On 27/02/16 20:19, Narcis Garcia wrote: > People is discussing two completely different focuses: > Freedom and Gratuity. > > These kind of services (they are services, not software products) > gratuity is ever incompatible with freedom (considering personal data as > a monetary value to trade with). Yes, I am not a fan of further fragmenting the comms channels, but people ask for these things, and I guess if it takes off, it could be better. > > I prefer GNU/Linux (including Ubuntu and Gnome) than Windows or MacOS > because of freedom matter, including better control over my contacts, my > documents and logs, my localization, preferences, activities, etc. Freedom comes at a cost, GPL is like a cancer, while it really got the whole open source movement going, these days it seems to cause more harm than good. I predict it will be obsolete in 10 years. I think in the long term the more permissive BSD/MIT licenses will win out, but that is just my opinion. > > Services with AGPL licenses concern this matter too. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_under_the_GNU_AGPL It should be pretty clear by now that open standard services are a non-starter look what happened to XMPP, look at what github has done proprietry extensions.
Then consider the AGPL is incompatible with GPL, GPLv3 is a mess and incompatible with GPLv2. Its a minefield out there, The freedom that GNU promotes is costing more than the actual freedom gained. > > > > El 27/02/16 a les 06:18, Khurshid Alam ha escrit: >> Hi, >> >> Slack is quite efficient I think. You can have moderated channels and >> public channels (still requires a slack id though). It is always better >> to go with something that have some sort of notification systems for >> mobile and desktops. Free service includes browsing 10k most recent >> messages (rest are archived). Shouldn't that be enough? >> >> Btw, is there a telegram group for Ubuntu-Gnome? I couldn't find it. May >> I also join? >> >> Thanks. >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Leo Francisco <li...@boywithwings.co.uk >> <mailto:li...@boywithwings.co.uk>> wrote: >> >> Thanks for that Popey. Will have a play with Mattermost when I get a >> chance. >> >> We should have a look at this, even if it's just for fun. >> >> Leo >> >> >> >> On 19/02/16 13:32, Alan Pope wrote: >> > On 19 February 2016 at 13:14, Leo Francisco <li...@boywithwings.co.uk >> <mailto:li...@boywithwings.co.uk>> wrote: >> >> There are open source alternatives that may be worth exploring >> >> MatterMost and RocketChat. There's so much hype around Slack atm, not >> >> sure what the long term viability of it is. It's basically fancy >> modern >> >> proprietary IRC. >> >> >> >> I would always be more enthused by an open source solution for the >> usual >> >> reasons. >> >> >> > On the community team we've been evaluating some of these new / >> > fashionable / interesting methods of communication. Slack is already >> > available at the following URL, but requires an @ubuntu or @canonical >> > email address I believe. It might be possible to be invited to join if >> > you don't have one of those though, they're just the pre-configured >> > domains I believe. >> > >> > http://ubuntu.slack.com/ >> > >> > We've also been looking at Mattermost, which is a free software tool >> > very much like Slack. I spun up a test instance at the following URL >> > which people are welcome to play with:- >> > >> > https://mattermost.popey.com/ubuntu/ >> > >> > No guarantees it will stay up, as we're just evaluating it, but feel >> > free to join and have a poke around or make a channel for your >> > team/group. >> > >> > Cheers, >> >> >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list >> Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome >> >> >> >> -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
