Re: Governance New Thread!

2010-03-07 Thread Andrew Swinn
On 8/03/2010 6:13 PM, Melissa Draper wrote: > On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 17:45 +1100, Norm, VK3XCI wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> I've had a fair bit to do with "committees" over a vast range of >> involvements, >> from Radio Clubs to rural Progress Associations and Distance Education parent >> Committee

Re: Governance New Thread!

2010-03-07 Thread Melissa Draper
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 17:45 +1100, Norm, VK3XCI wrote: > Folks, > > I've had a fair bit to do with "committees" over a vast range of > involvements, > from Radio Clubs to rural Progress Associations and Distance Education parent > Committees. All have a couple of things in common. Dissent (is t

Re: Governance New Thread!

2010-03-07 Thread AndrewG
Great input Norm. Yes legal interests need to be taken into account. Forming (and running) non-profit organisations takes a lot of work. We need to be clear on our objectives, on what can and cannot be achieved. Yes you always get descent when you bring a group of people together (the nature of th

Re: Meeting

2010-03-07 Thread benchen70
Hi Melissa, Just wondering if this means that the meeting is happening at 9 PM Monday 15 January? currently it has the highest vote. Has the poll closed yet? Thank you very much. Regards, Benjamin Chen On Mar 7, 5:47 pm, Melissa Draper wrote: > To figure when the best time for a meeting woul

Governance New Thread!

2010-03-07 Thread Norm, VK3XCI
Folks, I've had a fair bit to do with "committees" over a vast range of involvements, from Radio Clubs to rural Progress Associations and Distance Education parent Committees. All have a couple of things in common. Dissent (is that the word you were looking for Scott?) and egos. From an almost

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Matthew Rossi
On 8 March 2010 16:19, Andrew Gaydon wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Matthew Rossi wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> On 8 March 2010 15:40, AndrewG wrote: >> >>> Nice Summary Matthew. >>> >>> >>> On the State representative model, (of which you know that I am in >>> favour of) >

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Scott Evans
Hi Michael... Your input is valuable because from what you see currently (most likely) without any prior knowledge of any disagreements (wrong word but it all that I could think of!) between person A to person B. This is the information needed, because for those that have been involved with ubuntu

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Michael
Hi. I'm only new here but have been reading with interest the happenings of the last few days. Here is what this situation looks like to a newcomer. With all due respect the Australian Loco has let things slide and is now scrambling to stay afloat. From my readings if it wasn't for Mellisa the Loc

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Andre Mangan
On 8 March 2010 15:01, Matthew Rossi wrote: > Hello, > > I agree with what Scott is saying. It would be a good idea to be flagging > those contributing to this thread as those with a vested interest in the > LoCo, and that we need to work out overall what our LoCo is trying to > achieve. > > Goi

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Dale
Hi all, Ubuntu AU does need some revamping, as things stand there is not a lot happening the community as it has gone stale and no one seemed to have the interest in doing anything under the current state of Ubuntu AU. The big problem that is going to be faced is getting the interest of people to

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Matthew Rossi
Hello, I agree with what Scott is saying. It would be a good idea to be flagging those contributing to this thread as those with a vested interest in the LoCo, and that we need to work out overall what our LoCo is trying to achieve. Going back to the talk about the Governance structure, we have

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Scott Evans
I think that those that are showing any interest in this discussion should be automatically flagged as having a vested interest in the future of ubuntu-au loco. We can go around in circles forever and a day saying that person X isn't right or person Y has got it all wrong... @Melissa you have don

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread AndrewG
Andrew Swinn, Now we are getting somewhere. Lets have the 'Call to arms'. Lets get a definite date & time for the IRC meeting that Melissa has proposed. Let's set an agenda. Let's get an article on the ubuntu.org.au Website & wiki, to generate some publicity. Andrew G. On Ma

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Andrew Swinn
On 8/03/2010 1:25 PM, AndrewG wrote: > > On Mar 8, 12:05 pm, Paul Gear wrote: > >> Melissa Draper wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 11:25 +1100, Andrew Swinn wrote: >>> >> Just a quick 2 cents worth on the whole committee thing. >> I would a

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Matthew Rossi
On 8 March 2010 13:05, Paul Gear wrote: > Melissa Draper wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 11:25 +1100, Andrew Swinn wrote: > > > Just a quick 2 cents worth on the whole committee thing. > > I would agree that having an overall president plus a representive from > each state would be the way to

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread AndrewG
On Mar 8, 12:05 pm, Paul Gear wrote: > Melissa Draper wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 11:25 +1100, Andrew Swinn wrote: > > >> Just a quick 2 cents worth on the whole committee thing. > > >> I would agree that having an overall president plus a representive from > >> each state would be the way

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread AndrewG
Melissa, On Mar 8, 11:44 am, Melissa Draper wrote: > On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 11:25 +1100, Andrew Swinn wrote: > > Just a quick 2 cents worth on the whole committee thing. > > > I would agree that having an overall president plus a representive from > > each state would be the way to go. > > Linux A

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Paul Gear
Melissa Draper wrote: > On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 11:25 +1100, Andrew Swinn wrote: > >> Just a quick 2 cents worth on the whole committee thing. >> >> I would agree that having an overall president plus a representive from >> each state would be the way to go. >> > > Linux Australia has gone t

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Matthew Rossi
Hello everyone. On 8 March 2010 10:08, benchen70 wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > Thank you for your ideas, I think they are wonderful. > > Just out of curiosity, I am just wondering about the state > requirements of the ordinary committee members. Is there any > particular reason for 2 preferentially f

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Melissa Draper
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 11:25 +1100, Andrew Swinn wrote: > Just a quick 2 cents worth on the whole committee thing. > > I would agree that having an overall president plus a representive from > each state would be the way to go. Linux Australia has gone through this discussion regularly over the y

Re: elections

2010-03-07 Thread Melissa Draper
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 09:27 +1100, peter baker wrote: > melissa said > > While elections are typically how we used to do this back in > 2006 when > we (both the team and ubuntu in general) were much smaller, > it's > generally now expected that a meritocrati

Re: Can this 3 mobile be installed on Ubuntu 9.10

2010-03-07 Thread benchen70
Hi Narayan, Also, further to my last post, what kind of computer are you installing on? Linux with what kind of hardware? Thank you very much. Regards Benjamin Chen benchen70 On Mar 8, 9:16 am, benchen70 wrote: > Hi Narayan, > > Your post does not make clear what you need. I am a Three custome

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Andrew Swinn
Just a quick 2 cents worth on the whole committee thing. I would agree that having an overall president plus a representive from each state would be the way to go. I would also suggest that these state positions could be dual roles with the other needs, ie as well as representing their state/te

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread AndrewG
Matt & Benjamin, IMHO. I would propose that the committee be a representative one, being 'one' State leader from each state. Why, because most implementation of Goals of Ubuntu-au will be enacted on at a local level. Ie. Exhibition stalls, Install fests, cd distribution etc. A 'State

Launchpad Membership (was Reapproval time)

2010-03-07 Thread David Symons
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Melissa Draper wrote: > On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 12:55 +1100, Ferdinand Lehnard wrote: >> >> After that I didn't had a look on the web page for a longer time, just >> recently I was coming back and had seen some improvement. The >> membership application seems still to

Re: Dumb question

2010-03-07 Thread AndrewG
HI Steve, 'Loco' stands for Local community. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loco_team Cheers. On Mar 8, 9:10 am, "Steve Pagratis" wrote: > what is a LoCo ? > > steve > > -Original Message- > From: ubuntu-au-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com > > [mailto:ubuntu-au-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Beha

Re: Can this 3 mobile be installed on Ubuntu 9.10

2010-03-07 Thread benchen70
Hi Narayan, Your post does not make clear what you need. I am a Three customer, what exactly do you need? Which mobile are you talking about? Model? Brand? Are you intending to have some special software to go with it, eg, Nokia has the Nokia PC Suite. Or is it the Huawei 3 Mobile internet dongle

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread benchen70
Hi Matthew, Thank you for your ideas, I think they are wonderful. Just out of curiosity, I am just wondering about the state requirements of the ordinary committee members. Is there any particular reason for 2 preferentially from states outside Victoria, Queensland and NSW? Also with the electio

Dumb question

2010-03-07 Thread Steve Pagratis
what is a LoCo ? steve -Original Message- From: ubuntu-au-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-au-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of ubuntu-au-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Monday, 8 March 2010 9:31 To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: ubuntu-au Digest, Vol 49, Issue 8 Send

Re: elections

2010-03-07 Thread AndrewG
Yes there needs to be a transparent process / structure involved. Currently there is none of this. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/WhiteBoard/BrainStorm https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Roadmaps/Lucid/AustralianTeam Andrew G. On Mar 8, 8:27 am, peter baker wrote: > melissa said > > While electio

Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread AndrewG
Hi Mathew, Thanks for your thoughts as they are very detailed. Whilst I agree with your sentiment there are a lot of practicalities in setting up & maintaining such a structure. Some time back I started a Wiki page. I would suggest that everybody have a read. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Aus

elections

2010-03-07 Thread peter baker
melissa said While elections are typically how we used to do this back in 2006 when > we (both the team and ubuntu in general) were much smaller, it's > generally now expected that a meritocratic process be followed -- put a > motion to the team participants that the role be passed to the > partic

Can this 3 mobile be installed on Ubuntu 9.10

2010-03-07 Thread Narayan Murthy
Yes Subject line makes it pretty clear what I am looking for , please advise. Thank You. Cheers, Narayan -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au

Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

2010-03-07 Thread Matthew Rossi
Hello, In light of the recent discussions regarding the future of our LoCo, I thought that I would pitch in my own idea for how we can govern the LoCo. Over the last few years, it has become obvious that the unstructured way that our LoCo operates isn't working too well. From the surface, it does