i was just curious what the window manager of choice is on this list :) ..
i'm a die hard windowmaker fan ... but i just installed enlightenment and
it's not that bad .. a bit resource intensive though .. same for GNOME
from my experiences. i think blackbox is next on my list. haven't used
that
windowmaker ;)
nicki
On Thu, 17 May 2001, coldfire wrote:
> i was just curious what the window manager of choice is on this list :) ..
> i'm a die hard windowmaker fan ... but i just installed enlightenment and
> it's not that bad .. a bit resource intensive though .. same for GNOME
> from my
coldfire wrote:
> i was just curious what the window manager of choice is on this list :) ..
> i'm a die hard windowmaker fan ... but i just installed enlightenment and
> it's not that bad .. a bit resource intensive though .. same for GNOME
> from my experiences. i think blackbox is next on my
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 04:48:30AM -0400, coldfire wrote:
> i was just curious what the window manager of choice is on this list :) ..
> i'm a die hard windowmaker fan ... but i just installed enlightenment and
> it's not that bad .. a bit resource intensive though .. same for GNOME
> from my expe
Heya --
Quoth Coldfire:
> i was just curious what the window manager of choice is on this
> list :) .. i'm a die hard windowmaker fan...
I'm a big fan of KDE. It's all about kpanel. [grin] The rest of
the utilites are nice, but that panel just makes for the easiest
navigation.
Cheers,
R
Wow-
On the list 12 hours and a ton of email. Even a good flame war from
someone who
must be having trouble logging in today. After reading the rules it said
"guys" are
welcome.
I wanted to say hello and confess my love for Linux, yet working as a asp
developer
on a MS based web system. I
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 09:05:14AM -0400, Scott wrote:
> So, with that in mind, if guys are not allowed, please tell me know and I
> will leave
> peacefully. Otherwise, my brief introduction and hope to enjoy the
> conversation.
Hi Scott,
Yes men are 'allowed' - the lists are open subscriptio
I work for an MS all the time shop. Win 2K Server, SQL 2000 Server,
etc. Our clients
all have MS set-up at their site. I am doing a web based application in
all asp and just
got "caught" using PHP. I was redirecting traffic to a Linux server I have
running Apache
and PHP and would do some p
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Scott wrote:
> I work for an MS all the time shop. Win 2K Server, SQL 2000 Server,
> etc. Our clients all have MS set-up at their site. I am doing a web
> based application in all asp and just got "caught" using PHP. I was
> redirecting traffic to a Linux server I have ru
On Thu, 17 May 2001 14:40:54 +0100 (BST) James Sutherland
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you tried running Apache+PHP on a Win2k box? Is the
> constraint that you must be using Win2k, or that you
> must be "all-MS"?? If the former, running Apache+PHP on
> Win2k would be a nice non-propriet
On Thursday 17 May 2001 04:48 am, you wrote:
> i was just curious what the window manager of choice is on this list :) ..
===Currently KDEbut I am looking at the other ones available.
Windowmaker has a nice look/feel, but I am needing to work on how to get
around in it...(newbie powers, Ac
At 02:40 PM 5/17/2001 +0100, James Sutherland wrote:
>Have you tried running Apache+PHP on a Win2k box? Is the constraint that
>you must be using Win2k, or that you must be "all-MS"?? If the former,
>running Apache+PHP on Win2k would be a nice non-proprietary solution.
I have run the cgi version
>On Thursday 17 May 2001 04:48 am, you wrote:
> > i was just curious what the window manager of choice is on this list :) ..
Depends on the distribution. I am just trying SUSE for the first time and they
seem to favor KDE, as does the Mandrake versions I have tried. Red Hat seems
to favor Gnom
On Thursday 17 May 2001 04:48 am, coldfire wrote:
> i was just curious what the window manager of choice is on this list :) ..
Hi,
On a system with decent resources, definitely KDE 2.1.1. Very nice, lots of
features and excellent apps, and yet I can easily make it get out of my way.
On anythi
I prefer KDE 2.1.1 also. Very agreeable interface with many applications
available.
-Mary
Caitlyn Martin wrote:
> On Thursday 17 May 2001 04:48 am, coldfire wrote:
> > i was just curious what the window manager of choice is on this list :) ..
>
> Hi,
>
> On a system with decent resources, def
On Thursday 17 May 2001 10:58 am, Scott wrote:
> Red Hat seems to favor Gnome.
Yes, but they give you the choice of KDE or Gnome at install. Youcan install
both, but choose either as your default. I chose KDE and had no
I guess Solaris is switching to Gnome this year
> as well. I feel co
Hi, there,
OK, on every distribution I've run with a 2.2 or 2.0 kernel, if the distro
didn't autodetect my zip drive, it was pretty straightforward to add it. I'd
add the line
alias block-major-8 ppa
to my /etc/conf.modules file, add a /mnt/zip directory, add /dev/sda4 to my
/etc/fstab file
At 11:03 AM 5/17/2001 -0400, Caitlyn Martin wrote:
>Yes, but they give you the choice of KDE or Gnome at install. You can
>install both, but choose either as your default. I chose KDE and had no
>problems, other than an overwhelming need to rearrange their menus. Mandrake
>is much better at sub
> Well... Red Hat 7.1 didn't setup my zip drive for me the way Mandrake did
> recently, so I added the above alias line to my /etc/modules.conf file (yep,
> I was aware of that change) and followed the steps above and... the system
> tells me that /dev/sda4 is not a recognized device. ppa is l
> > i was just curious what the window manager of choice is on this list :) ..
I come from a unix background, which made me so familiar with fvwm(2) and the
solaris-desktop that it took me a while to get used to anything else.
Gnome seemed to be a bit too heavy for my first system, so I started
Ditto windowmaker here.
Originally used because we were on a low-end hardware box and windowmaker
was the most functional with a decently low resource usage. Now both my
husband and I still use windowmaker because we can't find anything that we
like better. :o)
My husband also uses gnome, but I
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Quoth Coldfire:
> > i was just curious what the window manager of
> choice is on this
> > list :) .. i'm a die hard windowmaker fan...
I'm currently addicted to Gnome - only because on my
possessed computer only Gnome works with my
motherboard's built in soun
> Yes, but they give you the choice of KDE or Gnome at install. You can
> install both, but choose either as your default. I chose KDE and had no
> problems, other than an overwhelming need to rearrange their menus. Mandrake
> is much better at subdividing the menus and making it so you can
I know this isn't a linux question, but this is one of the few places I
feel safe asking those silly questions :o)
I installed Solaris (8, the x86 version) on a box at work. I have unix
experience and loads of linux experience, but none specifically with
administering a Solaris box. I am having a
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:40:55PM +1200, Jamie Walker wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 11:26:36PM -0400, David Merrill wrote:
>
> > When I ssh into this box, it sometimes takes 20-30 seconds for the
> > login prompt to come up. Does anyone know why it would take this long
> > to display a login
Scott wrote:
> At 02:40 PM 5/17/2001 +0100, James Sutherland wrote:
>
>> Have you tried running Apache+PHP on a Win2k box? Is the constraint that
>> you must be using Win2k, or that you must be "all-MS"?? If the former,
>> running Apache+PHP on Win2k would be a nice non-proprietary solution.
>
> > Quoth Coldfire: > > i was just curious what the window manager of >
> choice is on this > > list :) .. i'm a die hard windowmaker fan...
>
>
> I'm currently addicted to Gnome - only because on my possessed
> computer only Gnome works with my motherboard's built in sound card.
> I like to l
Now, my question would be, I know I can run select statements on the data,
the problem
is the sql guys here write a ton of stored procedures and I need to call
them instead to
get my info. The asp code is very ugly. Has anyone run into this with
PHP? I can send
asp examples if that helps.
Hrm, I've never worked with DHCP clients on Solaris, but I do struggle with networking
on solaris 7 regularly.
First I would check the thruput of your network card(s). There is a bug where, if
your card is set to auto-negotiate it will tend to flake, so we hard set all our nic
cards, and corr
Nicole-
My experience with Solaris is on the Sparc machine, I assume PC is the same,
but you have to choose No DNS during install, then add it after the machine
is up. Thinking..there is a file called..thinking again.. You
know what,
let me check my Solaris book at home and I will
ok, would anyone out there like to tackle the task of explaining exactly what the
difference is? I am baffled by why gnome/kde does, vs what sawmill/enlightenment/kwm
do, how they interact, which ones are which...is windowmaker a window manager or
desktop? I forget...
I know window managers c
Why not install pyapache as a DSO in your apache server, and use a python
script to run your stored procs.
-Tricia
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Scott wrote:
|Now, my question would be, I know I can run select statements on the data,
|the problem
|is the sql guys here write a ton of stored procedures a
> On Thu, 17 May 2001, Scott wrote:
>
> |Now, my question would be, I know I can run select statements on the data,
> |the problem
> |is the sql guys here write a ton of stored procedures and I need to call
> |them instead to
> |get my info. The asp code is very ugly. Has anyone run into this
To add to that (this is a bit of a stretch, I know), can anyone recommend a
good resource for xwindows?? (other than the howto). I've never gotten much
into the guts of it; always using Xconfigurator. I think someone in this
thread mentioned an "if it ain't broke, don't fuzz with it" philosophy.
Hi!
I was using Mandrake 7.2 for Internet Connection on my home PC's. They are
sharing
a modem there since I can not get DSL or cable yet. I had to convert the
machine to
Win 2K for work reasons and I am using the Internet Connection Sharing
built into Win
2K and in a word--it sucks. I want
I am interested in vmware and would love to hear from others who have
used this. I just emailed them in hopes of getting an academic discount.
On the other hand Im all for ending the clutter of two boxes on my desk
and giving one to someone who needs one and using Wine for the major
apps I run li
never can resist an opportunity to plug blackbox :) that's my pick.
marisa
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 04:48:30AM -0400, rolick571 sed:
> i was just curious what the window manager of choice is on this list :) ..
> i'm a die hard windowmaker fan ... but i just installed enlightenment and
> it's not
Damn :)
Tis a pretty long rant, hope i don't get everyone snoring here.
well, in the beginning there was X. X by itself basically provides a way
for a server to communicate with clients. The clients tell the server
"draw a pixel here" and the server handles actually displaying that pixel
on-scr
hey all, no questions here, just thought I'd mention that last week I took a redhat
7.1 box, compiled a 2.4 kernel, and installed LVM from www.sistina.com, with the help
of my manager. LVM rocks!!! anyone who has used AIX's logical volume management to
grow file systems on the fly will apprec
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO.html is what I used to
setup connection sharing. And if I can do it, ANYONE can do it =D
- Kath
- Original Message -
From: "Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 1:53 PM
Subject: [techtalk] Inter
Hello Rose,
Now, I'm a bit biased, but when I want to use Windows applications, I use
Win4Lin. It's faster than VMWare, and it's cheaper than VMWare ($89 for a
CD set, $59 for download). Though the current version doesn't allow
Windows Networking, there's a new version comming out soon that will
At 5/17/01 11:07 AM , Daniel Manrique wrote:
>Tis a pretty long rant, hope i don't get everyone snoring here.
>[huge snip]
>*phew* hope this helped clear things up :)
Actually, yes. That was very helpful and enlightening, and didn't make me
want to snore at all. Thank you!
I second that =)
-Brian
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kai MacTane
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [techtalk] desktops and window managers?
>
>
> At 5/17/01 11:07 AM , Daniel Manrique
Many thanks to Daniel who patiently answered more questions in this thread, forwarding
on for posterity.
Original Message
Subject: Re: [techtalk] desktops and window managers?
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:44:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: Daniel Manrique <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTE
Did you check the nsswitch.conf file to make sure DNS is listed for name
resolution? That one always gets me on Sol7-intel. Also, I think you might
have to reboot for it to be re-read, at least, again, on 7 you do.
Also, try putting another line in /etc/hosts and see if it will use that,
just t
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:37:57AM -0500 or thereabouts, Daniel Manrique wrote:
> Do keep in mind that neither GNOME nor KDE are window managers. One could
> think of them as "desktop environments", a part of which is a window
> manager.
I knew someoone would brhing this up :)
[GNOME window mana
Many thanks Dan! I am more awake after reading that! Bravo!
At 01:07 PM 5/17/2001 -0500, Daniel Manrique wrote:
>Damn :)
>
>Tis a pretty long rant, hope i don't get everyone snoring here.
>
>well, in the beginning there was X. X by itself basically provides a way
>for a server to communicate w
> Also, I think you might
> have to reboot for it to be re-read, at least, again, on 7 you do.
I don't think this is the case. I just tried it with 8 and all I did was edit the
file, didn't even restart any daemons. I don't have a 7 box to play with, but I'm
pretty sure it's the same. in fac
I've used vmware for about 6 months and many I work with use it as well.
It really does rock if you *must* use windows apps. The only warning is
be sure to have plenty of memory in the box since vmware runs a virual
machine it needs as much memory as you normally would need for just a
windows b
well, now that we're onto web development tools, hehe .. i think it was on
this list that i found bluefish, and now it's all i use hehe. i don't
feel like i'm 'cheating' yet .. i just use it mainly for the color coding
of the html code and for hex numbers for all the colors. however, does
anyone
> > > Quoth Coldfire: > > i was just curious what the window manager of >
> > choice is on this > > list :) .. i'm a die hard windowmaker fan...
> >
> >
> > I'm currently addicted to Gnome - only because on my possessed
> > computer only Gnome works with my motherboard's built in sound card.
>
> BTW, hello to the list - It's nice to meet you all.
> I'm an MCSE in NT 4 but I prefer Linux not only for
> the cost (I downloaded Mandrake 8) but also because of
> the security, honesty, and all the quality programs
> and Linux boots up really fast with ReiserFS.
which i'd like to recommend t
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:55:01AM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts,
Daniel Manrique thought:
> > I went into Preferences->Information->SCSI in KDE2 and found this:
> >
> > Attached devices:
> > Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
> > Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 100 Rev: D.
I know in linux the change is immediate (at least with your resolv.conf),
I don't see why in Solaris it would be different. The nsswitch bit might
not be quite as dynamic but I've always been able to change nameservers on
the fly.
At 16:54 on May 17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] combined all the right...:
AHH good idea. I knew there was something else in /etc that I just
couldn't think of that handled resolution.
I know the card is working, I can ping things by IP just not by their name
(no lookups happen). I can even ping my DNS'. I will try the /etc/hosts to
make sure it can resolve that way.
-
Scott wrote:
> I am thinking of doing some of the work in Java. Since my experience
> with Java is limited,
> has anyone else used Java heavily for web based applications?
Not 'heavily' yet, just for one project and that a standalone. But
it's winning me over.
Jenn V.
--
"Do you ever
> > Hi!
> >
> > I was using Mandrake 7.2 for Internet Connection on my home PC's. They
> are
> > sharing
> > a modem there since I can not get DSL or cable yet. I had to convert the
> > machine to
> > Win 2K for work reasons and I am using the Internet Connection Sharing
> > built into Win
> > 2
>
> I don't think this is the case. I just tried it with 8 and all I did was
edit the file, didn't even restart any daemons. I don't have a 7 box to
play with, but I'm pretty sure it's the same. in fact, I'm quite sure the
change is immediate...anyone have a play box to confim with?
>
You prob
Solaris has a utility called /usr/sbin/dhcpconfig. I've never used it, but
it may be worth trying out.
Also, when doing ANY Solaris-related stuff, I strongly recommend
bookmarking the sunmanagers mailing list search page:
http://www.latech.edu/sunman-search.html
This is an excellent list. Just
So this was sort of the problem (the nsswitch.conf).
When I installed, I swear I selected DNS. I entered the DNS servers. All
was good. BUT the installer copied the DEFAULT /etc/nsswitch.conf over
from /etc/nsswitch.files instead of the /etc/nsswitch.dns (which uses name
resolution instead of *no
I seem to remember it was the nsswitch that caused me all the problems and
made me reboot. Then again, the first time I set up a Solaris intel box, I
rebooted, reinstalled, and just made a mess of things more than once :)
mc
- Original Message -
From: "Nicole Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTE
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Rose wrote:
> I am interested in vmware and would love to hear from others who have
> used this. I just emailed them in hopes of getting an academic discount.
>
> On the other hand Im all for ending the clutter of two boxes on my desk
> and giving one to someone who needs one
Does it say anything in the messages files? (on Solaris it's
/var/adm/messages).
Jen
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Nicole Zimmerman wrote:
>
> I know in linux the change is immediate (at least with your resolv.conf),
> I don't see why in Solaris it would be different. The nsswitch bit might
> not be q
There is an NT version of Apache as well as MySQL and PHP. If your people
are absolutely married to MS you might look into installing and playing
with those. The SQL you have should port to MySQL (I read the man pages
recently and think that was one). If nothing else, you will learn how to
se
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 05:33:56PM -0400, coldfire wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I was using Mandrake 7.2 for Internet Connection on my home PC's. They
> > are
> > > sharing
> > > a modem there since I can not get DSL or cable yet. I had to convert the
> > > machine to
> > > Win 2K for work reaso
I tried following the HOWTO verbatim on my Ultra Sparc running Mandrake
Corporate Server and no luck. I was using my lap top running Win 2k to test
it. The lap top was not able to get out on the net. I will play with it some
more and let you know.
At 07:42 PM 5/17/2001 -0400, you wrote:
That
On 17 May, Nicole Zimmerman wrote:
> I know this isn't a linux question, but this is one of the few places I
> feel safe asking those silly questions :o)
>
> I installed Solaris (8, the x86 version) on a box at work. I have unix
> experience and loads of linux experience, but none specifically wi
well, i particularly enjoy networking stuff ... so if you need any help,
feel free to post and i'd love to help out as i'm sure others would too :)
quick question .. are you using ipfwadm, ipchains, or iptables?
abe
On Thu, 17 May 2001, Scott wrote:
> I tried following the HOWTO verbatim on my
Thanks for the offer, getting off the Win 2K box for ICS has become my
weekend project. It is just not reliable. I was yelling at my ISP for
bad performance, they told me to reboot the Win 2K box and the speed was
back for a whopping 12 hours. So, needless to say I want to get back over
the usi
From: coldfire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> well, i particularly enjoy networking stuff ... so if you need any help,
> feel free to post and i'd love to help out as i'm sure others would too :)
> quick question .. are you using ipfwadm, ipchains, or iptables?
... and speaking of internet stuff, I just s
On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 10:11:36PM -0500, Julie wrote:
> From: coldfire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > well, i particularly enjoy networking stuff ... so if you need any help,
> > feel free to post and i'd love to help out as i'm sure others would too :)
> > quick question .. are you using ipfwadm, ipcha
On Thu, 17 May 2001, coldfire wrote:
> i was just curious what the window manager of choice is on this list :) ..
> i'm a die hard windowmaker fan ... but i just installed enlightenment and
> it's not that bad .. a bit resource intensive though .. same for GNOME
> from my experiences. i think
www.zonelabs.com
They do one of the better free ones.
-.-. --.-
Mark Foster - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IT Manager, Intermech Ltd
+64-21-499-368 / +64-9-525-2220
http://www.intermech.co.nz
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From: "David Merrill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 18
From: Mark Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> www.zonelabs.com
>
> They do one of the better free ones.
Thanks. Because the free one I just tried kept my machine from
booting ;-(
-- Julie.
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On Thu, 17 May 2001, Julie wrote:
> From: coldfire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > well, i particularly enjoy networking stuff ... so if you need any help,
> > feel free to post and i'd love to help out as i'm sure others would too :)
> > quick question .. are you using ipfwadm, ipchains, or iptables?
>
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