On 8 March 2010 15:01, Matthew Rossi <m...@pcpodcast.org> wrote: > Hello, > > I agree with what Scott is saying. It would be a good idea to be flagging > those contributing to this thread as those with a vested interest in the > LoCo, and that we need to work out overall what our LoCo is trying to > achieve. > > Going back to the talk about the Governance structure, we have about three > different systems going around. > > We have the present system, which isn't working too well. I don't need to > repeat why because it has already been covered. > > We have my system, which would struggle to organise events and liaise with > local LUGs in states that do not have representation on the committee. > There are also issues regarding election processes and the idea of newer > members attaining committee spots being out of reach that need to be looked > at. > > We have the state rep system. It works well if there are active reps from > each state within the LoCo. Elections would never work for that model as > the numbers of people in each state are too small, so how do we select reps? > And how do we encourage newer members to get involved as a state rep? If > the process isn't rigid and doesn't allow for regular change, then it > becomes too hard for newer members. There is also a chance that we can't > get state reps for various states, which means that liaising with LUGs and > organising events there would become too difficult. > > So, keeping that in mind, let me pose this question, which way do we go? > We need to have a rigid and transparent structure of governance because it > is obvious that without one we as a LoCo are going to struggle to get things > done. > -- > Regards, > Matthew Rossi > m...@pcpodcast.org > > Tel: +1 253 987 6413 > Mob: +61 488 122 990 > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > >
Perhaps State representation is not necessary where Time Zone representation would suffice. Australia has a land mass of about 7.7 million square kilometers with three time zones - four actually when you consider the areas that follow or do not follow daylight saving. Looking at Melissa's marvelous time election chart, I can see that the same mistake is being repeated where the members from the eastern states sway the balance of the votes towards a particular meeting time. When the eastern states meet at 9 p.m. it is 6 p.m. in Perth. Vice versa the picture becomes even more unpalatable. Personally I would prefer meetings to be held on a weekend day in daylight hours. Living in rural NSW I am unable to attend meetings at LUGs nor Release Gatherings. Currently, meetings are conducted via IRC. Is that really the best that 21st century technology can provide? I am a member of a mutual interest club which consists of volunteers. That there are always the regular few that carry the load is a universal problem. Meetings are organised via telephone link-up which costs less than $20 and participants are billed for a local call. Yes, there is a constitution and job description and I agree with Matthew Rossi about the need for a governance structure. Ubuntu is free software but if we want to promote it we have to be prepared to pay. Cheers, Andre
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