2010/8/9 fly :
> There exists a proposal:
> wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Conditions_for_access_tags
> which was made for theses conditions, but it uses a relation and I was in no
> need so far to use it.
you don't need relations for this. There is also another similar
(follow-up)
2010/8/15 Richard Mann :
> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Sebastian Klein
> wrote:
>> from what I understand, landuse is to mark a larger area that has multiple
>
> I think it's useful to differentiate/subdivide areas where there are
> noticeable changes in landuse: don't be too enthusiastic abo
2010/8/10 Pieren :
>> How is this different from every residential street in North America?
>>
>
> I don't know for US. I just say for what it was originally created in
> Europe. When I say the max speed is smaller, it's really smaller. See the
> defaults per country:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.or
2010/8/10 Alan Mintz :
> After discussing this a while ago on the list, I'm also using other
> source: / source_ref: pairs for various keys :
>
> maxspeed
> maxspeed:children_present
> maxspeed:hgv
> maxweight
> maxheight
> bicycle
> cycleway
> lanes
for source:maxspeed there is already documenta
2010/8/15 Cartinus :
> With landuse=mixed you basically know nothing, except that there should be
> multiple values. You don't even know if it is a build-up area as there are
> enough landuse values that deal with the countryside.
IMHO mixed landuse is neither residential or commercial but it is
2010/8/15 Vincent Pottier :
> During the preparation of the big import of CLC [1], we have got the two
> codes 1.1.1 (Continuous urban fabric) and 1.1.2 (Discontinuous urban
> fabric). We have mixed them on the same tag landuse=residential.
didn't you use a subtag for continuous/discontinuous? Co
2010/8/15 Vincent Pottier :
>> IMHO not all continuous urban fabrics are centres, or I don't get the
>> meaning of this term according to my unsufficient English.
>>
>
> You are right ! They are, also in Besançon, 'centers' in suburbs.
The term "continuous urban fabric" is IMHO not referring to a
2010/8/16 Craig Wallace :
> On 15/08/2010 22:30, John Smith wrote:
>> I'm not sure this is the best way to do things, what do others think?
> If its vacant, then its not a shop, so shouldn't be tagged as such.
IMHO a shop is a shop because it is officially commercial space (and
not residential),
2010/8/16 Nathan Edgars II :
> Perhaps building=disused (not shop because it's not a shop when it's
> empty, and disused by analogy with railroads)?
-1, because the shop is usually a small fraction of the building, and
especially for vacant shops I wouldn't expect the whole building to be
disuse
2010/8/16 Steve Bennett :
> It doesn't really fit with my understanding of "bicycle=designated". I
> understand that tag as meaning "yes, bicycles are definitely permitted
> here, and there is signage or legislation to prove it".
actually it was intended to say: this is a piece of way dedicated
e
Am 16. August 2010 16:31 schrieb Matthias Meißer :
> I checked the current german map feature list and noticed a lot few features
> and key that are new but non proposed. I beg the authors to move them out of
> the list back to the proposed features.
this might not in all cases be justified. Actu
2010/8/16 Anthony :
> As a side-effect, it also makes it explicit that bicycles are allowed.
-
As an European I am interested in this: aren't they allowed on any
non-highway/freeway/interstate unless explicitly forbidden?
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Am 16. August 2010 18:09 schrieb Matthias Meißer :
> central space and some guidelines. You already see the lack of voters, just
> cause it's to decentral communication atm.
RFC and voting start are announced on talk-list and often on some
local lists as well. I fear that the lack of voting contr
2010/8/16 Tom Chance :
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/power_type
>
> Basically I have deprecated "power_type=photovoltaic" and
> "power_type=solar-thermal", which combine two bits of information (source of
> energy, and type of energy generated). This also allows for adequat
2010/8/16 Emilie Laffray :
> On 16 August 2010 20:22, John Smith wrote:
>> On 17 August 2010 05:15, Andreas Labres wrote:
>> > Proposal:
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Dancing_school
nice
>> I'm wondering if a sub-tag would be more useful, eg
>>
>> amenity=school
>
2010/8/16 John Smith :
>> school=truck_driving
>
> school=driving
> driving:type=[car|truck|bike]
what about school=dolphins for a school of dolphins? Or hospital=tree
nursery? IMHO we shouldn't create our categories/keys only based on
language which might sometimes be ambiguous or misleading.
c
2010/8/17 John Smith :
> On 17 August 2010 08:24, Ulf Lamping wrote:
>> What is the benefit to put this all under amenity=school - and then have a
>> tag no renderer actually can use, because it is far too generic?
>
> The benefit is an existing tag that isn't very specific, so we could
> imply th
2010/8/16 André Riedel :
> But it would be good to propose a tag for heat plants or smaller block
> heating stations.
it is there. In the wiki.
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2010/8/17 John Smith :
> On 17 August 2010 08:53, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> it doesn't change the good point Ulf made: a potential data consumer
>> would have to know all school types for a pleasant results. Currently
>
> That's actually a reason to sub-tag,
2010/8/17 Craig Wallace :
> Though from what you describe, it sounds more like its just one shop - ie
> all operated by the same company, and with just one set of checkouts etc -
> but just calling itself a "farmers market"?
> In which case, I would suggest tagging it as shop=greengrocer (if its mo
2010/8/17 Michael Barabanov :
> Seems like double work to me. Ross's suggestion may just work. If there're
> no objections, I'll update the wiki.
There is already a proposal for this kind of stuff, which would be
possible to apply here as well:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_featur
2010/8/17 John Smith :
> You were the one complaining about amenity=school being widely used so
> we should sub-tag it, I don't think we should do any of the above for
> similar reasons, leave the restriction stuff alone and dump
> dates/times into their own key pair.
>
> restriction=no_right_turn
2010/8/17 John Smith :
> On 17 August 2010 23:44, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> Oops, so sorry, I wasn't aware that there is already a time syntax in
>> the restrictions relation :(
>
> I your suggestion conflicts with the restriction=* values, so any
> existing soft
2010/8/17 Sebastian Klein :
> I don't really like the Extended_conditions_for_access_tags proposal for
> reasons mentioned in the above sites and their talk pages. Basically it
> violates (or gives up) the principle that keys are simple atomic identifiers
> that you can query without regexes and th
2010/8/17 John Smith :
> I'm not talking about hour_on, I'm talking specifically about your suggestion:
>
>> restriction=[6:00-9:00;15:00-18:00]only_right_turn
>
> Which breaks restriction=*
IMHO it doesn't. It is justified that a restriction that is valid
_only 6-9 or 15-18_ doesn't look the sam
2010/8/17 John Smith :
> Your suggestion would require a regex, the time information should be
> in it's own key to prevent this.
I'm not a programmer but I think that some substring-parsing would be
sufficient (do you mean this?). For the evaluation of the term you
will in all cases need a rege
2010/8/17 John Smith :
> On 18 August 2010 00:03, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> 2010/8/17 John Smith :
>>> I'm not talking about hour_on, I'm talking specifically about your
>>> suggestion:
>>>
>>>> restriction=[6:00-9:00;15
2010/8/17 John Smith :
> That's the point, if you are looking for a limited set of values you
> can do a complete match, you don't need to try and do anything as
> complex or resource intensive as a regular expression *UNLESS* you
> know explicitly that key would need to be parsed in that manner, s
2010/8/17 André Riedel :
>> power=generator (the starting point)
>
> Please do not mix the "power"-tag for generating electricity with
> other sources of energy like steam, vacuum, heat and so on.
why not? Isn't that all power?
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2010/8/18 Steve Bennett :
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:30 AM, John Smith wrote:
> I think I'd prefer shop=no personally, in an effort to reduce all the
> synonyms for "nothing" that software developers have to manage.
I don't think that this is a good idea. An empty shop is still a shop,
so shop=
2010/8/18 John Smith :
> There is a lot of amenity=fast_food places tagged, I wonder how many
> tag the cuisine properly. In this case the name/brand alone is usually
> significant for people to deduce the cuisine, I'm guessing a name like
> "Bay City Bike" (first result on Google) would kind of gi
2010/8/17 Alan Mintz :
> At 2010-08-17 12:08, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
>>
>> I know that there are some bike lanes on the left side, but is there
>> any real benefit to tagging cycleway:right=lane rather than
>> cycleway=lane when you have a bike lane on the right side of a one-way
>> street?
>
> As
2010/8/19 Steve Bennett :
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:48 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> I don't think that this is a good idea. An empty shop is still a shop,
>> so shop=no is simply wrong.
>
> IMHO, for the scope of OSM (producing maps)
what kind of maps? Y
2010/8/19 Steve Bennett :
> A single cycle lane which can be ridden in both directions:
> oneway=yes
> cycleway=opposite_lane
> (or cycleway:right=opposite_lane for more precision)
but doesn't this not just reduce the bike traffic to the opposite
direction? Would you say that the oneway direction
2010/8/19 Craig Wallace :
>> IMHO a shop is a shop because it is officially commercial space (and
>> not residential), it has a separate entrance (usually from the
>> street), it has appropriate windows, etc. Of course there might be
>> exceptions, but I think you get it.
>
> I disagree. A shop is
2010/8/19 Anthony :
> between HSBC and its ATMs. It is an exclusive relation - an address
> only refers to one streeet.
that's not always true. I know of a Pizza take away which is at the
corner of a block, it has two addresses (one on each road), but is
just one small place, not 2.
cheers,
Mar
2010/8/20 Steve Bennett :
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:32 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> but doesn't this not just reduce the bike traffic to the opposite
>> direction? Would you say that the oneway direction is already
>> implicit?
>
> cycleway=oppos
2010/8/23 Peteris Krisjanis :
> Hi!
>
> I'm tagging my hometown and saw that Map features doesn't have any tag
> to mark open air stages. I know lot of open air stages are one time
> effort (for example, festivals), but there are lot of permanent ones
> (made of stone, wood, etc.), especially in Eu
2010/8/22 Claudius Henrichs :
> tourism=artwork
> + artwork_type=sculpture
because of the quote above I'm raising the question: is tourism a good
top-category? I think in many cases it is not. Even hotels are only
sometimes related to tourism, while others are related to business.
The wiki stat
2010/8/23 Nathan Edgars II :
> Hell no. That would be a parking lane, not suitable for cycling.
> Picture a typical bike lane; now remove all signage and markings
> calling it a bike lane. Here's an example:
> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.332798,-81.491435&spn=0.001929,0.00515&t=k&z=19&layer=c
> 2010/8/23 Nathan Edgars II :
>> Hell no. That would be a parking lane, not suitable for cycling.
>> Picture a typical bike lane; now remove all signage and markings
>> calling it a bike lane. Here's an example:
>> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.332798,-81.491435&spn=0.001929,0.00515&t=k&z=19&l
2010/8/23 Peteris Krisjanis :
> 2010/8/23 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer :
>> 2010/8/22 Claudius Henrichs :
>> I'd very much like to see a toplevel-tag cultural (and probably
>> another one accomodation).
> In fact, culture is so overwhelmingly general word, that it can be
>
2010/8/23 Peteris Krisjanis :
> Ok, I went with building=bandstand.
>
> Anyone for creating proposal feature or edit it stright down in Map features?
you don't need a proposal for user-defined building tags. They are
IMHO on the other hand not what you really want. An openair-arena is
more than j
2010/8/23 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer :
> Also the ones I was pointing to were IMHO far too big to be called
> bandstands.
some pictures here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berliner_Waldb%C3%BChne
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindl-B%C3%BChne_Wuhlheide
cheers,
2010/8/23 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:02 AM, André Riedel wrote:
>> You will find residential roads in
>> residental, commercial or industrial areas.
>
> This seems very wrong to me. Can I get input from others?
+1, I agree with André that unclassified roads can IMHO be found
2010/8/23 André Riedel :
> I see a difference in the connection level: (top->down)
> ... tertiary -> unclassified -> residential -> service ...
+1
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2010/8/23 John F. Eldredge :
> I can understand the need for distinction, however. Many suburban areas have
> the streets laid out in a tree structure, rather than a grid. The feeder
> streets that are the main routes into and out of the neighborhoods have
> residences along them, but generall
2010/8/23 Alex Mauer :
> He’s not talking about the sidewalk. He’s talking about the “cycle”
> lane. I think this link may work to show it explicitly:
> http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&layer=c&cbll=28.332797,-81.491264&panoid=s34bEpDWqe-ThdTF0X38uQ&cbp=12,132,,2,18.46&ie=UTF8&hq=&ll=28.332798,-81
How do you use the key ele for water covered areas like lakes?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ele
I think I would use it to tag the height of the ground (solid) part,
and not the water surface, because this is what I would expect a
terrain model would display.
On the other hand for glacie
2010/8/24 Alan Mintz :
> I would expect the opposite - the elevation of the water surface above "sea
> level". It appears that Google Earth does it this way (e.g. Lake Arrowhead ~
> 34.258476, -117.182861).
If you look at other maps e.g. here:
http://mappery.com/Elevation-Contours-of-Lake-Okeecho
2010/8/24 Liz :
> You have happily broken one of the written rules - tagging something so that
> it renders
+1
> Did you consider a request for a new icon and a render of that icon for the
> statue?
personally I think that tourism=artwork is quite a bad tag. Art is in
no way more related to t
2010/8/24 Peter Körner :
>> - Is heating_engineer really different from hvac?
> I'm not a native speaker so I'll take your hints as they come. Regarding the
> difference between heating_engineer and hvac I'm not sure, too, but I know
> crafts that only installs air conditioner but not heater. They
2010/8/24 Élisée Reclus :
> Am 24.08.2010 10:08, schrieb Peter Körner:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/Key:craft
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:MaZderMind/DE:Key:craft
>
> Are artists, computer experts, fashion designers, funeral directors and
> photographers reall
2010/8/24 Pieren :
> We need a better definition. A baker or a restaurant could also belong to
> that category but I still prefer 'shop' for baker and 'amenity' for
> restaurant..
I think we need both: shop=bakery and craft=bakery. The latter is
producing, the first only selling (or finishing ind
2010/8/24 Peter Körner :
> I'd like Élisée Reclus proposal better: if it sells something to end
> customers is a shop and not a craft.
>
> What do you think about that?
+1 that if it sells it is a shop
-1 that it cannot be a craft at the same time.
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2010/8/24 Simon Ward :
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:28:53PM +0200, Simone Saviolo wrote:
>> A sculptor (and an art gallery, often) ultimately hopes to sell his
>> artwork. By that criterion, nothing would be cratfsmanship.
>
> Heh, well, that probably goes for very many sculptors (and art
> galleri
2010/8/25 John F. Eldredge :
> How would you tag a restaurant that sells food for take-away, but doesn't
> have any tables for customers to sit and eat on the premises? For example,
> there is a chain of barbecue restaurants here in Nashville, TN, USA, that
> generally does carry-out business o
2010/8/25 John F. Eldredge :
> The borderline between the more beautiful craft objects and fine art is
>sometimes a bit blurry.
yes, sure.
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2010/8/25 John F. Eldredge :
> "Food delivery" and "meals on wheels" both imply that the food is brought to
> the customers. I am talking about an establishment in a fixed location,
> having a kitchen but little or no provision for customers to eat on the
> premises. The customers are expected
2010/8/25 Peter Körner :
> service=engineer_agency
> engineer=heating
looking again at this I don't really like it, because we already have
service for highways (service=alley/parking_aisle/driveway, ...)
I'd prefer office=heating_engineer
or maybe office=engineer(ing)
engineer=heating
(but ther
2010/8/25 John F. Eldredge :
> Most examples of an establishment having a kitchen, but no provision for
> customers to eat on the premises, would fall under the fast-food category,
> but not all. For example, there is a small Chinese restaurant in the central
> business district of Nashville, k
2010/8/26 Tom Chance :
>> The word 'generator:' is better than 'power:', but it is still not
>> easy for me to tag a heating (only) station with power=generator.
>> Which rating should be tagged if it is a cogenerating plant?
>> Electricity only? Heat and Electricity?
>
> That's a good point. It k
2010/8/26 Pieren :
> n Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Cartinus wrote:
>> On Thursday 26 August 2010 12:34:26 Maarten Deen wrote:
>> > That is not how it is described in the wiki:
>> Then the wiki is wrong.
I agree with Cartinus here: the wiki is wrong. Path is not necessary
for non-motorized vehic
2010/8/26 Peter Wendorff :
> awaiting your comments
Have a look at the proposed area-relation (if you have questions - the
proposal is halfway finished - feel free to raise them, I have some
more ideas / clarifications I didn't yet write down). I would then map
the sidewalk at the "outer" border
pushing to tagging
2010/8/27 John Smith :
> On 27 August 2010 09:31, Stephen Hope wrote:
>> How about a church run unemployed support centre? (gives out food,
>
> This could border on the absurd...
+1
IMHO all those charity (or other) services run by religious
institutions should not be tagged
2010/8/27 Peter Wendorff :
> As the sidewalk is defined as part of the street, not another way, it is
> named in my interpretation.
> Your argument counts, if you say the same for the street itself.
> To be precise we would have to set no name to the street, too and add some
> kind of relation carr
2010/8/27 Tom Chance :
>> the suggested semicolon for combinations is never evaluated by any
>> application (AFAIK).
>>
>
> I have been told two different things, now. Do we use semicolons or not?
we "use" semicolons in cases where 2 values have to be assigned to one
key, but it is not beeing ev
2010/8/27 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:44 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> I'm still in favour of landuse=institutional with subtagging for
>> governments, NGOs, international organisations, religous institutions.
>
> We could slowly get rid of a
2010/8/27 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Pieren wrote:
>> is that okay if I modify the wiki page and suggest to use
>> "tunnel=culvert" (and "ford=culvert" / "bridge=culvert") instead of the
>> ambivalent "culvert=yes" ?
>
> I'd like to know what ford=culvert means first.
2010/8/27 Nathan Edgars II :
> Bridge=culvert would be the same as tunnel=culvert but applied to the
> way going over rather than under. It treats a culvert as a kind of
> bridge, like bridge=suspension or bridge=bascule.
I see. I don't like it because it would mean tagging a property of the
wate
2010/8/27 Pieren :
> My proposal is to change the wiki to tunnel=culvert (then forget the
> bridge/ford).
+1, fine for me. Tag it on the waterway-way. If there is a bridge over
it, or a ford etc., tag this on the road as usual.
> At least, this would make live easier for data consumers which
>
2010/8/27 Anthony :
> I'd like to know whether I can walk on a sidewalk, or walk on the
> grass in the right of way next to the road, or walk on the road, or
> not walk there at all. Each is a different situation which I'd be
> willing to do under different circumstances.
I agree on this, but it
2010/8/27 Alberto Nogaro :
>>-1. "no" is too strong: pedestrians are never forbidden to go on a
>>road (except for motorways, at least in Italy).
>
> Not really. In Italy pedestrians are forbidden to walk on any road, when
> paths (such as sidewalks) designated for pedestrians are available. They a
2010/8/27 Alberto Nogaro :
> Not really. In Italy pedestrians are forbidden to walk on any road, when
> paths (such as sidewalks) designated for pedestrians are available.
btw.: there is also strange cases where it seems to me that the
existing signage doesn't represent the authorities will to re
2010/8/27 Simone Saviolo :
> As to bikes, the restriction applies. The signal forbids transit to
> any vehicle, with or without an engine, so bycycles are included.
yes, I know, you have to dismount (that's why I wrote "push")
> As to pedestrians, I seem to understand there's a separate footway
2010/8/27 Richard Welty :
> ??
>
> amenity=billiards
> amenity=pool_hall
>
> any suggestions?
sport? leisure?
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2010/8/27 Richard Welty :
> ??
>
> office=broadcasting
>
> any other suggestions?
it's not an office. Sorry that I am not helpful with a better
suggestion, but definitely not office IMHO. At least for the technical
part (studio).
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2010/8/28 John Smith :
> On 27 August 2010 23:34, Peter Körner wrote:
>> why exactly do you want to convert a widely used tag (amenity=sauna, ~1000
>> uses)
>
> I wouldn't exactly say 1000 uses is widely used... A handful of
> mappers, or perhaps even a single mapper, is capable of doing more
> th
2010/8/28 John Smith :
> On 28 August 2010 03:31, Richard Welty wrote:
>> i just found amenity=studio which will do, although i still
>> thing office=broadcasting might be helpful to identify
>> the business office side.
>
> If you want to be picky, count the rooms... Is there more offices or
> mo
2010/8/28 Anthony :
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:56 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> if there is no footway, it shouldn't be tagged as such.
>
> Agreed. But what is a footway? The dictionary says it's "a narrow
> way or path for pedestrians"
2010/8/28 John Smith :
> On 28 August 2010 18:58, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> I can hardly imagine a single mapper (or even a small group) mapping
>> more than 1000 saunas, but this is maybe due to the area I'm living
>> in, where there are few of them.
>
> If
2010/8/28 Xan :
> Hi,
> I made a new proposal of natural_protection tag (section new proposal of
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Key:natural_protection).
>
> Can you comment it? I'm still a newbee so before making a definitive
> proposed page, I want to know your opinion
Am 29. August 2010 11:05 schrieb Matthias Meißer :
> So how do you design a tag in a team without the proposal process?
you find something that is not yet documented on the wiki and ask on
the mailing list. If you propose something, discuss it on the mailing
list.
You can also simply use a tag.
2010/8/29 Nathan Edgars II :
> Is there a way to distinguish an older gnarly tree suitable for
> climbing from a recently-planted tree?
I would use height and the circumference of the trunk (usually
measured at 1 metre or 1.3 metres above ground) to give an
approximation. You can also tag the age
2010/8/29 Nathan Edgars II :
> culvert=yes is ambiguous: does it refer to the object on top or
> underneath?
our tags refer to the object they are associated with. Simple like
that, isn't it?
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Am 30. August 2010 08:08 schrieb Matthias Meißer :
>> multitude of options to choose from
>
>
> Yes ok but the problem with this options is that the brainstorming process
> is so distributed and for every channel you need logon etc. For me for
> example I dont like mailinglists that much just caus
2010/8/29 Pieren :
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Nathan Edgars II
> wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps a site relation? I'm not sure it's necessary; any application
>> that needs that information can calculate whether the polygons
>> overlap.
>>
>
> Yes, the topology shows what is "inside" or "outside" th
2010/8/30 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:47 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> 2010/8/29 Nathan Edgars II :
>>> culvert=yes is ambiguous: does it refer to the object on top or
>>> underneath?
>>
>>
>> our tags refer to the obje
2010/8/30 Steve Bennett :
> Yep. Polygon collisions can also be accidental, like when two objects
> from slightly different sources (say one gps, one aerial imagery) are
> near each other.
I'd consider this mapping failure actually. More than believing in
gps- and imagery-precision the mapper sho
2010/8/30 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer :
>> - "these objects express the same thing as that object but in more
>> detail" (eg, one line representing a pair or more of train lines)
in this actual example you don't need relations but can do as with
streets (lanes-tag). I&#x
2010/8/30 Steve Bennett :
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:29 AM, Richard Welty wrote:
>>
>>
>> Weight Watchers?
>>
>> Dale Carnegie Training?
>>
>> Arthur Murray Dance Studio?
>
> OSM is not setting out to build an ontology of business types. Does that help?
why not? OSM is setting out to build an o
2010/8/30 Pieren :
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Colin Smale wrote:
>>
>> But France and Slovakia for example don't seem to have a single relation
>> as a starting point.
>>
>
> There is the one for France (land_area):
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/11980
just a lateral not
2010/8/30 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:08 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> Can you show me the example? I don't understand "structure" and I
>> would like to know, which kind of "way" it is (what are the other
>> tags?).
>
2010/8/30 Anthony :
>> The definition you quoted said: "way or path". In the aerial images
>> posted here there was neither of them. If was just grass. No way.
>
> I'm not sure which aerial you're referring, but I also don't see why a
> strip of grass wouldn't qualify as a "way or path".
http://ww
2010/8/31 Anthony :
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=-34.854348,138.535446&sll=28.0725,-82.548614&sspn=0.010981,0.01472&ie=UTF8&ll=-34.854396,138.535563&spn=0.000638,0.00092&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=-34.854406,138.535454&panoid=A6Al6CHbuWxD2rMFncHI3A&cbp=12,354.25,,0,21.14
2010/8/31 Anthony :
> Huh? You realize this is the same location as your aerial, right?
> The aerial which you said showed no footway, and the google street
> view which you say does have the same lat/lon.
yes, you can see that arthur st/wastell ct. in the east has an
informal footway (the one o
2010/8/31 Nathan Edgars II :
>> Oops it's not lost. It's on the waterway=river and waterway=stream wiki
>> pages.
>
> So how do you specify that (a) you mapped a waterway but don't know
> the direction of flow, (b) it's a stagnant channel with no real flow,
> or (c) it's an artificial drainage can
2010/8/31 Tom Chance :
> Based on this discussion, it seems that the best advice to put on my
> proposal for power generators is:
>
> - use site relations where the power=generator objects don't obviously
> overlap with the buildings they relate to, particularly where you are
> dealing with a clust
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Ross Scanlon wrote:
>> motorway,motorway_lin
>>
>> In both the direction of the way means something withou another tag being
>> added. However most add oneway=yes to these.
also in junction=roundabout. Personally I also map steps in a way that
the point from
2010/8/31 Nathan Edgars II :
> Perhaps you can explain how I or anyone else will determine the
> direction of this waterway: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=73765043
> Should I ask one of the residents if I can go into their backyard and
> dump food coloring in the water?
If the direction of a
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