> Correct. I have never understood why winmodems exist at all. They
> make no sense at all from any standpoint I can think of, except
> perhaps Intel's bottom line.
and mickeysoft bottom line too (how many users of winmodem complain they don't
work in linux and continue using windoze).
Alain
Hi, Jenn,
> Contact pricewatch and tell them that the box they sold you is
> not as advertised and would they please make good by providing
> you with equipment which IS as advertised.
>
> Over here (Australia), at least, you'd have a very VERY strong
> case to take to Small Claims - and the comp
why in lapttops...processor power and battery power are more scarce in a
laptop than they are on a desktop machine...the average new desktop machine
has processor to spare...
Ian wrote:
Possibly in laptops? But other that that I'd agree.
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On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:30:13 -, "Ian Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Buy your CPU will be running almost constantly anyway, and the DSP
>will be an extra drain. I was thinking more in terms of space
>constraints really though.
Well, laptop processors have variable power drain depending
> >Possibly in laptops? But other that that I'd agree.
>A DSP chip is probably going to have less power draw than a Pentium
Buy your CPU will be running almost constantly anyway, and the DSP will be an extra
drain. I was thinking more in terms of space constraints really though.
Yours,
Ian
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:41:44 -, "Ian Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Possibly in laptops? But other that that I'd agree.
A DSP chip is probably going to have less power draw than a
Pentium
Kelly
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> Correct. I have never understood why winmodems exist at all. They
> make no sense at all from any standpoint I can think of, except
> perhaps Intel's bottom line.
Possibly in laptops? But other that that I'd agree.
Yours,
Ian.
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Thanks for the great Idea!! I forwarded the message about the faq's to pricewatch
right away!!!
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Theresa Radke wrote:
> A real waste of processor cycles?? How so?? you make it sound as if running a driver
>for a winmodem is not a good thing to do, could you please explain?
>
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I have looked through a few of the places that are listed on
pricewatch... most of the "linux systems" are hard to find, possibly not
listed that way, and a few of the "cheap" systems (like microshack.com)
list modems that require win95/98/NT.
So it's really website dependent... pricewatch is a g
Caitlyn Martin wrote:
>
> Hi, Theresa,
> >
> > Thanks for the response, guess I might reconsider this group after I can
> afford to
> > upgrade?
>
> Not at all. You are welcome here. You asked a bunch of techies about a
> particular technology, and we gave you our honest opinion is all that
pricewatch doesn't sell systems, it just lists places you can buy
systems and their corresponding prices. Oftentimes, you have to double
check with the manufacturer about the prices listed there and the
product that they have on their site (we've had problems with this in
the past).
i would look
Theresa Radke wrote:
>
> #1. I am a single mom, and full time college student on a very limited budget, the
>fact that I was able to swing a new system at all when my old p100 bit the dust is no
>small miracle.
>
> #2. Wanting to give linux a whirl I wanted to purchase a box that would be
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:46:50 GMT, "J B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Ran a Lucent Winmodem on my Windoze system at home. Did not
>noticeably slowdown my system (PIII/500, 292MB)...
With that much CPU it's probably the case that your CPU was spending
most of its time idling anyway.
I suspect that
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:05:40 -0500, "Theresa Radke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Oh, RH was not pre-installed, it came on a CD as the operating system
>for the box. They said they could not install linux on the system as
>it was too difficult. What they should have said is that it is not
>compata
Caitlyn Martin wrote:
> Hi, Theresa,
> >
> > Thanks for the response, guess I might reconsider this group after I can
> afford to
> > upgrade?
>
> Not at all. You are welcome here. You asked a bunch of techies about a
> particular technology, and we gave you our honest opinion is all that
> h
Oh, RH was not pre-installed, it came on a CD as the operating system for the box.
They said they could not install linux on the system as it was too difficult.
What they should have said is that it is not compatable. I could not get a decent
video display on RH so when offered an opportunity
Ran a Lucent Winmodem on my Windoze system at home. Did not noticeably
slowdown my system (PIII/500, 292MB)...but when I fried that modem and
replaced with a USR hardware modem (old 56K, NOT V.90), I noticed that my
connection speeds increased, and I have had less problems with some of my
toy
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [techtalk] winmodem sound driver
>
> Hi, Theresa,
>
> > #2. Wanting to give linux a whirl I wanted to purchase a box that would
> be linux
> >compliant.
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:20:06 -0500, "Theresa Radke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>I use the 56k modem on windows all the time and don't notice any
>severe drag on my system... so guess I'll install that driver and
>save some money.
You probably have a fast enough CPU that you just don't notice it,
Hi, Theresa,
>
> Thanks for the response, guess I might reconsider this group after I can
afford to
> upgrade?
Not at all. You are welcome here. You asked a bunch of techies about a
particular technology, and we gave you our honest opinion is all that
happened.
Keep after the pricewatch folks.
> ewww, this really does sound bad, So you're saying I'd be better off to slap in
>an old USR 28800, than i would be to install a driver for my 56k winmodem?
>
Not really...a 56k modem is better anyday :) But there may be slight
performance loss on the machine. Of how much, I don't know,
#1. Not upset with ya'll at all
#2. I have contacted pricewatch, and am waiting for a resolution, but seriously doubt
that I"ll get one.
Thanks for the response, guess I might reconsider this group after I can afford to
upgrade?
> IMHO, buy a real 56K modem. I use a USR 56K Sportster, and it is problem
Agreed.
The safest bet, and (from what I can tell) the most reliable is to
purchase an external modem. That's assuming you have an available serial
port.
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I use the 56k modem on windows all the time and don't notice any severe drag on my
system...
so guess I'll install that driver and save some money.
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Hi, Theresa,
> #2. Wanting to give linux a whirl I wanted to purchase a box that would
be linux
>compliant. I went to pricewatch.com and purchased from their linux systems
section
> this box that is very non linux compliant.
That sounds like false advertising to me. Can you return it and find
#1. I am a single mom, and full time college student on a very limited budget, the
fact that I was able to swing a new system at all when my old p100 bit the dust is no
small miracle.
#2. Wanting to give linux a whirl I wanted to purchase a box that would be linux
compliant. I went to price
Hi, Theresa,
> ewww, this really does sound bad, So you're saying I'd be better
> off to slap in an old USR 28800, than i would be to install a driver for
my 56k
> winmodem?
I don't know if I'd go that far. What will happen with your Winmodem is
that when you go online, everything else wil
> A real waste of processor cycles?? How so?? you make it sound as if
> running a driver for a winmodem is not a good thing to do, could you
> please explain?
>
As Kelly has said, many winmodem's don't have a DSP...if you've not seen the
maths for DSP, then you're lucky :) DSP can get *very*
ewww, this really does sound bad, So you're saying I'd be better off to slap in an
old USR 28800, than i would be to install a driver for my 56k winmodem?
Thanks for taking the time to explainvery interesting stuff
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On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:46:53 -, "Ian Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>I suspect that this was meant to disparage winmodems, not the Linux
>drivers.
Correct. I have never understood why winmodems exist at all. They
make no sense at all from any standpoint I can think of, except
perhaps
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:27:14 -0500, "Theresa Radke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>A real waste of processor cycles?? How so?? you make it sound as if
>running a driver for a winmodem is not a good thing to do, could you
>please explain?
In a "real" modem, signal processing--converting the signal on
> A real waste of processor cycles?? How so?? you make it sound as if
> running a driver for a winmodem is not a good thing to do, could you
> please explain?
I suspect that this was meant to disparage winmodems, not the Linux drivers. I tend to
agree, since the cost savings aren't that much any
A real waste of processor cycles?? How so?? you make it sound as if running a driver
for a winmodem is not a good thing to do, could you please explain?
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it's been a while since i last compiled a kernel (currently,2.2.13 done just
after my latest linux install) but in the module support,there's a switch for
module version,try to use the switch and see if you can load the module with
your current kernel (you need to recompile though).
Alain Toussai
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 23:50:21 -0500 (EST), Laurel Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Wow, you actually got a driver for a winmodem???
Yeah, it's just a matter of emulating a DSP in the kernel. Raph has
been talking about doing this for some time.
It's a REAL waste of processor cycles, though.
Kell
Kir Kolyshkin wrote:
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:52:08 +0300
> From: Kir Kolyshkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [techtalk] winmodem sound driver
>
> Laurel Fan wrote:
>
> > Excerpts from linuxchix:
I know, so was I, I bought this system from the linux systems section on
pricewatch.com. Only to find that while it shipped with RH 6.0, hardly any of the
hardware was linux compatable.
I got a good price so have been struggling with slapping old hard ware I've got
hanging around.
Last night
Laurel Fan wrote:
> Excerpts from linuxchix: 13-Dec-99 [techtalk] winmodem sound d.. by
> "Theresa Radke"@corelcit
> > I have a PC-Chips MB with a winmodem onboard, I visited their
> > website and asked an engineer to please provide me with a
> > driver, I was actually shocked when he produced a
Excerpts from linuxchix: 13-Dec-99 [techtalk] winmodem sound d.. by
"Theresa Radke"@corelcit
> I have a PC-Chips MB with a winmodem onboard, I visited their
> website and asked an engineer to please provide me with a
> driver, I was actually shocked when he produced a driver for
> my sound card
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