Andrew Swinn, Now we are getting somewhere.
Lets have the 'Call to arms'. Lets get a definite date & time for the IRC meeting that Melissa has proposed. Let's set an agenda. Let's get an article on the ubuntu.org.au Website & wiki, to generate some publicity. Andrew G. On Mar 8, 12:58 pm, Andrew Swinn <and...@swinn.id.au> wrote: > On 8/03/2010 1:25 PM, AndrewG wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 12:05 pm, Paul Gear<p...@libertysys.com.au> wrote: > > >> Melissa Draper wrote: > > >>> On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 11:25 +1100, Andrew Swinn wrote: > > >>>> Just a quick 2 cents worth on the whole committee thing. > > >>>> I would agree that having an overall president plus a representive from > >>>> each state would be the way to go. > > >>> Linux Australia has gone through this discussion regularly over the > >>> years. The conclusion has always been that it's not feasible. Why? > > >>> Because you have to find, for each state (and territory), someone > >>> actually capable and willing to do the role. In a country like > >>> Australia, that means finding someone from NSW, Vic, QLD, WA, SA, Tas, > >>> ACT. > > >>> ... > > >>>> So firstly I think we should organise the first thing, getting a > >>>> president/leader/whatever put in place plus state reps, then letting > >>>> those elected/appointed people work on organising the rest. > > >>>> One of the big issues with community groups is getting caught up in the > >>>> politics of it all. Those age old requirements for > >>>> president/treasurer/minutes/commitees out the wazoo all scare new people > >>>> away. People are extroadinarily time limited today so keeping it short > >>>> and simple is what should be focused on. > > >>> Once you have a committee you /are/ caught up in the politics. A > >>> committee is political no matter which way you spin it and offices do > >>> have requirements. > > >> I have to agree with Melissa on this one. The position(s) need(s) to be > >> given to the person(s) actually able to do the job. Perhaps if people > >> are looking for a contact person for each state, we need to have an > >> out-of-band/unofficial/less-official role which is more along the lines > >> of what people are looking for with the election-style deal. > > >> I personally couldn't be bothered jumping through the hoops (not to > >> mention what seems to me to be a ridiculous amount of self-promotion) > >> required to be on the LoCo leadership - i have enough to do between > >> switching between two jobs and keeping a number of different clients > >> above water. However, i would be happy to be a contact for people to > >> talk to about Ubuntu, and i would be happy to organise meetups like > >> we've had recently here in Brisbane. > > >> Paul > > >> paul.vcf > >> < 1KViewDownload > > >> -- > >> ubuntu-au mailing list > >> ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.comhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > > I also agree that the right people need to be given the job(s), but > > who decides what is given to whom currently!!! > > > Until the ubuntu-au membership comes up with an open transparent > > structure nothing will change. > > > The status-quo will remain until this is achieved. > > > Andrew G. (Brisbane) > > Trying to avoid multiple reply threads, posting response to last two > emails here. > > It seems there are two problems. > > 1. There is possibly not enough people available to fulfil all the > positions proposed. > > 2. There are people that want to act in a nature to represent a > state/territory/entire community they are in but they feel they do not > have the opportunity to do so. > > Therefore to deal with these two potential issues we should... > > 1. Ask for nominations of interest from people who would like to be the > contact point for their state and to also . I don't believe there is any > requirement for each and every state to be involved. There is a heavier > representation from the eastern states. If there turns out to be only > interest in a handful of states/territories then so be it. If someone > comes along later that wants to represent a missing one, then good on > ya, welcome aboard! > > 2. If number 1 fails to surface any peoplee then the status quo will remain. > > I think it is worth a sort of official 'call to arms' to see who comes > out of the woodwork. There are plenty of people floating around the > community, just a question of whether they would like to get involved more. > > If we do not ask it will not happen. > > Andrew > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.comhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
