubák
y all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on. Original Message Subject: Re: Slack Local Time: March 7, 2016 6:50

Re: Slack

2016-03-07 Thread Alfredo Hernández
Any updates about this? Has Slack been set up for Ubuntu GNOME? Are there any (unlimited + free) alternatives? Ali has a point, Slack (and similar products) are just better for dealing with large teams, allowing natively to set up schedules, tasks, etc. On 29 February 2016 at 07:36, Tim wrote:

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Tim
On 29/02/16 01:28, Jasper Backer wrote: > If we're going to need anything like this, I would say Discourse is the best > fit. How are other Ubuntu-based distro's handling this? Discourse seems somewhat orthogonal to IRC/Chat platforms, I guess it would be a better substitute for mailing list/f

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Ali/amjjawad
Hi, On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:07 AM, Usama Akkad wrote: > Dear Ali, > > This is not a kingdom. It's community project. We are interested in > Ubuntu Gnome. Show me, don't tell me ;) You may check the public archive of this mailing list. See how many shout for help this community has not respon

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Usama Akkad
Dear Ali, This is not a kingdom. It's community project. We are interested in Ubuntu Gnome. We can help as we can. Should we send you a report of our contributions to the FLOSS community in the last month so you will respect our opinions? Our discussion and decisions are not related to any theori

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Jasper Backer
Hi, If we're going to need anything like this, I would say Discourse is the best fit. How are other Ubuntu-based distro's handling this? (Who changed the Facebook wall picture? It looks awful and does not suit the project). Greets, Jasper On 28-02-16 11:42, Tim wrote: On 28/02/16 21:07,

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Tim
On 28/02/16 21:07, Narcis Garcia wrote: > The world is not black + white, but our right to decide our freedom is. > Why you aren't publishing Slack source code? > Will this question drive us to the two models discussion? I have nothing to do with slack, and I certainly don't have access to the s

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Narcis Garcia
The world is not black + white, but our right to decide our freedom is. Why you aren't publishing Slack source code? Will this question drive us to the two models discussion? We are here for Ubuntu & Gnome projects, and the first principle is IT freedom, not sparkly features. Let's do a better com

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Tim
On 28/02/16 20:43, Narcis Garcia wrote: > +1 about me. > I prefer freedom than sparkly features. > Individual and collective freedom is a big and basic feature for IT. > Ubuntu & Gnome projects are very concerned about this. > > Do you feel this discussion is not working well due to the mailing l

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Tim
On 28/02/16 20:39, Narcis Garcia wrote: > I don't understand why we discussing here about changing free software > model by privative software model. We are not talking about changing the software model. > > Tim, I feel that this list is intended to a (composed) FLOSS project and > its growing wi

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Narcis Garcia
+1 about me. I prefer freedom than sparkly features. Individual and collective freedom is a big and basic feature for IT. Ubuntu & Gnome projects are very concerned about this. Do you feel this discussion is not working well due to the mailing list way? El 28/02/16 a les 10:38, Tim ha escrit: >

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Narcis Garcia
I don't understand why we discussing here about changing free software model by privative software model. Tim, I feel that this list is intended to a (composed) FLOSS project and its growing with this model, and not for proprietary proposals discussing advantadges of privative software model. You

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Tim
On 28/02/16 20:12, Usama Akkad wrote: > If a propriety closed source service/tool without an alternative open > source service/tool we will use it. Right, but what happens when the open source tool is far inferior to the propriety service/tool. Many Foss fans will just boycott the proprietry to

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Tim
On 28/02/16 20:06, Usama Akkad wrote: > I asked a question: for now to see what is going on with Ubuntu Gnome we > visit this link. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/ > > no registration required, publicly visible and indexed by search engines. > > How communication in Slack would be

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Usama Akkad
If a propriety closed source service/tool without an alternative open source service/tool we will use it. This is the real issue. Just recently Fedora launchpad a project that could be an alternative to Github https://fedoramagazine.org/pagure-diy-git-project-hosting/ Other things you talked abo

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Usama Akkad
I asked a question: for now to see what is going on with Ubuntu Gnome we visit this link. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/ no registration required, publicly visible and indexed by search engines. How communication in Slack would be compared to that? On 28-02-2016 00:34, Tim wrote

Re: Slack

2016-02-28 Thread Tim
Both mattermost and Rocket.chat are self-hosted, who is going to setup/host/maintain the service? And what is the long term viability of the person who chooses to do that? Atleast with slack there is a migration path to mattermost, if/when we outgrow the free tier. On 19/02/16 13:14, Leo Fr

Re: Slack

2016-02-27 Thread Leo Francisco
I also recommend taking a look at discourse. It's open source forum software. Super slick! Might not be exactly right for Ubuntu GNOME but it's worth checking out. Here's a new instance that's just been setup for the Signal messenger community: https://whispersystems.discoursehosting.net/ Leo

Re: Slack

2016-02-27 Thread Tim
On 27/02/16 22:11, Usama Akkad wrote: > Will slack allow more communications to be hidden from the public too? > If so this is another thing that we should use try to avoid. How did you come to that conclusion? We are not trying to hide communications, more the opposite, to make it easier for n

Re: Slack

2016-02-27 Thread Tim
If a proprietry closed source service/tool works well, people will use it. github is a proprietry service, but is used by many open source projects, why? because it works well. Dropbox, Facebook and G+ are all proprietry, yet people use them in masses. VMware is proprietry but works ways better

Re: Slack

2016-02-27 Thread Usama Akkad
Hi, This is one of the places that we should not have to defend or encourage using of GPL and FLOSS over propriety softwares. Will slack allow more communications to be hidden from the public too? If so this is another thing that we should use try to avoid. Successful FLOSS software are usually a

Re: Slack

2016-02-27 Thread Narcis Garcia
GNU/Linux works better because of permanent community survey and discussion. It's not possible with closed source tools. El 27/02/16 a les 11:44, Alfredo Hernández ha escrit: > Some people choose GNU/Linux because it works better, simple as that. > The purpose and inception of Ubuntu GNOME was no

Re: Slack

2016-02-27 Thread Alfredo Hernández
Some people choose GNU/Linux because it works better, simple as that. The purpose and inception of Ubuntu GNOME was not to offer a free desktop, but a desktop that works better than the alternatives. On 27 Feb 2016 11:30 am, "Narcis Garcia" wrote: > Tim, you are discussing basic principles that c

Re: Slack

2016-02-27 Thread Narcis Garcia
Tim, you are discussing basic principles that concern Ubuntu and Gnome projects too. IT freedom is very important for people: to control and decide what your devices do with your data and communications. Privative software (gratuitous too) acts the same way as privative services (gratuitous too);

Re: Slack

2016-02-27 Thread Tim
On 27/02/16 20:19, Narcis Garcia wrote: > People is discussing two completely different focuses: > Freedom and Gratuity. > > These kind of services (they are services, not software products) > gratuity is ever incompatible with freedom (considering personal data as > a monetary value to trade wit

Re: Slack

2016-02-27 Thread Narcis Garcia
People is discussing two completely different focuses: Freedom and Gratuity. These kind of services (they are services, not software products) gratuity is ever incompatible with freedom (considering personal data as a monetary value to trade with). I prefer GNU/Linux (including Ubuntu and Gnome)

Re: Slack

2016-02-26 Thread Tim
Anyway we have setup #gnome on ubuntu.slack.com as test will see how it goes. If you dont have an ubuntu.com email address you will need to be invited to join the ubuntu slack (I believe this is a limitation of slack, nothing specific to the ubuntu instance), let us know on the list if you want t

Re: Slack

2016-02-26 Thread Tim
On 27/02/16 16:18, Khurshid Alam wrote: > Hi, > > Slack is quite efficient I think. You can have moderated channels and public > channels (still requires a slack id though). It is always better > to go with something that have some sort of notification systems for mobile > and desktops. Free se

Re: Slack

2016-02-26 Thread Khurshid Alam
Hi, Slack is quite efficient I think. You can have moderated channels and public channels (still requires a slack id though). It is always better to go with something that have some sort of notification systems for mobile and desktops. Free service includes browsing 10k most recent messages (rest

Re: Slack

2016-02-21 Thread Leo Francisco
Thanks for that Popey. Will have a play with Mattermost when I get a chance. We should have a look at this, even if it's just for fun. Leo On 19/02/16 13:32, Alan Pope wrote: > On 19 February 2016 at 13:14, Leo Francisco wrote: >> There are open source alternatives that may be worth exploring

Re: Slack

2016-02-21 Thread Tim
On 17/02/16 22:23, Ali/amjjawad wrote: > Hi, > > I've been thinking about this for sometime now. I think I'll give it a try > and ask you to read this email carefully, think about it wisely and > then tell me what do you think: > > https://slack.com/ > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivn5jfKE_

Re: Slack

2016-02-19 Thread Alan Pope
On 19 February 2016 at 13:14, Leo Francisco wrote: > There are open source alternatives that may be worth exploring > MatterMost and RocketChat. There's so much hype around Slack atm, not > sure what the long term viability of it is. It's basically fancy modern > proprietary IRC. > > I would alway

Re: Slack

2016-02-19 Thread Leo Francisco
There are open source alternatives that may be worth exploring MatterMost and RocketChat. There's so much hype around Slack atm, not sure what the long term viability of it is. It's basically fancy modern proprietary IRC. I would always be more enthused by an open source solution for the usual rea

Re: Slack

2016-02-18 Thread Tim
On 18/02/16 00:24, Narcis Garcia wrote: > I don't find server software license information. > Is it a tool* or is it a service? It is a proprietry service, and it is also rather expensive unless you forego complete project archives. There is a 10k message limit on the free plan. > > "Teams who p

Re: Slack

2016-02-17 Thread Narcis Garcia
I don't find server software license information. Is it a tool* or is it a service? "Teams who put robots on Mars" use free software (FLOSS). (*) Ubuntu's package "slack" is not related to slack.com El 17/02/16 a les 12:23, Ali/amjjawad ha escrit: > Hi, > > I've been thinking about this for so