GNU/Linux works better because of permanent community survey and discussion. It's not possible with closed source tools.
El 27/02/16 a les 11:44, Alfredo Hernández ha escrit: > Some people choose GNU/Linux because it works better, simple as that. > The purpose and inception of Ubuntu GNOME was not to offer a free > desktop, but a desktop that works better than the alternatives. > > On 27 Feb 2016 11:30 am, "Narcis Garcia" <informat...@actiu.net > <mailto:informat...@actiu.net>> wrote: > > Tim, you are discussing basic principles that concern Ubuntu and Gnome > projects too. > > IT freedom is very important for people: to control and decide what your > devices do with your data and communications. Privative software > (gratuitous too) acts the same way as privative services (gratuitous > too); then I want to put at same level the choose of freedom of software > and freedom of services. > > Why do many people choose GIMP instead of Adobe? > Why do many people choose HTML instead of Flash? > Why do many people choose mailing lists instead of hosted forums? > > Why do we choose Ubuntu and Gnome instead of Windows (embedded too)? > > > El 27/02/16 a les 10:39, Tim ha escrit: > > > > > > On 27/02/16 20:19, Narcis Garcia wrote: > >> People is discussing two completely different focuses: > >> Freedom and Gratuity. > >> > >> These kind of services (they are services, not software products) > >> gratuity is ever incompatible with freedom (considering personal > data as > >> a monetary value to trade with). > > Yes, I am not a fan of further fragmenting the comms channels, but > people ask for these things, and I guess if it takes off, it could > be better. > >> > >> I prefer GNU/Linux (including Ubuntu and Gnome) than Windows or MacOS > >> because of freedom matter, including better control over my > contacts, my > >> documents and logs, my localization, preferences, activities, etc. > > Freedom comes at a cost, GPL is like a cancer, while it really got > the whole open source movement going, these days it seems to cause > more harm > > than good. I predict it will be obsolete in 10 years. I think in > the long term the more permissive BSD/MIT licenses will win out, but > that is > > just my opinion. > >> > >> Services with AGPL licenses concern this matter too. > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_under_the_GNU_AGPL > > It should be pretty clear by now that open standard services are a > non-starter look what happened to XMPP, look at what github has done > > proprietry extensions. > > > > Then consider the AGPL is incompatible with GPL, GPLv3 is a mess > and incompatible with GPLv2. Its a minefield out there, The freedom > that GNU > > promotes is costing more than the actual freedom gained. > >> > >> > >> > >> El 27/02/16 a les 06:18, Khurshid Alam ha escrit: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Slack is quite efficient I think. You can have moderated > channels and > >>> public channels (still requires a slack id though). It is always > better > >>> to go with something that have some sort of notification systems for > >>> mobile and desktops. Free service includes browsing 10k most recent > >>> messages (rest are archived). Shouldn't that be enough? > >>> > >>> Btw, is there a telegram group for Ubuntu-Gnome? I couldn't find > it. May > >>> I also join? > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> > >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Leo Francisco > <li...@boywithwings.co.uk <mailto:li...@boywithwings.co.uk> > >>> <mailto:li...@boywithwings.co.uk > <mailto:li...@boywithwings.co.uk>>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thanks for that Popey. Will have a play with Mattermost when > I get a > >>> chance. > >>> > >>> We should have a look at this, even if it's just for fun. > >>> > >>> Leo > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 19/02/16 13:32, Alan Pope wrote: > >>> > On 19 February 2016 at 13:14, Leo Francisco > <li...@boywithwings.co.uk <mailto:li...@boywithwings.co.uk> > <mailto:li...@boywithwings.co.uk <mailto:li...@boywithwings.co.uk>>> > wrote: > >>> >> There are open source alternatives that may be worth > exploring > >>> >> MatterMost and RocketChat. There's so much hype around > Slack atm, not > >>> >> sure what the long term viability of it is. It's > basically fancy modern > >>> >> proprietary IRC. > >>> >> > >>> >> I would always be more enthused by an open source > solution for the usual > >>> >> reasons. > >>> >> > >>> > On the community team we've been evaluating some of these > new / > >>> > fashionable / interesting methods of communication. Slack > is already > >>> > available at the following URL, but requires an @ubuntu or > @canonical > >>> > email address I believe. It might be possible to be > invited to join if > >>> > you don't have one of those though, they're just the > pre-configured > >>> > domains I believe. > >>> > > >>> > http://ubuntu.slack.com/ > >>> > > >>> > We've also been looking at Mattermost, which is a free > software tool > >>> > very much like Slack. I spun up a test instance at the > following URL > >>> > which people are welcome to play with:- > >>> > > >>> > https://mattermost.popey.com/ubuntu/ > >>> > > >>> > No guarantees it will stay up, as we're just evaluating > it, but feel > >>> > free to join and have a poke around or make a channel for your > >>> > team/group. > >>> > > >>> > Cheers, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > >>> Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com > <mailto:Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com> > <mailto:Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com > <mailto:Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com>> > >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list > Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome > -- Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list Ubuntu-GNOME@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome
