Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

2020-06-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:50 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > > I don't map special-purpose administrative districts, of which New > York has a whole menagerie. I don't object if others do, but don't try > to fit them into the boundary=administrative hierarchy. They don't > go. In New York, the admin_lev

Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-04 Thread Clifford Snow
Don't we already have https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Photo_linking which is how to add photos for objects? -- @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists

Re: [Tagging] Do we map pedestrian crossings twice?

2020-06-10 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 8:44 AM Jack Armstrong wrote: > Thank you, Andrew, > > According to the "Sidewalk as a separate way" proposal, which was approved > in 2011, > > When a highway=crossing node is present on the main road, a way connecting > the sidewalks on the two sides of the road should b

Re: [Tagging] Do we map pedestrian crossings twice?

2020-06-10 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:59 AM Jack Armstrong wrote: > > From: Clifford Snow > > > Before changing the wiki, I'd like a clearer understanding of your > proposed change. As I read this the node is placed on the highway to tell > cars that some type of crossing is

Re: [Tagging] Do we map pedestrian crossings twice?

2020-06-10 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 1:16 PM Jack Armstrong wrote: > From: Clifford Snow > To help me understand, below are three schemes for crossings. Which one(s) > best describe your suggested way of mapping. > > 1. Tagging both the crossing and a node on the highway. > https://mycl

Re: [Tagging] Do we map pedestrian crossings twice?

2020-06-10 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 1:55 PM Jack Armstrong wrote: > > From: Clifford Snow > > If we were to follow your logic, then every level crossing at the > intersection of railways and highways should not be tagged as a > level_crossing because of the rule "one feature, one O

Re: [Tagging] Do we map pedestrian crossings twice?

2020-06-10 Thread Clifford Snow
Jack - can you live with Martin's point? On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 2:36 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 10. Jun 2020, at 23:28, Clifford Snow > wrote: > > > > I would suggest that the one feature per element page needs to i

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a graffiti?

2020-07-01 Thread Clifford Snow
When I lived in a suburb of Minneapolis, we had this bridge that everyone graffitied. Some of it was typical trash, but others were works of art, including Prince on a motorcycle. About the same time out came Prince's album, Graffiti Bridge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_Bridge_(album) The

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - junction=intersection

2020-07-10 Thread Clifford Snow
Matthew, Interesting suggestion. The sumo github page doesn't appear to have any open issues that involve OSM and intersections that I could find. (I only looked at intersection issue titles) Has this been reported to the sumo developers? Sumo documentation does suggest fixing OSM issues but other

Re: [Tagging] TRAVEL_DIR (and other fields) in shapefile?

2020-07-24 Thread Clifford Snow
According to the metadata, Travel direction is a representation where addresses increase. For intertate travel direction is a representation where mile post markers increase. https://www.arcgis.com/sharing/rest/content/items/6339aa3ce01e4d249bd611917f86c0e7/info/metadata/metadata.xml?format=defaul

Re: [Tagging] kerb=regular vs. raised

2020-07-29 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:57 AM Supaplex wrote: > I started mapping detailed sidewalk information in my area, including > crossing and kerb information. It seems that there is a lack of clarity in > the differentiation between raised and regular ("normal", neither lowered > nor raised) kerbs. "k

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-07-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:54 AM Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > The nearest problem case to me is Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of > the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy that straddles > the US-Canadian border, and whose government is recognized by neither > state. The political situat

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-07-31 Thread Clifford Snow
Paul, Do you have any website or contact info for the tribe? There are a number of websites but not sure exactly which one. Although it be nice to get them all added. Clifford On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 7:17 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 6:59 PM Clifford Snow

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Clifford Snow
daries well to get a solid cut on this and I'm not entirely sure > how to reach out. > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 9:52 PM Clifford Snow > wrote: > >> Paul, >> Do you have any website or contact info for the tribe? There are a number >> of websites but not

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 12:27 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 2:25 PM Clifford Snow > wrote: > >> After some digging, it appears that Saint Regis Mohawk Indian Territory >> is in OSM. Just across the border, on a Saint Lawrence River island, i

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 2:28 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley wrote: > >> >> So I think the current tagging makes sense. Though I wonder if places >> like these qualify as disputed territory. After all, the US and Canada have >> a nation-to-nation relationship

Re: [Tagging] Ahkwesáhsne, a territory of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Was:Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

2020-08-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:09 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 5:29 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 3:09 PM Clay Smalley >> wrote: >> >>> Chiming in as another settler. I really wish we had more Natives active >>> on OSM contributing their cultural knowledge.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - kerb=regular

2020-08-20 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 2:33 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Worth mentioning that the proposal intends to redefine the tag kerb=raised > , true? > Martin - does that suggest that over 12,000 existing raised kerbs will need to be resurveyed? I've done hundreds of raised curbs in my county. While

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread Clifford Snow
osmcha.org picks up the review request. Their interface makes it easy to view and post a comment back to the user. On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:53, Cj Malone < > me-osm-tagg...@keepawayfromfire.co.uk> wrote: > >> 1 - It was introduce

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-23 Thread Clifford Snow
I watch flagged changesets in my state, all changesets in my county and all changesets by people I've flagged to watch. I review all edits of new mappers to offer them tips if needed. For flagged changesets in the state and all changesets in my county I review ones that seem interesting. If they r

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

2020-08-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 10:40 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 at 15:27, Clifford Snow > wrote: > >> I watch flagged changesets in my state, all changesets in my county and >> all changesets by people I've flagged to watch. I review all edits

Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

2020-09-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 2:46 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > I must admit that I only do crossings as =traffic_signals; =marked (by > itself) for zebra crossings; & =unmarked where there is provision to cross > the road but no signage or roadway markings on any sort. > > > I do crossings as

Re: [Tagging] automated edits seem to remove crossing=zebra drastically

2020-09-17 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:08 AM Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > > I agree that the current presets available in JOSM are a bit of a botch, > particularly "uncontrolled" for crossings technically controlled by a > sign. "Marked" may be better but we still have the issue of changing a > lot of previously t

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

2020-09-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:03 PM Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Mapping of sidewalks/sidepaths as part of the main road has all kinds of > problems, like width and surface tagging, the relative position of foot and > cycle paths, not to talk about roads like this >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Chapel of rest)

2020-09-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 5:42 AM Paul Allen wrote: > I am a native speaker but don't have any recent experience of attending > a funeral. However, the term currently preferred by funeral directors is > "chapel of rest." See > > https://www.funeralguide.co.uk/help-resources/arranging-a-funeral/wh

Re: [Tagging] Large fire perimeter tagging?

2020-09-24 Thread Clifford Snow
Steve, Just a reminder, landuse is to tag what the land is used for. landuse=forest is for areas that have harvestable wood products, ie trees. Just because there was a fire doesn't mean the landuse changes. Landcover is a better tag for burnt areas as well as areas just clearcut. On Thu, Sep 24

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Large fire perimeter tagging?

2020-09-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 12:46 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > landuse=forest is used to tag tree covered area, not for how land is used > I don't believe everyone around here will agree with that interpretation. I live in an area with significant logging. Ty

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Large fire perimeter tagging?

2020-09-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 7:24 AM Clifford Snow wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 12:46 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> landuse=forest is used to tag tree covered area, not for how land is used >> > > I don&#x

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Large fire perimeter tagging?

2020-09-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 3:30 PM Yves wrote: > > > Le 27 septembre 2020 21:43:31 GMT+02:00, Peter Elderson < > pelder...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > >The idea that natural=wood is for natural woods and landuse=forest is for > >managed forests has too little practical support. > > Yet, this is one of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Clifford Snow
I use the tag shop=farm. It's been around for a while. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfarm -- @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.ope

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 4:31 PM Paul Allen wrote: > >> I would say not, by my understanding of the term. But I can't guarantee > my understanding matches general UK usage. However, if we count that > as a farm shop then the term essentially becomes an alias of greengrocer. > A greengrocer with a

Re: [Tagging] Should the tag proposal process force voters to vote for an option?

2020-10-12 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 3:20 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > I wrote about changing from a for/against vote to a pick your preferred > option at https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aharvey/diary/394419 > > Interested to hear what others think about this. > Andrew, This doesn't really answer your questi

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

2020-11-12 Thread Clifford Snow
Out of curiosity I decided to look at how USGS defines lakes and ponds after noticing that their Feature Code is listed as lake/pond. Here is how they define the two, as well as rivers and streams and mountains and hills. *There are no official definitions for generic terms as applied to geo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - crossing=priority

2020-12-13 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 11:26 AM ipswichmapper--- via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/crossing%3Dpriority > > > Here is my first proposal for a ta

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reservoirs, lakes, and ponds

2020-12-20 Thread Clifford Snow
Tomas, Please refrain from calling out others as outlined in the Etiquette Guidelines [1] [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette Best, Clifford On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 12:38 PM Tomas Straupis wrote: > 2020-12-20, sk, 17:59 Paul Allen rašė: > > Too late, at least for iD. Its authors

Re: [Tagging] Lyft and nameless sectioning in OSM

2022-10-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 12:05 PM Evan Carroll wrote: > > For all of these cases, when "Zone" isn't established by law I see no > value. I think this would be a good place to start. But I'm also interested > in knowing Lyft's motivations behinds these Zones and I assume they're on > the list or so

Re: [Tagging] Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 9:07 AM Andy Townsend wrote: > On 15/08/2019 14:26, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > How about "craft=artist" then? The tag "craft=atelier" was described > > as for any type of artist: "workshop of a ...professional artist in > > the fine or decorative arts" > > "craft=artist"

Re: [Tagging] Artists studios, WAS Re: Keys to which new values can be added without a proposal: craft=, shop=, building=, office=, sport=?

2019-08-15 Thread Clifford Snow
ists” into different values, let alone different keys. > > > Some artists can copy, some cannot copy. It is a skill. Many who copy can > also originate. > > > -Joseph > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 9:37 AM Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >

Re: [Tagging] craft=sculpter <> craft=sculptor

2019-08-30 Thread Clifford Snow
It looks like just a misspelling of sculptor. OR and ER are commonly used to describe a person or thing doing something. As far I can see, British English would spell it as sculptor. Best, Clifford On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 5:17 AM marc marc wrote: > Hello, > > does both have the same meaning ?

Re: [Tagging] How to tag pedestrian lanes?

2019-10-20 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm not familiar with the laws of the country the picture [1] listed in the first post on this thread, but the diagonal yellow lines look to me like a don't park here rather than a sidewalk. Even the one pedestrian in the picture isn't walking the diagonal yellow lines. Can someone confirm that tho

[Tagging] Proposal: Access Aisle

2019-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
I'd like to propose a tagging scheme to tag parking lot access aisle. Access aisles are marked areas often used between handicap parking spaces but also used to indicate pedestrian access between parking spaces. The proposal can be found on the wiki [1] [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pro

Re: [Tagging] Tagging estuaries: estuary=yes or river=estuary?

2019-10-25 Thread Clifford Snow
Looking at the US NHD estuary is broadly defined. For example, The Skagit River flows through my county into the Puget Sound in Washington State. I would expect the delta area, where it empties into the sound to be defined as an estuary. And it is. But apparently so is the whole of Puget Sound. Th

Re: [Tagging] Tagging estuaries: estuary=yes or river=estuary?

2019-10-26 Thread Clifford Snow
derstand how that tag is being used currently. But > I wasn't able to find anything. > > Thanks for your help. > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 9:29 AM Clifford Snow > wrote: > >> Looking at the US NHD estuary is broadly defined. For example, The Skagit >> River flows thro

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Access Aisle

2019-10-28 Thread Clifford Snow
Thanks for all the comments. SomeoneElse wrote on the proposal talk page: The page currently uses both "handicap" and "disabled"; I'd suggest using "disabled" throughout (see e.g. https://www.gov.uk/apply-blue-badge ) as that's the terminology used in UK versions of English. I'm not exactly sure w

Re: [Tagging] Tagging estuaries: estuary=yes or river=estuary?

2019-10-28 Thread Clifford Snow
A friend, who works in this area of research, pointed me to an easy to read article [1] on estuaries. According to the article there are five types of estuaries based on their geology, coastal plain, bar-built, deltas, tectonic and fjords. (Note I'm skipping the classification based on water circul

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Pedestrian lane

2019-11-02 Thread Clifford Snow
Markus, I like your proposal but think it needs to clarify the difference between a pedestrian lane and a shoulder [1]. In the US, most (many?) states allow pedestrians to walk on shoulders if there is no sidewalk/footway, with the exception of motorways. How would a mapper know if this is a should

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

2019-11-07 Thread Clifford Snow
Every time I've contacted one of the Amazon's team, they have responded and taken responsibility to update their edits. We should first try to contact them before going through DWG. This thread shows the number of opinions on how to map service roads. BTW my driveway is a shared driveway. I've map

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

2019-11-07 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 1:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On the subject of mapping driveways - do people only map up to the front > fence (especially in suburban areas), or all the way to the garage / house > ie everything visible on aerial imagery? > > I map to the garage to or in the case of

[Tagging] Open Voting on Access Aisle

2019-11-15 Thread Clifford Snow
Since there has been no new discussion and I've modified the proposal to accommodate concerns on the original Draft, I'm opening the proposal up for voting. Please go to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/access_aisle to vote on the proposal. Thanks in advance, Clifford -- @os

Re: [Tagging] Footway Link (was Feature Proposal - RFC - Pedestrian lane)

2019-11-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 2:24 AM Markus wrote: > I use highway=footway + footway=link connect steps and sidewalks to a > road, in order to retain the real length and geometry of the steps or > sidewalks and to indicate that these aren't steps or a sidewalk > anymore, but part of the carriageway of

Re: [Tagging] Open Voting on Access Aisle

2019-11-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:22 PM Alessandro Sarretta < alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There are a couple of things that are not totally clear to me: > >- in general, might these tags apply also to areas, rather than only >ways? > > We already have highway=pedestrian. Are you sug

Re: [Tagging] Open Voting on Access Aisle

2019-11-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 9:38 AM Alessandro Sarretta < alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I've tried to use your tagging system in an area close where I live. You > can find here the way (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/746061718) and > here a picture from Google Streetview ( > https://www

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - footway=link

2019-11-18 Thread Clifford Snow
First off I like this proposal and agree that it be applied more broadly. However there is a difference between a motorway=link (and similar) and a footway=link. A motorway=link is a physical feature unlike a footway=link. A footway=link is more of an attempt to bridge vector representation of a fo

[Tagging] Access Aisle Proposal

2019-12-05 Thread Clifford Snow
I have closed the voting for the Access Aisle Proposal. [1] Final results of the voting are: It was *approved* with 14 votes for, 2 votes against and 1 abstention with an 82% approval. I will start integrating the proposal into the wiki as documented in Proposal Process.[2] The iD developers have

Re: [Tagging] Business names in capital letters

2019-12-14 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:20 AM Markus wrote: > On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 01:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > > > When that is how the business name is shown, what is our policy for it? > > I thought we had a policy for it, but i can't fine one. It's probably > rather an observation that names

[Tagging] eelgrass

2019-12-18 Thread Clifford Snow
How should eelgrass[1] be tagged? I see that wetland=reedbed [2] has been used in tidal areas mainly in Europe but also in the US but they are two different plants. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zostera [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_bed -- @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us OpenStre

Re: [Tagging] eelgrass

2019-12-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 1:00 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Do you have an example of a location which you wish to tag? > Here is what the researchers have documented http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?url=https://services.arcgis.com/6lCKYNJLvwTXqrmp/ArcGIS/rest/services/PBNERR_2004Habi

Re: [Tagging] Active volcanoes

2020-01-24 Thread Clifford Snow
As a person living 50km from an "active" but dormant volcano, Mount Baker [1], I definitely know its status. What I'm not sure of is the OP definition of active. Mount Baker is an active but dormant volcano that only puts out a bit of steam. For a while, in my life time, Arenal in Costa Rica was r

Re: [Tagging] Active volcanoes

2020-01-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 12:42 PM John Willis via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > I think there is a way to make a very simple subtag, such as > > Volcano:active= > No= Considered dead / collapsed > Dormant = 500+ years since last eruption > Quiet = 100 > Recent = 20 > Current = smo

Re: [Tagging] Active volcanoes

2020-01-29 Thread Clifford Snow
Through a friend at the University of Washington I received the following reply: The Global Volcanism Program (GVP) that Steve pointed to you has the most consistently applied standard for classifying volcanoes around the globe. In that context, any volcano that has erupted in the Holocene [1] wou

Re: [Tagging] Active volcanoes

2020-01-29 Thread Clifford Snow
Sent from my Android phone. On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 12:14 PM Jez Nicholson wrote: > Work with Wikidata to link the GVP article to their record on the volcano, > and only have the Wikidata link in OSM. > Any Wikipedians on here want to take this suggestion on? > __

Re: [Tagging] Active volcanoes

2020-01-29 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 12:48 PM Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > Wikidata already has the GVP property: > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1886 > > So it's just a matter of ensuring that all volcanoes tracked by the GVP is > present in Wikidata and has the correct P1886 value. > Can you expl

Re: [Tagging] Active volcanoes

2020-01-29 Thread Clifford Snow
Andy, On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 3:36 PM Andy Townsend wrote: > > I suspect that trying to rely on wikidata/wikipedia for this link will > fail for a different reason though - the things that we tag in OSM won't > necessarily map 1 to 1 onto wikipedia pages. Sometimes an OSMer will > want to indica

Re: [Tagging] Updating definition and description of place=square

2020-03-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:23 PM Paul Allen wrote: > I can think of one US city square which has "square" in the name > (not square shaped, though) that is rather well-known. If you > can't think of it the ball will drop eventually, at midnight on Dec 31st. > > The University of Washington has "

Re: [Tagging] Route names that aren’t names

2020-03-28 Thread Clifford Snow
Richard - and anyone else who can help. Can someone help with an overpass query to find problem route relations? I'm happy to help fix, but my overpass skills are, well to put it bluntly, not worth shit:-) Thanks, Clifford On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:18 AM Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Hello folks

Re: [Tagging] Points vs Polygons

2020-04-19 Thread Clifford Snow
Rob, First welcome to OSM. When adding businesses, I use the convention that if the building holds multiple businesses, then each business is a separate node. If the building only holds on business, then I typically add the business information to the building polygon. Like a McDonalds fast food r

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-05-28 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 3:29 PM Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 23:14, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> >> I agree that it is good example of something on a boundary (assuming that >> both "rails completely gone" and "track of former railway is >

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-29 Thread Clifford Snow
The user, chachafish, with more edits than anyone else I've seen, 162,466, is still adding features. chachafish has a history of commenting on changesets so I would expect you'll get a reply. On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:11 PM Mike Thompson wrote: > I know we just had a similar discussion, but I am

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boundary=aboriginal_lands

2018-11-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 12:58 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 7:40 PM Alan McConchie > wrote: > >> Should we use the single tag boundary=aboriginal_lands for these areas? >> Or should we deprecate that tag (in other words, reject the proposal) and >> instead use boundary=protecte

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

2019-01-10 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 3:49 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Ditches are also used to drain excess water. > > In the USA we have irrigation ditches in dry areas and drainage ditches in > wet areas. > > Joseph - I live in rainy western Washington. We have drainage ditches that are used for both. Drai

Re: [Tagging] man_made=storage_tank for open containers?

2019-02-08 Thread Clifford Snow
I did create new thread about including other features in wastewater treatment facilities. Unfortunately I have been side track on other issues, not necessarily OSM issue, but life in general. I do plan to continue exploring how to tag the various features in wastewater treatment facilities in the

[Tagging] Medicine Disposal

2019-02-14 Thread Clifford Snow
How should sites that offer drop box disposal for unneeded medicine be tagged? Typical locations would include pharmacys, clinics, hospitals, and law enforcement buildings. I've thought about using the tag amenity=waste + waste=medicine Any better suggestions? Thanks in advance, Clifford -- @o

Re: [Tagging] Medicine Disposal

2019-02-14 Thread Clifford Snow
Yes, a typo on my part. Sent from my Android phone. On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:23 PM Martin Koppenhoefer > > > > sent from a phone > > On 15. Feb 2019, at 01:49, Clifford Snow > wrote: > > > > I've thought about using the tag amenity=waste + waste=m

Re: [Tagging] Medicine Disposal

2019-02-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:59 AM Markus wrote: > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019, 01:50 Clifford Snow >> >> I've thought about using the tag amenity=waste + waste=medicine >> > > According to our wiki it's waste=drugs (only 21 uses, but still mor

Re: [Tagging] Medicine Disposal

2019-02-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 2:37 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Here waste boxes for syringes tend to be lables 'sharps' .. I think that > is an Americanizm. Any UK experience? > > I like how this has expanded to include disposal of syringes. The original post was about disposing of unneed

Re: [Tagging] Mapping curb (kerb) lines as the home of curb, parking, etc information

2019-03-04 Thread Clifford Snow
I recall seeing a lightning talk at the 2016 State of the Map US in Seattle about mapping curb lines. Lou Huang gave a talk "Representing streets in OSM with Curblines" [1] which proposed mapping streets from curb to curb as polygons if I recall correctly. (Unfortunately I couldn't find a video of

Re: [Tagging] Mapping curb (kerb) lines as the home of curb, parking, etc information

2019-03-04 Thread Clifford Snow
For anyone interested in listening to Lou Huang's talk, I found it on Youtube. It starts at about 42:00 and ends at 48:00 [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOGsy9BFJ5Y On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:02 PM Nick Bolten wrote: > > Can we please first define a solution (e.g. a relation) for connecting

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal Approved - boundary=aboriginal_lands

2019-03-17 Thread Clifford Snow
; on as a proposal. >> >> >> >> In the intervening years, tagging native reservations with >> boundary=protected_area + protect_class=24 has also gained popularity. This >> tag combination seems to be popular in South America, Australia, and also >> in pa

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of indigenous sacred / ceremonial sites

2019-04-02 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 2:29 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > There has been a recent discussion on the Australia list regarding mapping > of sites that may be considered sacred by the indigenous peoples of that > area > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2019-April/012538.html , > &

[Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

2019-04-29 Thread Clifford Snow
I'd like to add a new tag to highway=footway, footway=access_aisle. An access aisle [1] is the space allowed in parking lots for vans. (Vans that are equipped with a wheelchair ramp.) According to Wikipedia [2] and the Americans with Disabilities Act Handbook, access aisles "shall be part of an ac

Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

2019-05-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:13 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > highway=footway wheelchair=yes ... would be in keeping with present > tagging of wheelchairs in OSM. ??? > wheelchair=yes doesn't capture the specific nature of the access_aisle. Most any footway could be wheelchair=yes, onl

Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

2019-05-01 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > 1 May 2019, 20:11 by cliff...@snowandsnow.us: > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:13 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > highway=footway wheelchair=yes ... would be in keeping with present > tagging of wheelchairs in OSM. ??? > >

Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

2019-05-02 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 7:54 AM Tony Shield wrote: > Hi > > It does appear that 'access aisle' is US and from watching the video and > your picture it is an integral part of a parking_bay or parking_lane for > disabled access. It follows that a parking bay or parking lane tagged for > disabled the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - crossing=marked

2019-05-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:48 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Now we may (yet again!) be getting caught up in the > one-word-different-meanings-worldwide saga, but, in Australia at least, > "zebra" crossings (parallel alternating black & white stripes crossing the > road) are controlled - they sig

Re: [Tagging] How to tag sidewalk slides

2019-05-16 Thread Clifford Snow
I've run into a bunch of similar issues, where they just use asphalt to make an incline to the street level. I've been tagging them as kerb=lowered. It probably isn't exactly correct, but it does tell a wheelchair users that they can reach the street level. (Assuming the incline isn't too steep of

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a site with "Luxury Lodges"

2019-05-23 Thread Clifford Snow
I the US we call them manufactured homes. They are trucked to the site, often split lengthwise into two pieces. Once on site, they place them on a foundation then remove the wheels from underneath. Most are relatively inexpensive to purchase. The real money make is the owner of the land that rents

Re: [Tagging] Filter bubbles in OSM

2019-05-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:01 PM Paul Allen wrote: > > Have you tried running to the teacher? That's a third option you could > try. Tell the teacher that > poopy-head Paul called you a poopy-head and calling people a poopy-head is > bad and that's > why Paul is a poopy-head. > > Now you can cal

Re: [Tagging] Non-orthogonal crossing=* tag proposals: crossing=marked/unmarked vs crossing:markings=yes/no

2019-05-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 6:27 PM Nick Bolten wrote: > Well, now I'm having trouble finding any real regulations saying so, so > take that with a grain of salt. I think someone from Austin, TX told me > that once... > > I believe the primary stated purpose of bars on a crosswalk is increased > visi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of State Parks in the US

2019-08-06 Thread Clifford Snow
I've been following this thread but haven't chimed in yet. I wanted to talk to someone that works in State Parks. I contact Neil Lasley with Washington State Parks and asked him his impression of the discussion and how the state view parks. Here is what he had to say. Good to hear from you! I can

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=cannabis

2018-03-16 Thread Clifford Snow
Russ - Looks good. We have Cannabis shops opening left and right in Washington State. I've only mapped the one I visit but need to get out and "map" the rest. Tough job. Clifford On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:27 PM, wrote: > Greetings tagging list, > > > > I got a little nudge from the community an

Re: [Tagging] Parking Fees

2018-03-23 Thread Clifford Snow
I just parked in the Triangle Parking for the UW Medical Center in Seattle, WA. The first 30 minutes are free. They also have a flat rate after 5pm of $5.00 although it's not listed on their website. https://www.uwmedicine.org/uw-medical-center/campus/directions There are a number of parking lots

Re: [Tagging] no_u_turn restrictions for every entry/exit into a roundabout when the way is split because of physical separation?

2018-04-04 Thread Clifford Snow
I don't see any changeset comments in either of the two you referenced. I would suggest adding a changeset comment to get their attention. You can also look on their github page to see what they are working on. https://github.com/Microsoft/Open-Maps/issues Best, Clifford On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 5

Re: [Tagging] Flower fields as tourism attraction

2018-04-09 Thread Clifford Snow
In John Wills original post he talked about tulip farms. These are tourist attractions around me, but really it's about farming. Around me they plant tulips to harvest the bulbs with a side business of tourism. Farming is different than gardens. Both are valid. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_sea

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Telecom local netwoks

2018-06-09 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 5:57 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Francois > > I'm a little bit confused over some of your definitions? > > You say man_made=telephone_exchange is to be replaced with > telecom=central_office, but then also say that a telecom=central_office "is > a small dedicated technic

Re: [Tagging] A new Tag for "helicopter services"?

2018-06-18 Thread Clifford Snow
office=air_charter should fit. The ones around here offer both fixed wing and helicopter services. With office=air_charter you could also add air_charter=helicopter Clifford On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:06 AM gorgonz wrote: > I'm looking for a tag, that describes an office, that offers helicopter

Re: [Tagging] iD presets

2018-06-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:52 PM Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Tuesday 19 June 2018, Bryan Housel wrote: > <> > > > It’s fine for people to keep tagging these but I probably wouldn't > > add a preset for this in iD. > > While i think i kind of understand your motivation here, that you think > the

Re: [Tagging] Canoe route

2018-06-28 Thread Clifford Snow
Dave, When you add a ferry route, route=ferry to a way it renders. You might want to tag the water route as route=canoe then create a relation that covers the entire route including the water portion and the portaging sections in the overall route? That the strategy used to map highway routes that

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

2018-06-28 Thread Clifford Snow
Have you checked out OpenSeaMap.org and their related wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap? It might get you started. Clifford On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:19 AM Volker Schmidt wrote: > > How to map a nautical channel [1] ? > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_(geography

Re: [Tagging] tagging religion-based access

2018-06-29 Thread Clifford Snow
Another alternative, without having to introduce a new value, would be access=designated. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 11:44 AM Stephen Doerr wrote: > How about: > > amenity=place_of_worship > religion=muslim > access=adherents > > ? > > > On 29 June 2018, at 19:36, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > > >

Re: [Tagging] Canoe route

2018-06-30 Thread Clifford Snow
I'd like to suggest not creating a very specific tag like route=canoe, instead use something more general that would apply to more water crafts like kayaks, small boats, canoes, and rafts. route=marine_trail would be more fitting. Related tag could include motorized=(yes/no). Kayaking around my ar

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