Agreed to those reasons. The good argument I see for breaking the
inheritance requirement is that it would let one just instantiate a
page object straight up, instead of having to worry about getting it
from the cycle, clearing fields from previous requests, etc. The
Tapestry lifecycle as it currently exists still has its moments of
sheer confusion....
FWIW, I also compared JSF & Tapestry for my current project, and went
in with a bias toward JSF but chose Tapestry.
Cheers,
Paul
On Dec 20, 2005, at 12:11 PM, Konstantin Ignatyev wrote:
Personally I do not see
much need to break the inheritance requirement.
My reasons:
- there is inevitably will be a layer in the application that
will use some Tapestry and/or web specific things therefore placing
it in a Page class makes sense ;
- inconvenience of testing and necessity or simple desire to
instantiate Page class directly probably indicates that too much
logic is placed in the web/Tapestry specific layer. A little bit of
refactoring helps would make application more robust,
comprehensible and maintainable.
Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That is the direction
I'm working towards for 4.1 ... breaking the
inheritance requirement.
On 12/20/05, Vinicius Carvalho wrote:
I was obligated to tyr JSF for real, so far I've been only reading
and
checking some demos. I've got in a project where I HAD to learn
JSF, and It
made me like Tapestry even more. JSF has such a Struts base that
event that
annoying mapping stuff is back but with a different name:
navigation ... And
the JSP looks like a salad of tags, petty.
One thing I thought was cool, the idea of having any POJO being a
controller. Could Tapestry have this one day? Not extend BasePage
anymore.
Couldn't it use dynamic bytecode enhancing to create a proxy that
implements
page? Those are only ideas ;)
Regards
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
Creator, Jakarta HiveMind
Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support
and project work. http://howardlewisship.com
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