Re: [Tagging] Ferry frequency

2013-10-04 Thread sabas88
Duration is also important and currently used by OSRM (although not on relations yet), like http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/176323421 Cheers, Stefano ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagg

Re: [Tagging] tourism=guest_house or tourism=bed_and_breakfast ?

2013-10-17 Thread sabas88
2013/10/17 Pieren > Could someone explain the difference between "tourism=guest_house" and > "tourism=bed_and_breakfast" ? > Both are suggested here: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dguest_house > but only "guest_house" is really documented in the wiki. > > In taginfo, we find 5

Re: [Tagging] Pre-proposal: Newsagent / Kiosk / Tobacco / TIcket shop

2013-11-03 Thread sabas88
2013/11/3 Martin Koppenhoefer > > 2013/11/3 Matthijs Melissen > >> Do these kind of shops also exist in other countries, and how are they >> referred to? Which of the products that I listed do they sell? >> > > > There is surely some overlap between countries, but there are also country > specif

Re: [Tagging] tag for co-working spaces

2013-11-25 Thread sabas88
2013/11/25 Severin MENARD > Hi, > > Seems this does not exist yet. > Here is the taginfo situation > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=working_space#values > > What about a office=co_working_space or office=co-working_space? > > Hi, I'd prefer some

Re: [Tagging] OpenSeaMap tagging - seamark-prefix was Re: [Imports] IENC of the German WSV

2013-12-11 Thread sabas88
2013/12/11 Malcolm Herring > We (OpenSeaMap) are open to suggestions on this. The harbour project has > recently been re-started after a hiatus of several years. As we are > building a separate database to contain imports from various public harbour > data sources. These harbour objects only requ

[Tagging] [RFC] Classification for ports and inland terminals

2014-01-12 Thread sabas88
Dear all, after the discussion regarding the seamark tagging I wanted to start some proposals to have a consensus on a general way of tagging marine facilities (and hopefully get them rendered to solve incorrect tagging for the renderer :-) [1]). With this proposal I wanted to give a unique tag to

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a public works facility ?

2014-02-19 Thread sabas88
2014-02-19 17:32 GMT+01:00 Dan S : > Any reasons not to use landuse=depot? Besides the sparsity of its wiki > page... > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Ddepot > 428 instances in taginfo > > +1 But using depot:type=* instead of type=* (as I suggested in http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.co

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a public works facility ?

2014-02-19 Thread sabas88
2014-02-19 18:20 GMT+01:00 Pieren : > > > Btw, use simply "depot=*" instead of "depot:type=*". I don't > understand this recent trend to add a ":type" suffix in subtags. It > was not the case in the past (e.g. "building=*", "wood=*", > "traffic_signals=*", etc, etc, etc) > > Simply because there's

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a public works facility ?

2014-02-19 Thread sabas88
2014-02-19 22:04 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > depot will probably still fit: there are repair depots, storage depots etc. > > Maybe there c > > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistics_center > > > the landuse would be industrial I guess. > > Why use landuse=industrial? Because it's rendere

Re: [Tagging] Help me locate this tag checking website.

2014-02-21 Thread sabas88
2014-02-21 20:43 GMT+01:00 Dave F. : > Hi > > I'm unable to remember the name or find the location of a tag checking web > page. > > It was a slippy map of mapnik rendering that had a single line text box > into which you could type a key, value or both & after a search would > display an icon at

Re: [Tagging] Study area

2014-02-26 Thread sabas88
2014-02-27 8:45 GMT+01:00 Stephan Knauss : > On 27.02.2014 01:48, Dave Swarthout wrote: > >> @Martin, I'm not sure about the status of the books but that's not the >> prominent feature of this place. I will go back for more details later >> but it is definitely not a library. >> @Stephan - neither

Re: [Tagging] Study area

2014-02-27 Thread sabas88
2014-02-27 10:37 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout : > @Stephan: I like the coworking_space idea. It certainly fits the practice > at Punspace. > > >>IMO if we have the opportunity we shouldn't use amenity key.<< > > @Stefano: Why do you think we should not use the amenity key? > Because it's overcrowded

Re: [Tagging] Study area

2014-02-27 Thread sabas88
2014-02-27 12:06 GMT+01:00 Pieren : > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:56 AM, sabas88 wrote: > > > Because it's overcrowded > > Today, it's less than shop ... > > > and office should suit better, as coworking are > > basically and most of the time offices

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-01 Thread sabas88
On 1 Apr 2014 19:08, "Pierre Knobel" wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm new on this mailing list, but I spend a few months already on the talk-fr list and I've been mapping for a while longer. > > I just wanted to mention a new tag I created yesterday: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dclou

Re: [Tagging] admin_level on nodes: wiki vs practice

2014-05-11 Thread sabas88
On 11 May 2014 06:32, "Fernando Trebien" wrote: > > Hm I've looked up a few other cities (Hamburg, Munich, Cologne, Lyon, > Marseille, Rotterdam, Zurich, Manchester, Birmingham, Salzburg, > Aarhus) and they do not have an admin_level tag on the place=* node. > At the same time, I found some other

Re: [Tagging] Pipeline bridges

2014-06-19 Thread sabas88
If we consider aqueducts http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/176520234#map=18/44.45802/8.97848 http://www.acquedottogenova.altervista.org/images/01-primo%20itinerario/46_sifone%20geirato.jpg http://www.oruko.altervista.org/images/curiosita-ponti/11b-sifone%20geirato.jpg Otherwise here's a bridge/gas

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

2014-07-05 Thread sabas88
Dear all, after almost six months from the original proposal, now I would like to ask you to vote these two new tags. Accepting the tag landuse=port would improve the detailed tagging of port areas, for example to tell apart container terminals (easily distinguishable from satellite imagery) from

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

2014-07-06 Thread sabas88
2014-07-06 9:48 GMT+02:00 Malcolm Herring : > On 06/07/2014 08:24, nounours77 wrote: > >> => So this would imply that "port" is a individual facility inside a >> "harbour". >> > In fact it is the other way round. A port my contain one or more harbours. > (In turn, a harbour may contain zero or mor

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

2014-07-06 Thread sabas88
2014-07-06 12:48 GMT+02:00 Malcolm Herring : > On 06/07/2014 10:45, sabas88 wrote: > >> Let me know how I can edit / disambiguate. >> >> The important distinction is that a port is an administrative boundary > (which may have several disjunct areas) whereas harbours,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

2014-07-07 Thread sabas88
2014-07-07 16:50 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss : > This proposal needs EXAMPLES, EXAMPLES and more EXAMPLES!!! > Hi Andreas, thanks for the email.. I will try to follow your suggestion :-) > > I would like to see some examples that show everything in one picture: > habour, ports, port authority bounda

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

2014-07-07 Thread sabas88
2014-07-07 17:09 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2014-07-05 14:02 GMT+02:00 sabas88 : > > >> For port proposal and voting page see >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/landuse%3Dport >> >> > > In this case there is ha

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

2014-07-07 Thread sabas88
2014-07-07 17:47 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2014-07-07 17:21 GMT+02:00 sabas88 : > > As I explained in the talk page previously, I would like to stay with roro >> as a value, because it's more common in the usage. > > > > I still believe you should e

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

2014-07-07 Thread sabas88
Dear all, I edited the two proposals as required. Regarding the intermodal_terminal, I added a definition and some pictures. Considering the port proposal, I made more extensive changes to make it more similar to other tags, as suggested by Martin. Mainly the idea is to have categories in the port

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

2014-07-08 Thread sabas88
2014-07-08 9:37 GMT+02:00 Malcolm Herring : > Most ports handle many different types of cargoes, so a single value is > insufficient. It would be better to tag the individual terminal objects > within a port with a type rather than assign a type to the port object. > > > We could use a single poly

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

2014-07-12 Thread sabas88
2014-07-08 11:44 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss : > We could use a single polygon per terminal tagged as in the proposal >> (similar to other landuse types) if we need to go in detail. If needed >> using also multiple values (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semicolon) >> > > If you read the page you w

Re: [Tagging] University accommodation (was Re: Future proposal - RFC - amenity=dormitory)

2014-09-20 Thread sabas88
On 19 Sep 2014 16:54, "Tobias Knerr" wrote: > > On 19.09.2014 14:22 Dan S wrote: > > for buildings: building=residential + residential=university + operator=* > > OR > > for sites: landuse=residential + residential=university + operator=* > > > > Note that the same scheme seems to me

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-10-10 Thread sabas88
2014-10-10 19:05 GMT+02:00 Kotya Karapetyan : > Dear all, > > I would hereby like to propose a new value for the man_made tag: > > man_made=water_tap > > The proposal page is: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/water_tap > Hi, I use amenity=drinking_water + drinkable=no Now I

Re: [Tagging] Problems with historic=tomb

2014-10-16 Thread sabas88
2014-10-16 8:33 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > It seems that are serious problems with this tag, is there somebody > interested in > this topic who want to make a better proposal? > > (1) This tag can not be used on the same object as > historic=archaeological_site - > despite the fact that many

Re: [Tagging] [tagging] Amenity=Ufficio_Pubblico

2014-12-15 Thread sabas88
2014-12-15 15:31 GMT+01:00 Simone Savio : > > Hi propose > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ufficio_pubblico > > > becaus I want create a specific tag for public institutions in It

Re: [Tagging] [tagging] Amenity=Ufficio_Pubblico

2014-12-15 Thread sabas88
2014-12-15 15:52 GMT+01:00 Martin Vonwald : > > > > 2014-12-15 15:42 GMT+01:00 sabas88 : >> >> I know we have an unusual amount of bureaucracy in Italy, but we may not >> need a custom tag for it >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:am

Re: [Tagging] [tagging] Amenity=Ufficio_Pubblico

2014-12-15 Thread sabas88
2014-12-15 17:03 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > > 2014-12-15 15:42 GMT+01:00 sabas88 : >> >> Hi, >> I know we have an unusual amount of bureaucracy in Italy, but we may not >> need a custom tag for it >> > > > from my experience it

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=cash_and_carry

2011-09-10 Thread sabas88
Hi there, I made a proposal for a cash and carry shop tag. Cash and carry are big wholesale dealers ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_and_carry_%28wholesale%29) You can find the proposal page here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/shop%3Dcash_and_carry Stefano sarchittuorg ___

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=wholesale (was cash_and_carry)

2011-09-19 Thread sabas88
After some suggestions, I came with a new formalization suggested by two users. It's used in taginfo, and it needs a more specific key also already in use. Perhaps it's ready also to start voting, comment it. Regards, Stefano / sarchittuorg ___ Tagging m

Re: [Tagging] railways, subway stations and train stations

2011-09-22 Thread sabas88
If it's public_transport=subway, IMHO there should be a station=yes as a subtag ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] railways, subway stations and train stations

2011-09-22 Thread sabas88
> > > How is someone to determine whether something is a railway=station or a > railway=subway_station? If it's on a metro (subway) line it's a subway_station, else if it's on a train line it's a station. In these cases you'd use layer=* Stefano ___ Tagg

Re: [Tagging] railways, subway stations and train stations

2011-09-22 Thread sabas88
I suggested before to make subway into public_transport, so in this case it simply will be an unique area with both railway=* and public_transport=* tags :) 2011/9/22 Chris Dombroski > On Thursday, September 22, 2011 07:54:29 AM sabas88 wrote: > > > How is someone to determine wheth

Re: [Tagging] additional barrier type?

2011-11-30 Thread sabas88
2011/12/1 Richard Welty > while out mapping today, i encountered a barrier type that doesn't have a > suitable > tag in the wiki: > > barrier=guardrail > > in the specific case, a road leading to an abandoned bridge has had a > guardrail > barrier placed across the road to keep vehicular traffic

[Tagging] Health and other stories

2012-01-10 Thread sabas88
Hi list, I want to suggest a topic of discussion not often considered: planning a more rational tagging system to be applied onto the existing data and for the future. (OK, it's flame time! :D) For instance the discussion could start with a simple case: healthcare. Now the health facilities are ta

Re: [Tagging] Health and other stories

2012-01-11 Thread sabas88
2012/1/11 Frederik Ramm > > I find it a bit harsh that you complain about amenity=dentist when others > languish in an amenity=prison. > I laughed hard, I didn't noticed it :D 2012/1/11 Martin Koppenhoefer > > nobody stops you from using other keys then "amenity", some people > already do it

Re: [Tagging] Health and other stories

2012-01-11 Thread sabas88
2012/1/11 Michael Krämer > To be honest I haven't really thought about the > difference between until this thread came up... That's a problem for various non-native speakers (me included eheh) This should be an opportunity to make some changes in syntax and semantics [1] of OSM. We should sta

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread sabas88
2012/1/11 Erik Johansson > I tag all parking spaces as amenity=parking, even though you have to > rent a place by the month. I'm guessing this is wrong? But this is how > most people do it. I'd like a subkey for the landuse=road :P ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] Health and other stories

2012-01-11 Thread sabas88
2012/1/11 Serge Wroclawski > parking=* requires amenity=parking. > > That seems entirely redundant to me, and if I were king, I'd strip out > amenity=parking. > (the whole parking scheme needs re-design to integrate the various > schemes currently in place). > > - Serge This should be part of r

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Mapping guidelines

2012-01-17 Thread sabas88
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] When should a name:* translation be used?

2012-01-30 Thread sabas88
2012/1/30 Nathan Edgars II > >> >> It is quite frequent that the names of the more famous places get >> translated into different languages. I don't speak Vietnamese, but >> this looks like nothing particularily strange to me. If you need a >> reason to keep it: I guess the Vietnamese speaking pe

Re: [Tagging] Public airport multipolygon?

2012-01-30 Thread sabas88
2012/1/30 Josh Doe > > I guess you can't, at least not now. That's one issue with the > free-form tagging system we use. Sooner or later we'll have to develop > a process to deprecate tags, change tags, etc. Perhaps we should start > a separate thread and discuss how this process could work. +1

Re: [Tagging] tagging of "ele" / elevation data e.g. in the context of towers

2012-02-20 Thread sabas88
2012/2/20 Martin Koppenhoefer > On the German ML we are currently discussing how to applicate "ele" to > towers (and similar situations). There is consensus that the key > "height" is describing the height of the structure from the ground to > the top. There is also consensus to tag elevation dat

Re: [Tagging] Tag approval process or its absence (was: Voting for Relation type=waterway)

2012-02-20 Thread sabas88
That's some kind of consideration, like the one I proposed some time ago, about building a clean tagging scheme, but has led to a discussion about another topic and died. My +1 will always go to cleaning. Cheers, Stefano ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@

Re: [Tagging] Tag approval process or its absence (was: Voting for Relation type=waterway)

2012-02-21 Thread sabas88
2012/2/21 Frederik Ramm > > I don't think that a tagging style that works best in Europe will > automatically also be the one that works best in South America. Any attempt > to force everyone to use the same style will automatically make the map > *less* good in some places. I think that it is on

Re: [Tagging] gym as an amenity value

2012-03-09 Thread sabas88
Il giorno 10/mar/2012 06:49, "Clifford Snow" ha scritto: >> >> To me fitness centers are more related to health than leisure. I'd prefer to use the tag "amenity" instead. > > Thoughts? I feel like I'm in prison when I go to the gym[0]… > > Clifford Stefano [0] wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pri

Re: [Tagging] any tag you like, but why create parallel systems for established tags? DCGIS

2012-03-10 Thread sabas88
Il giorno 10/mar/2012 15:25, "Josh Doe" ha scritto: > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > Looking at the key name and values this looks like the date when the > > external database included the object in their system. Why on earth > > should we keep track of this i

Re: [Tagging] sidewalks and tagging for the renderer

2012-04-10 Thread sabas88
2012/4/10 Martin Koppenhoefer > I am coming back to a topic we had some time ago: sidewalks. > > According to this page > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:footway%3Dsidewalk > > sidewalks should be tagged with > highway=footway > footway=sidewalk > > While I agree that for complex situation

Re: [Tagging] Geology and landcover - Building an extension

2012-05-23 Thread sabas88
2012/5/23 Martin Koppenhoefer > 2012/5/23 sabas88 : > > What about building a proposal to extend landcover=* tag to meet FAO's > > system? > > > I think if you wanted to implement the FAO system you would need more > than one additional tag, so I suggest to make

Re: [Tagging] Count of urinals

2012-05-26 Thread sabas88
2012/5/26 Shu Higashi > Hi, > > I was asked by a woman if she can map the count of urinals (or > something other appropriate name in english?) in a toilet. > Because it is very important for women to count their waiting time. > So I'd like to propose a tag to count the urials. > > For example: >

[Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Soccer variants

2012-05-31 Thread sabas88
Hi all, I made a proposal for a new soccer=* tag to describe which variant is played on a field. Currently there isn't a way to tell if a soccer field is regular-sized (on which it's played the regular soccer) or it's a simple field traced in a church backyard for example. http://wiki.openstreetma

[Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-06-03 Thread sabas88
Hi, I started discussing in the local list about the approach in tagging ferry routes. The wiki page [0] seems a little bit unclear, leaving two approaches: -normal way between harbours -relation like a normal road. I tried to follow the relation approach like I saw in other seas, but I cannot und

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-06-03 Thread sabas88
2012/6/3 Philip Barnes > [cut] > Dover-Calais does seem to work well, you may get some ideas there. > > http://map.project-osrm.org/xR > > Thanks, seems similar to how I made the routes in Genoa, we'll see at the next OSRM update how it behaves... I don't understand why way 14271003 (the main rou

[Tagging] Wholesale, key without proposal?

2012-06-29 Thread sabas88
Hi, I saw this [0] page which describes a feature with ~30 uses, created on June 20th. Some months ago, I made this[1] proposal for a new shop value, which has now 80 occurrences. Should I mark one of the two pages in some way? What's the correct one? Regards, Stefano [0]http://wiki.openstreetma

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - natural=bare_rock

2012-07-02 Thread sabas88
2012/7/2 Johan Jönsson > This is an old proposal that have been discussed before. It seem to be in > use > according to tag watch, so I have been urged to make this official. > > There are also similar tags in use and others proposed but that doesn´t > mean > this one could be approved. > > http:

Re: [Tagging] Ferry lines, ways or relations?

2012-09-05 Thread sabas88
This discussion already took place some months ago.. Since then I saw a lot of changes after I edited initially some Italian lines.. 2012/9/5 Janko Mihelić > I opened an issue on OSRM-s Github page: > > https://github.com/DennisOSRM/Project-OSRM/issues/402 https://github.com/DennisOSRM/Project

Re: [Tagging] water parks and swimming pools

2013-01-15 Thread sabas88
There's also an attraction=water_slide[0], it isn't rendered in the current stylesheet but it's the correct tag to use :) I'm respondible for some swimming pools multipolygons, the explaination is that in water parks there are these big water areas in which you can walk or swim, but there are some

[Tagging] Luncheon Vouchers

2013-03-05 Thread sabas88
Hello, I wanted to add information on some restaurants / bars to indicate if they accept luncheon vouchers (meal vouchers), but I didn't find anything. These vouchers are given by work employers to be used for lunch payments. I was looking at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Payment which I thin

[Tagging] Intermodal transport

2013-04-09 Thread sabas88
Hello, I would like to start a discussion related to intermodal transport and its facilities, and I drafted a page[0] with some links in it. A tagging system should be proposed also considering the maritime tagging (OpenSeaMap), or extending it to deal with inland facilities. As an example, I saw