Tapestry 3.0.3 TextField

Hi all, Is it possible to get the value from textfield which parameter is set to disabled? regards, Vincent - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

T4: How to invoke listener from other than current page object?

Lets say, I have some listener: - - also special navigation service is injected in that page: - - which has IRequestCicle object injected. 'flow' object has set of methods returning IPage, so to go on ItemDetails page in listener I need only to do next think: - publi

Re: Tapestry 3.0.3 TextField

Is not possible(as far as I know). I also run into this kind of problem and I would like to know is there is way of doing this. For myself, I used a workaround ... so for each disabled input I added an invisible field that is not disabled ... in this way the binding is done through the invisible

Urgent url issues updrading from beta10 to beta11 or later

Hi,all I'd like to implement my own ServiceEncoder to make friendly url,In my hivemind.xml,you can see: . This can work well in tapestry beta-10 or early version,but

Re: Tapestry 3.0.3 TextField

Hi Andrel, My intension is use html disabled="true" tag not tapestry tag. Is there any solution for this? regards, Vincent On 12/20/05, Andrei Chiritescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is not possible(as far as I know). I also run into this kind of problem > and I would like to know is there is way

Rendering block from other page

I have to select which block to render depending upon database configuration. To keep clean HTML mock-ups, I have moved the blocks into a separate page. The blocks are specified as separate components, subclassing Block. My problem is that they don't get rendered at all and I'm not sure why. Home

Re: Tapestry 3.0.3 TextField

Couple of questions: Why is it disable? To show a value? If so can you query the same function that set that value? (If its disabled the user can't change it). Or if its set by something else, can you have that same setter update an invisible field? (as someone else suggested) Vincent wrote

Re: Tapestry 3.0.3 TextField

Hi Matthew, The reason why I want to use disabled is the field is readonly , which means once the field value is set , it will not change any more. Of course ,there are several way to approah this , one way is to use readonly="true" but in the UI , disabled="true" and readonly does not look like t

Re: Tapestry 3.0.3 TextField

Hi Vincent, From what I understand you want to send the disabled parameter as an informal parameter not as a parameter to the TextField component, right? If so, I dont think you can do that. However, even if the you send the parameter to the component the html outcome will be the same.The

Re: Tapestry 3.0.3 TextField

Hi Vincent, You can use what Andrei suggest or you can use @Hidden component. What Andrei said is right, it will cause the same effect whether you use tapestry parameter or html attribute. ps: why don't you use @Insert instead of disabled TextField, it looks nicer to me :D Andrei Chi

Table Component

Hi, I need an example of a Table component in Tapestry 4.0. Can anyone provide me the same. Thanks, -Badri -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different… - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: Tapestry 3.0.3 TextField

Pheraps you can use a readonly="true" attribute and specify a CSS stylesheet that make it appear as a disabled one (gray background color or similar) This way you have not to deal with extra hidden components or extra javascript. regards Fabio Vincent ha scritto: Hi Matthew, The reason why

Re: T4: How to invoke listener from other than current page object?

just implement your own IActionListener. That should be pretty straight forward. What tapestry does when you define listener:method is create an IActionListener implementation on the fly. now, you could just delegate the getFlow().doSomething() method to a method in your page/component class

Re: Table Component

You might like to check out the one in the Workbench example that comes with the Tapestry 4 source code. Shing --- Badri Narayan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I need an example of a Table component in Tapestry > 4.0. Can anyone > provide me the same. > > Thanks, > -Badri > > -- > http

Tapestry vs. Wicket

Hi, For someone looking at moving away from MVC based web frameworks and towards component based web frameworks, what in your opinion makes Tapestry a better option than Wicket? What is Tapestry's strengths? Making an informed choice isn't a trivial exercise, considering the sheer number of poss

Re: Tapestry vs. Wicket

This is something I posted a long time ago, it's sort of negative sounding now that I look back on it, but I'm too lazy to re-write it so here ya go(in regard to some items, I do have access to the source now, so all the daydreamy stuff mentioned will be happening.. ;) ): >

Problem with submission in portlets

Hello! I'm using T4 for portlet application. In form listener I get the next page from injection. If I don't modify this page - everything is OK. The problem arises when I'm trying to change any property on that page. I've tried this on JBoss Portal 2.0 and Jetspeed 2. The exception is the sam

Re: Tapestry vs. Wicket

I disagree with you on the point that there is no html in wicket. Aren't you confusing yourself with the Echo framework? Wicket has the same templating concept as Tapestry but unlike Tapestry there are no configuration files. Every page is mapped onto a Java class. Having done production applicat

Re: Urgent url issues updrading from beta10 to beta11 or later

It might have something to do with changes to the behavior of getServletPath() (which I had an argument with uncharacteristically grumpy HLS about on JIRA). Try add this: String fullServletPath = encoding.getServletPath() + StringUtils.defaultString(encoding.getPathInfo()); ...th

Re: Tapestry vs. Wicket

For something interesting to look at, see Seaside. It's SmallTalk, and quite interesting: http://www.seaside.st/ On Dec 20, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Jesse Kuhnert wrote: This is something I posted a long time ago, it's sort of negative sounding now that I look back on it, but I'm too lazy to re-w

Re: Tapestry vs. Wicket

Let me throw Click into the mix http://click.sf.net/ It's Java, and also quite interesting :-) On 20/12/05, Jamie Orchard-Hays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For something interesting to look at, see Seaside. It's SmallTalk, > and quite interesting: > > http://www.seaside.st/ > > > On Dec 20, 20

Tried JSF ... Tapestry Rocks!!!

I was obligated to tyr JSF for real, so far I've been only reading and checking some demos. I've got in a project where I HAD to learn JSF, and It made me like Tapestry even more. JSF has such a Struts base that event that annoying mapping stuff is back but with a different name: navigation ... And

Re: Tried JSF ... Tapestry Rocks!!!

Vinicius Carvalho wrote: I was obligated to tyr JSF for real, so far I've been only reading and checking some demos. I've got in a project where I HAD to learn JSF, and It made me like Tapestry even more. JSF has such a Struts base that event that annoying mapping stuff is back but with a differe

Re: Tried JSF ... Tapestry Rocks!!!

That is the direction I'm working towards for 4.1 ... breaking the inheritance requirement. On 12/20/05, Vinicius Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was obligated to tyr JSF for real, so far I've been only reading and > checking some demos. I've got in a project where I HAD to learn JSF, and

Re: Tried JSF ... Tapestry Rocks!!!

I worked with JSF before it was released up at Sun for about 6 months on a rather large gui webapp and after working with tapestry 4 for a few months I have to say that I agree. Tapestry rocks house like nobody's business. I am still amazed at how much code you *don't* have to write with Tapestry,

custom exception page only in production

I found lots of great info on how to create a custom exception page, but I'm wondering if anyone has a good way to make the custom error page only appear in a production deploy and not in a testing deploy. -- Dan Adams Software Engineer Interactive Factory --

Re: custom exception page only in production

What we have done is to conditionally include the exception trace and tapestry error info on it, so developers can see it and final users only a "Internal error" message. I don't know if that is what you are looking for. We used a JVM system property to do that. Pedro El Mar, 20-12-2005 a las 11

RE: Tried JSF ... Tapestry Rocks!!!

Its like you read my mind on that. Tried JSF and cannot justify the learning curve vs developer productivity. As for the BasePage, I don't mind the controller extending a base class at all - for all the benefits that the framework provides. -Original Message- From: Vinicius Carvalho [mai

Re: Tapestry vs. Wicket

Hmmm.. I had to actually go back and look at wicket again to be sure, but I don't think you're right about the html markup. It's actually much worse than I originally thought ;) Look at http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleGuestBook.html. You will notice that you have to do tapestry-ish html mark

RE: Problem with submission in portlets

Andriy, This is a known problem: TAPESTRY-525 Link components should not render during rewind in portlet mode. This happens when you have a DirectLink (and probably any kind of link except LinkSubmit) inside a form. Raphael Jean EntropySoft > -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[E

Re: custom exception page only in production

Our custom Engine class overrode activateExceptionPage(). It checked a configuration property (read from a properties file on startup) to tell whether it was running on a production server. If so, it presented a user-friendly error page and emailed the exception to us. If not, it logged the exce

Re: custom exception page only in production

I just used my build script to copy a different .application file with the Custom Exception settings in. Simple solution. Dan Adams wrote: I found lots of great info on how to create a custom exception page, but I'm wondering if anyone has a good way to make the custom error page only appear in

Re: custom exception page only in production

yeah, i know that hivemind has conditional contributions and thought about using that. the only thing I'm not sure of is how/where i would set the system properties. On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 17:57 +0100, Pedro Abelleira Seco wrote: > What we have done is to conditionally include the exception trace a

Re: custom exception page only in production

That sounds well, but where do you store your properties file? I mean, how do you switch from development properties file to production file? Pedro El Mar, 20-12-2005 a las 12:11 -0500, Bryan Lewis escribió: > Our custom Engine class overrode activateExceptionPage(). It checked a > configuratio

Re: custom exception page only in production

What we have is to put this code in our exception page And we put this method in the java file public boolean getInDevel() { return (Boolean.getBoolean("sicus_devel")); } As we use Tomcat (the included one in Netbeans) each developer sets the enviroment variable CATALINA_

using hivemind registry in unit testing: threads not cleaning up

Hi, We use hivemind registry in JUnit, and it seems not to clean up threads, so all hivemind sessions remain open, causing very fast all database connections to be used :( Does anyone know the problem and, more important, a solution? Cheers, Ron

Re: Tried JSF ... Tapestry Rocks!!!

Personally I do not see much need to break the inheritance requirement. My reasons: - there is inevitably will be a layer in the application that will use some Tapestry and/or web specific things therefore placing it in a Page class makes sens

Upload Broken?

I've been unable to get the Upload component to work for my servlet-based app for the last 3 versions. Cut & pasting the documentation's code doesn't work. Anybody know wassup with this? Jason

Re: Upload Broken?

On 10b, 13b, rc1, and rc2 On 12/20/05, Jason Suplizio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been unable to get the Upload component to work for my servlet-based > app for the last 3 versions. Cut & pasting the documentation's code doesn't > work. Anybody know wassup with this? > Jason >

Re: using hivemind registry in unit testing: threads not cleaning up

Hivemind only cleans up threads that you tell it to manage, ie Registry.setupThread()/Registry.cleanupThread(). We had the same problem momentarily in our unit tests, until we tracked down the problem to that. Also be sure that you're not calling methods directly on hivemind factories that would o

Re: Upload Broken?

It seems to be broken for me as well, I'll try and create a general tapestry issue, hopefully more details will be filled in. I'm guessing a fix will come out in 4.0 final. Here is the already open jira issue, though it sounds unrelated I have a feeling it may be completely related. http://issues.

Re: Upload Broken?

Ok I can see that commons-fileupload has indeed updated their portlet support, probably fixing something in normal uploads as well. I'll post to jira when I have a fix. jesse On 12/20/05, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seems to be broken for me as well, I'll try and create a gener

Re: custom exception page only in production

Pedro Abelleira Seco wrote: >That sounds well, but where do you store your properties file? I mean, >how do you switch from development properties file to production file? > >Pedro > > I load it from the classpath with getResourceAsStream(). Each server has its own version of the properties fil

Re: custom exception page only in production

Thanks for sharing this. I hadn't thought about it. Good. Pedro El Mar, 20-12-2005 a las 14:07 -0500, Bryan Lewis escribió: > Pedro Abelleira Seco wrote: > > >That sounds well, but where do you store your properties file? I mean, > >how do you switch from development properties file to productio

Re: Upload Broken?

Hey Jason, Try downloading commons-fileupload rc1 from ibiblio. I wish all problems were as easy to solve On 12/20/05, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok I can see that commons-fileupload has indeed updated their portlet > support, probably fixing something in normal uploads as w

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

For my organization, full JDK 1.5 for all APIs and systems +1. Now, for the people who need to use JDK 1.4, does anyone knows if this works? http://retroweaver.sourceforge.net/ -- Ing. Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi DTQ Software Howard Lewis Ship wrote: With Tapestry 4.0 winding down, some of u

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Every client I've talked is ready to adopt 1.5. The only reservation is formal support for some app servers. But I all the major vendors will have their products certified on 1.5 by the end of '05. In other words, I strongly support the idea. I really enjoy working on 1.5. Serge Howard Lewi

RE: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Personally, +1 for 1.5. I'm already targeting 1.5 for everything I'm working on now, so I've no need for 1.4.2 compatibilty. --- Pat > -Original Message- > From: Howard Lewis Ship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:05 PM > To: Tapestry developm

Re: Tried JSF ... Tapestry Rocks!!!

> > I was obligated to tyr JSF for real, so far I've been only reading and > > checking some demos. I've got in a project where I HAD to learn JSF, and It > > made me like Tapestry even more. JSF has such a Struts base that event that > > annoying mapping stuff is back but with a different name: na

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Well, for all of us working on *Oracle iAS* / *OC4J *a MANDATE for JDK 1.5 would be a *full show stopper*, as Oracle hasn't certified their products for 1.5. Yet. So please, pretty please, keep supporting 1.4. Thx, Martijn Howard Lewis Ship wrote: With Tapestry 4.0 winding down, some of us

[DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

With Tapestry 4.0 winding down, some of us are already looking forward to Tapestry 4.1. Now, we would hope that 4.1 will not have as long a life cycle as 4.0, which was 50% too long. I would hope for a final 4.1 by Q3 2006. One thing that I, personally, would like would be to start re-working th

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Our customers are starting to accept JDK 1.5 in new projects. So no reason to stick to 1.4 here. Markus On 12/20/05, Martijn Hinten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, for all of us working on *Oracle iAS* / *OC4J *a MANDATE for JDK > 1.5 would be a *full show stopper*, as Oracle hasn't certified

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

While we are the subject, will Tapestry's reliance on rewinding be revisited. Is there not alternative to this process. Also, we could also use more formal support for dynamic forms. Is this possible? Thanks E - Original Message From: Sergei Dubov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tapestry us

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Martijn, does Retroweaver work for you? -- Ing. Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi DTQ Software Martijn Hinten wrote: Well, for all of us working on *Oracle iAS* / *OC4J *a MANDATE for JDK 1.5 would be a *full show stopper*, as Oracle hasn't certified their products for 1.5. Yet. So please, pretty

Re: using hivemind registry in unit testing: threads not cleaning up

Thanx Jesse, I don't understand what zou mean with calling hivemind factories, but maybe its important to know we currently only test our business layer, so if you meant tapestry-factories than its irrelevant. So if I get it right, I have to add Registry.setupThread/cleanupThread in the Test

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

We are building all new apps for 1.5 so thats definitely a +1 here. I would love to see heavier use of things like generics and annotations. On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 13:05 -0800, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: > With Tapestry 4.0 winding down, some of us are already looking forward > to Tapestry 4.1. > >

Re: Upload Broken?

Jesse, I updated to commons-fileupload rc1 and the documentation code still doesn't work. It worked for you? My listener is not getting called. Jason On 12/20/05, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Jason, > > Try downloading commons-fileupload rc1 from ibiblio. I wish all problems >

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

We don't have the flexibility to make a quick migration between JDK versions. As a result, mandating 1.5 might force us to completely reevaluate our framework decision. This is really unfortunate as I personally prefer 1.5 and love Tapestry. On 12/20/05, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > w

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

T 4.0 and T3.x are available and they do work on java 1.4. Why are you so concerned about future T version being java 5 dependent? That will happen to virtually all frameworks at some point in the future. Jason Suplizio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We don't have the flexibility to make a quick m

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

I'm just a small-time development shop in a third-world country, but in my current work environment (Oracle IAS and WAS 5 mostly, some Tomcats) it will take ages for my customers to upgrade to JDK 1.4 -capable app servers. Except for the Tomcat installations, they're still on 1.3... This would mea

RE: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

I think you may have misread what Howard proposed. 4.0 is and will be 1.4 compatible. He's speculating about 4.1. --- Pat > -Original Message- > From: Darío Vasconcelos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:59 PM > To: Tapestry u

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Howard Lewis Ship wrote: This is obviously a contentious issue, so I'm asking people to look into their personal crystal ball and see what they and they're organization will look like by next summer, in terms of JDK adoption. Yes please. I only use JDK1.5 for all my projects these days. It's

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Hi, I do not have the ability to observe the Tapestry lists at this moment, because of other priority things that I need to concentrate on, but here is my opinion on this: Given that a lot of people do not have the flexibility to move to 1.5, having a 1.5-only Tapestry would be a major, m

[DISCUSS] Moving beyond the "rewind cycle" in Tapestry 4.1

I hope to abolish the rewind cycle in Tapestry 4.1. Part of this was to deprecate the ActionLink component and action service in 4.0 so that they could be removed in 4.1. The outline of my approach is that there will be a single hidden form field into which a series of objects will be serialized

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

On 12/20/05, Darío Vasconcelos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm just a small-time development shop in a third-world country, but > in my current work environment (Oracle IAS and WAS 5 mostly, some > Tomcats) it will take ages for my customers to upgrade to JDK 1.4 > -capable app servers. Except for

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Howard and Patrick, I stand corrected. I assumed that 4.0 would be kind of an unfinished version that would have most bugs polished in 4.1. It is now clear that version 4.0 will be JDK1.4 compatible and TP 4.1 might not. I liked MindBridge's proposal a lot. Does it mean that all 4.1 releases woul

RE : [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

May I mention that just 4 months ago IBM released IBM Workplace, their brand-new J2EE collaborative and email platform and that it only runs on JDK 1.3? There is hope that an upgrade to 1.4 will be possible at some point in 2006... The bottom line is we don't choose which JDK we run on. Customer

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

We use 1.5 for all new development, so +1 here. Matt Welch

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Ditto for any DB2 users. IBM says 1.5 maybe by summer. Maybe. Martijn Hinten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/20/2005 01:22 PM Please respond to "Tapestry users" To Tapestry users cc Subject Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1? Well, for all of us working on *Oracle iAS* / *OC4J *a MAND

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Excuse me? Retroweaver? I know I should google it up, forgive me. Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi wrote: Martijn, does Retroweaver work for you? -- *Cumquat Information Technology* De Dreef 19 3706 BR Zeist T +31 (0)30 - 6940490 F +31 (0)10 - 6940499 http://www.cumquat.nl

Re: RE : [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Do I understand correctly: it does NOT run on Java5? In my experience most of the Java applications work fine on J5 unless someone used sun.* packages, which are NOT supposed to be used according to the very first page of Java documentation ( saw them used by 'less than good' developers )

RE: [DISCUSS] Moving beyond the "rewind cycle" in Tapestry 4.1

So, to perhaps beat a dying horse, what should be used instead of ActionLink? I (and I'm sure others) almost exclusively use ActionLink and everything I've read about the other *Link components is not adequate for what I want (adequate being a relative term, of course -- I'm sure I could make the

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Martijn Hinten wrote: Excuse me? Retroweaver? I know I should google it up, forgive me. Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi wrote: Martijn, does Retroweaver work for you? Go ahead and google it up. Ahhh.. I'll write for you the query, just because I'm in a good mood, hehe http://www.google.com.ar/

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

If we do not upgrade to JDK 1.5 in 4.1 then that pushes us to 4.2 in 2007. This is unacceptably "late" and will affect the marketability of Tapestry. Ideally we should peg our JDK support to the same level as JBOSS and keep them in lockstep. Ed - Original Message From: Onno Scheffer

RE : RE : [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4 .1?

IBM Workplace bundles (old versions of) Websphere AS and Portal so it comes with its own environment. De: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: mar. 20/12/2005 23:48 À: Tapestry users Objet : Re: RE : [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1? Do I unde

Re: [DISCUSS] Moving beyond the "rewind cycle" in Tapestry 4.1

Howard, can't these major changes be wrapped up in single point releases? 4.1: Delete the rewind cycle 4.2: Rework component interfaces.. and such?? Q3 2006 seems like a lot! Almost a year.. -- Ing. Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi DTQ Software Howard Lewis Ship wrote: I hope to abolish the rewind

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Thanks and sorry for being lazy (well, busy actualy). I looked at it at sourceforge and will certainly check it out. Thanks a milion! Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi wrote: Martijn Hinten wrote: Excuse me? Retroweaver? I know I should google it up, forgive me. Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi wrote:

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Using Java annotations for Tapestry 4 development is dramatically cleaner than doing it with page files. I (and my clients, including the Fortune 100 one you know) would be fine with moving to JDK 5. Besides, we're talking next summer/fall for 4.1, plus time to make sure it's settled in (an

Re: [DISCUSS] Moving beyond the "rewind cycle" in Tapestry 4.1

That's a great idea ! We could have a continuous upgrade process instead of a huge amount of modifications on Q3 2006. Stephane Leonardo Quijano Vincenzi wrote: Howard, can't these major changes be wrapped up in single point releases? 4.1: Delete the rewind cycle 4.2: Rework component inter

RE: [DISCUSS] Moving beyond the "rewind cycle" in Tapestry 4.1

Eeek! Maybe I'm weird on this one, but I'd much rather have a small number of big releases than a continuous upgrade cycle. Every time I change a core library, it's a regression testing nightmare. Even if nothing at all breaks, I still have to go back and ensure that fact. I can d

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

One other thought: If the programming model changes radically, it's not really a point release. Tapestry 5 could be a clearer name in that case. ...Richard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional command

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

+1 on moving to 1.5 for me, anything that makes my life easier :) I think if the backwards compatibility provided by retroweaver can be reasonably worked in then we're all happy right? It's a tough decision. I don't have time to evaluate retroweaver tonight, but as long as it doesn't impose any l

Re: [DISCUSS] Moving beyond the "rewind cycle" in Tapestry 4.1

I'm thinking more of a 4-6 month release cycle, like other OS software projects do. It's a good balance between the two. As for me, I'd prefer a more continuous release cycle, specially because of the regressions. I prefer a gradual breaking change that I can absorb in several release cycles,

Re: using hivemind registry in unit testing: threads not cleaning up

I meant more like connection pooling (or hibernate session) factories being managed by hivemind. You could do that in a setup and teardown method, but it may get a little heavy. We are cheating by using testng though, where you can easily specify methods that should be run before/after a suite/cla

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Just to chime in one last time because of new thoughts, I would like to emphasise that I'm still a huge fan of design/superior code ~almost~ being more important than any other factor. It's the reason why I chose/still love tapestry. (It can't overcome the language limitations) Of course there are

Re: [DISCUSS] Moving beyond the "rewind cycle" in Tapestry 4.1

The structural changes starting in 4.0 and continuing in 4.1 and beyond are to make it easier to add features without breaking backwards compatibility. Less API == less to maintain compatibility with. I've also been thinking about adding some annotations to mark interfaces and classes as internal

Re: Urgent url issues updrading from beta10 to beta11 or later

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Re: Upload Broken?

Hmmm..It is working for me, but my environment may be much different than yours. Any chance I could get you to post all the dirty details to JIRA for me? I promise I'll take a look at it and try a fix if it's reasonably possible. (I'm running jdk 1.5 + jetty ) On 12/20/05, Jason Suplizio <[EMAIL P

Re: Tried JSF ... Tapestry Rocks!!!

Agreed to those reasons. The good argument I see for breaking the inheritance requirement is that it would let one just instantiate a page object straight up, instead of having to worry about getting it from the cycle, clearing fields from previous requests, etc. The Tapestry lifecycle as i

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

+1 for pervasive generics support! On Dec 20, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: With Tapestry 4.0 winding down, some of us are already looking forward to Tapestry 4.1. Now, we would hope that 4.1 will not have as long a life cycle as 4.0, which was 50% too long. I would hope for a f

Re: [DISCUSS] Moving beyond the "rewind cycle" in Tapestry 4.1

I'm all for the single serialized client state concept. For ajax forms, it does seem problematic, but currently even the addition of form components has finally been cleared up thanks to your wrapper around the hidden form input fields. ie : I just use my custom AjaxFormSupportImpl to alwa

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1? (retroweaver)

Anyone considering solving their problems with Retroweaver should read this: http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kirillcool/archive/2005/07/porting_small_l.html Still, Howard seems mainly interested in just using new language features such as annotations and generics, so it might be feasible if done car

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

Howard Lewis Ship gmail.com> writes: > Now, we would hope that 4.1 will not have as long a life cycle as 4.0, > which was 50% too long. I would hope for a final 4.1 by Q3 2006. > > One thing that I, personally, would like would be to start re-working > the APIs to make use of JDK 1.5 annotation

Re: [DISCUSS] JDK 1.5 for Tapestry 4.1?

IMO, we should definetly go with JDK1.5 for next major Tapestry release. Also, I don't want to sound pesimistic, but looking at Tapestry's release pace till now, I somehow doubt that this release will be final when initially thought, so let's assume it won't be final in Q3 2006, but in the begi