[Tagging] iD news - 2.12.0 released šŸŽ‰

2018-12-09 Thread Bryan Housel
Last week, after several months of work, we released iD v2.12.0 for editing OpenStreetMap. I hope you like it! Here are some of the highlights from the release: āœŒļø 2-finger pan and zoom gestures Mac users can now use 2 finger trackpad gestures to pan and zoom the map. Try swiping with 2 fingers

Re: [Tagging] iD news - 2.12.0 released šŸŽ‰

2018-12-27 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 at 12:14, Bryan Housel <mailto:bhou...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > šŸ” Brand Name Suggestions > We've released a huge upgrade to the brand name suggestions in iD. Thank you > to everyone who volunteered to match brand names to their proper >

Re: [Tagging] iD news - 2.12.0 released šŸŽ‰

2018-12-28 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Dec 27, 2018, at 7:51 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Thanks Bryan > Separate request for each brand, or one for multiples? either is fine! > & what do you need - just name & what they do / type of store & speciality? Mainly just the name and whatever tags should go with it (`shop=whateve

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

2019-01-02 Thread Bryan Housel
We discussed it here on this list last year. You started the thread even, so you canā€™t pretend like you "just realizedā€ it. I even asked people to update the wiki. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-May/036095.html

Re: [Tagging] Facts and opinions

2019-01-07 Thread Bryan Housel
> Just recently the iD Editor maintainer added more multiCombo functions > (like [3]) and presets key (like "service:vehicle" [4]). Both is OK > per se, but the latter preset was undocumented on the Wiki, and > obviously the iD Editor maintainer prefers namespaces over semicolons > for handling mul

[Tagging] Changeset tag for issue closing

2019-01-07 Thread Bryan Housel
iD now integrates with the KeepRight Q/A tool.. This is pretty great, and you should try it out: https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/1081398222176817152 But I have a tagging question. As we roll out this feature, as well as other Q/A to

Re: [Tagging] Facts and opinions

2019-01-07 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jan 7, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > Doesnā€™t taginfo use the wiki as the source of tags that are listed? No, taginfoā€™s source is the actual tag data from the OSM database. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] service

2019-01-07 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jan 7, 2019, at 6:22 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi Bryan > I've just created a new page for shop=caravan > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shop%3Dcaravan > , which i copied from the > shop=car page. > > As such, it's also copied a

Re: [Tagging] service

2019-01-08 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jan 8, 2019, at 2:30 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > > Am 07.01.2019 um 16:12 schrieb Bryan Housel: >> ... >> On ā€œboth is OKā€. the `service:vehicle` issue was because we canā€™t use the >> same key `service=*` to contain both things like `tyres` (a few thousands) >&g

Re: [Tagging] Facts and opinions

2019-01-09 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jan 9, 2019, at 1:18 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Jan 7, 2019, 4:12 PM by bhou...@gmail.com: > And on ā€œthe wikiā€, I have basically given up on the OSM wiki because it > contains so much wrong information and opinion, and Iā€™m tired of having my > edits reverted. I just recently had another

Re: [Tagging] Facts and opinions

2019-01-09 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jan 9, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Jan 9, 2019, 7:33 PM by bhou...@gmail.com: > On Jan 9, 2019, at 1:18 PM, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > Jan 7, 2019, 4:12 PM by bhou...@gmail.com : > And on ā€œthe wikiā€, I have basica

Re: [Tagging] Facts and opinions

2019-01-09 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jan 9, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Stefan Keller wrote: > > Hi, > > As one of the originators of this thread I'd like to second that the > Wiki is important. It's not only a documentation tool but also a > communication. We all need patience with Wikis and it's curation and > users - like we e.g. ha

[Tagging] iD news - v2.6.0 lots of new features...

2018-01-22 Thread Bryan Housel
Happy 2018! I just released iD v2.6.0 yesterday.. šŸ“£ Release Highlights - šŸŽš You can now adjust imagery brightness, contrast, saturation, and sharpness. (Not currently available in Internet Explorer or Edge) Try enhancing the background imagery by opening the Background pane (shortcut ā€œB") a

Re: [Tagging] iD news - v2.6.0 lots of new features...

2018-01-22 Thread Bryan Housel
> > > On 23 January 2018 at 02:48, Bryan Housel <mailto:br...@7thposition.com>> wrote: > Happy 2018! I just released iD v2.6.0 yesterday.. > > Thank you & your team for all your hard work - some of these, especially the > brightness control will be very handy!

[Tagging] iD news - v2.7.0, new imagery, upgraded turn restriction editor

2018-03-05 Thread Bryan Housel
Hey everyone, I just released iD v2.7.0 and itā€™s now available for editing on openstreetmap.org šŸ“£ Release Highlights ā€¢ šŸ—ŗ We've added support for more background imagery from WMS servers. Thanks Martin Raifer and Guillaume Rischard for your work on this.. Press B to o

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Bryan Housel
Searching https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surface#values for ā€œrubberā€ turns up a few alternatives, with ā€œrubbercrumbā€ having the most traction: rubber 258 rubbercrumb 170 Rubber 7 rubberiz

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Bryan Housel
stuff on taginfo :) Thanks, Bryan > On Mar 12, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > "On 12 March 2018 at 13:02, Bryan Housel wrote: >> Searching https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surface#values for ā€œrubberā€ >> turns up a few alternatives > >> rubb

Re: [Tagging] no_u_turn restrictions for every entry/exit into a roundabout when the way is split because of physical separation?

2018-04-06 Thread Bryan Housel
Hey tagging@ Wearing my ā€œmaintainer of iDā€ hat today, I feel like itā€™s important to comment on this. I agree it would be great to be able to build a dataset of legal defaults which can be used by routers and editors in interesting ways. This is a thing that comes up for discussion frequently.

[Tagging] iD news - v2.8.0, GSoC, OSM-US Hackathon 5/21-5/22 at Mapbox DC!

2018-05-04 Thread Bryan Housel
Hello all! Iā€™ve got a bunch of exciting items to share about iD - please check out the news and share.. šŸ’¬ iD 2.8.0 released, including Community Index We've changed how things look on the post-upload screen. Now after saving your edits, you will see a list of OpenStreetMap communities that a

Re: [Tagging] service:vehicle: prefix

2018-05-06 Thread Bryan Housel
Hey all, this is something I added to iD because we canā€™t support reusing the `service=*` tag to also store values for vehicle services. The tag is already overwhelmingly used to hold values for `highway=service` and `railway=service`. So we added `service:vehicle` for users to tag these, and i

Re: [Tagging] tagging of one-way cycle lanes

2018-05-13 Thread Bryan Housel
Hah speaking of lanes.. Why does the osm wiki page for `leisure=track` list `lanes=*` under the ā€œuseful combinationā€ section. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=track I donā€™t believe Iā€™ve ever seen an athletics track that allow

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

2018-06-06 Thread Bryan Housel
This comes up for discussion on iDā€™s issue tracker sometimes, and I always close it as something we wonā€™t change. The usage numbers just donā€™t support it. https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/4272 https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issue

[Tagging] emergency=first_aid_kit

2018-06-10 Thread Bryan Housel
I was looking at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:emergency today. Can we add a tag for `emergency=first_aid_kit` ? thanks, Bryan ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lis

[Tagging] emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-10 Thread Bryan Housel
I was looking at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:emergency today. We have too many tags for different kinds of lifeguards. This is too confusing. I donā€™t want to have to show all these choices to iD users. tag uses https://wiki.ope

[Tagging] emergency=fire_alarm_box

2018-06-10 Thread Bryan Housel
I was looking at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:emergency today. Someone just made this page for emergency=fire_alarm_box a few weeks ago https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dfire_alarm_box

[Tagging] I can't support transit:lanes

2018-06-10 Thread Bryan Housel
Iā€™ve had a few recent conversations about this proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/transit Unfortunately I canā€™t support it. Not only is the name bad (it should be named `transition:lanes` but whatever),

Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-10 Thread Bryan Housel
> Though Iā€™m not fundamentally opposed to making it a hierarchical tag along > the lines of: > emergency=lifeguard > lifeguard=base/place/platform/tower Sounds good - lets do it! What are the next steps? > All the usual arguments for and against trying to change tags ā€œby decreeā€ > applyā€¦ Be

Re: [Tagging] I can't support transit:lanes

2018-06-11 Thread Bryan Housel
Amazing, but Iā€™m not surprised that the JOSM devs figured this out years ago :) OK, so we should probably have a conversation about how a tag like this can continue to exist for years with - not just no support but - literally everyone who writes software speaking out against it. But for right

Re: [Tagging] emergency=fire_alarm , emergency=stop_button

2018-06-11 Thread Bryan Housel
Ok cool So we have `emergency=fire_alarm` (for both indoor pull and outdoor box types, invent a sub tag if needed to distinguish) and `emergency=stop_button` Who wants to add these pages? Iā€™ll add presets for iD this week if we can just move this forward and wrap up the discussion. Thanks,

Re: [Tagging] I can't support transit:lanes

2018-06-11 Thread Bryan Housel
> Two issues here. > First, the tag is not ā€œtransit:lanesā€ the tag is ā€œtransitā€ and it can be used > with the generalized ā€œ:lanesā€ suffix. > There are general rules for the :lanes suffix which can be added to pretty > much any tag you would have on a highway were the value could be different >

Re: [Tagging] I can't support transit:lanes

2018-06-11 Thread Bryan Housel
> You are seriously telling me that if you have two ways that share a node, you > are unable to figure out what that node is without having it explicitly > listed as a totally redundant member of the relation? Yes - do you think the via node in a turn restriction is also redundant? It helps me

Re: [Tagging] I can't support transit:lanes

2018-06-11 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 11, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > 11. Jun 2018 13:09 by bhou...@gmail.com : > But for right now, can we get that page taken down so people stop tagging it, > and have a proper proposal put up and accepted? > I added > https://wiki.openstreetm

[Tagging] iD news - v2.9.0 now with Bing Streetside support

2018-06-16 Thread Bryan Housel
Happy Summer! šŸ•¶ I just released iD v2.9.0 this week and itā€™s now available on openstreetmap.org for editing. If you use street level imagery you will like this... šŸ“· Bing Streetside now supported iD now includes a layer for Bing Streetside! This new layer provides

Re: [Tagging] iD news - v2.9.0 now with Bing Streetside support

2018-06-16 Thread Bryan Housel
No, I havenā€™t seen that.. Can you share the location around where you see them? Thanks Bryan > On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:04 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > > > > On 17 June 2018 at 00:32, Bryan Housel <mailto:bhou...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Happy Summer! šŸ•¶

Re: [Tagging] iD news - v2.9.0 now with Bing Streetside support

2018-06-16 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:31 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > On 17 June 2018 at 14:16, Bryan Housel <mailto:bhou...@gmail.com>> wrote: > No, I havenā€™t seen that.. Can you share the location around where you see > them? > Thanks Bryan > > All over the place

[Tagging] `amenity=shelter` implies `building=yes`?

2018-06-16 Thread Bryan Housel
Does `amenity=shelter` imply `building=yes`? The osm wiki page does not suggest `building=*` as a ā€œtag to use in combinationā€ https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=shelter But most other features which are closed-way structures

Re: [Tagging] `amenity=shelter` implies `building=yes`?

2018-06-18 Thread Bryan Housel
> There are also picnic shelters .. here they can have no walls just a roof to > shelter from the heat of the sun or the occasional bit of rain. > e.g. > https://www.riversideca.gov/park_rec/sites/riversideca.gov.park_rec/files/pictures/Picnic%20Shelter%20Hunter%20hobby.JPG > >

[Tagging] New GitHub tagging repo "osmlab/osm-tagging" - was: emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-18 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 17, 2018, at 7:34 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > If the consensus is to change it to emergency=lifeguard + lifeguard=*, then I > think this needs to be changed in: > > 1. The wiki > 2. Put forward a proposal to do a mechanical edit to change the existing tags > 3. Carry out that mechanic

Re: [Tagging] `amenity=shelter` implies `building=yes`?

2018-06-18 Thread Bryan Housel
ng that on them. But that still doesn't make them > buildings. They are more like containers with glass wall panels and a metal > roof on a slab of concrete. Relatively easy to move and relatively small in > size. > > Polyglot > > Op ma 18 jun. 2018 om 15:28 schre

[Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-18 Thread Bryan Housel
from https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/5088 `covered`, traditionally: Someone has asked me to add a `covered=booth` field to the telephone preset. Iā€™m pushing back on the request slightly because `covered=*` already has a mostly-understo

Re: [Tagging] New GitHub tagging repo "osmlab/osm-tagging" - was: emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-18 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Jokes aside, there are many serious reasons why good old-fashioned > mailing lists should be the mainstay of important communication in OSM. Iā€™m not suggesting to replace the mailing list. As you can probably tell form the past week, Iā€™ve

Re: [Tagging] New GitHub tagging repo "osmlab/osm-tagging" - was: emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-18 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 18, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:36 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar > wrote: > > Just to comment on the Microsoft side angle hereā€¦. Please try to stay on topic. Weā€™re not going to change our approach to GitHub anytime soon. If y

Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-19 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 19, 2018, at 7:41 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > 2018-06-19 11:17 GMT+02:00 Andrew Harvey >: > Martin, which part? The whole reason this discussion started is because Bryan > wants to offer a way to tag a lifeguard facility iD without forcing u

Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-19 Thread Bryan Housel
marc >> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2018 22:24 >> To: tagging@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard >> >> Le 19. 06. 18 Ć  13:56, Bryan Housel a Ć©crit : >>>> the lifeguard base is defined for storage and administration >>

Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-19 Thread Bryan Housel
; > > 2018-06-19 15:14 GMT+02:00 Bryan Housel <mailto:bhou...@gmail.com>>: > Thank you for checking! > I guess those can be`emergency=lifeguard + lifeguard=base` > (what was decided before) > > > "decided"? > I suggest you use a different key

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-19 Thread Bryan Housel
23 to start the cleanup.. As always, looking for volunteers to do the actual work of replacing the tags and cleaning up the wiki. Thanks, Bryan > On Jun 18, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 9:00 PM, Bryan Housel <mailto:bhou...@gmail.com>

Re: [Tagging] `amenity=shelter` implies `building=yes`?

2018-06-19 Thread Bryan Housel
FYI I closed this issue in iD yesterday. We now provide a field to let users decide whether to treat `amenity=shelter` as a building or not. Thanks all for your input! Bryan > On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:45 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: > > Does `amenity=shelter` imply `building=yes`? >

Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-19 Thread Bryan Housel
Basically, yeah šŸ˜‚ > On Jun 19, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > > On 19/06/2018 14:37, Bryan Housel wrote: >> Yes it was settled a week ago >> The migration is being discussed here: >> https://github.com/osmlab/osm-tagging/issues/1 >> This thread ca

Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-19 Thread Bryan Housel
> This is not the first time, and you have stated more than once your idea of > tag creation and endorsement is top down, with the software maintainer > deciding the tags on the input side, sweeping away the confusing plurality of > comunity created tags. Thatā€™s not really what I think - are y

[Tagging] iD presets - was: emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-19 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 19, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Hi, > Perhaps it would make sense to treat the iD editor and the tagging > presets it uses as two different projects that are conceptually separate > enough so that the tagging presets as rolled out on osm.org can be > curated by a group th

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid_kit

2018-06-20 Thread Bryan Housel
we can consider this one closed šŸ‘ > On Jun 11, 2018, at 12:08 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: > > I was looking at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:emergency > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:emergency> today. > > Can we add a tag for `emergency=first

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid_kit

2018-06-20 Thread Bryan Housel
y so the page seems a bit weird. >> Name on a first aid kit? Draw an area around the shop outline? >> >> Assuming that are simply C&P errors, I'll fix things in nobody has any >> objections. >> >> Simon >> >> Am 20.06.2018 um 19:

Re: [Tagging] emergency=fire_alarm , emergency=stop_button

2018-06-20 Thread Bryan Housel
ues/6> Thanks, Bryan > On Jun 11, 2018, at 10:53 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: > > Ok cool > > So we have > `emergency=fire_alarm` (for both indoor pull and outdoor box types, invent > a sub tag if needed to distinguish) > and > `emergency=stop_button` > > Who

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid_kit

2018-06-20 Thread Bryan Housel
t aid facility to what you were looking for, a > simple first aid kit. In practical terms that would be a rather big > difference that should be reflected in the tagging. > > Simon > > Am 20.06.2018 um 19:51 schrieb Bryan Housel: >> I guess `emergency=first_aid` seems fine

Re: [Tagging] iD presets

2018-06-20 Thread Bryan Housel
Hey Christoph - You make some really interesting points in your email. Rather than replying point by point, Iā€™m going to pick out a few phrases that stood out. It sounds like I need to do a better job of explaining... šŸ‘Øā€šŸ« ā€œHow a tag becomes a preset in iDā€ First - and this is something that

Re: [Tagging] Be the change you want to see in the world - was: emergency=lifeguard

2018-06-20 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 20, 2018, at 5:21 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > this is what I understood from the messages you recently sent here, e.g.: "We > have too many tags for different kinds of lifeguards. This is too confusing. > I donā€™t want to have to show all these choices to iD users. ... Letā€™s jus

Re: [Tagging] iD presets

2018-06-21 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 21, 2018, at 6:16 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > Then why do you object to Frederik's idea of separating the tagging > presets from editor development and give up control over the decisions? I offered to do exactly this a few years ago: https://github.com/osmlab/editor-presets/pull/

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > +1, if you want to describe the position of a first aid kit, a sensible tag > seems emergency=first_aid_kid > For a staffed location where you go for first aid, emergency=first_aid seems > ok (Iā€™d rather use something more verbose l

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
Bryan > On Jun 19, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: > > Sounds good to me. > We can leave the thread open a few more days to see if anyone cares that much > about `covered=booth`. > I think 5 days is plenty. > > If nobody is using it, Iā€™ll open an issue on &

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
> Somebody has already posted a picture to the list of a public phone with no > hood, no booth, and no cover, so > adding booth=yes to all phones could be an error. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Weā€™re not adding `booth=yes` to all phones. Just the ones that - donā€™t already have a `booth

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 23, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Weā€™re not adding `booth=yes` to all phones. Just the ones that >> - donā€™t already have a `booth=*` tag and > > That is not right. If they don't have a booth=* tag then don't think that > these all have a booth. > So I woul

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
> Err .. proposals can be for anything, including sub tags. There should be > more of it. > Things like the sub tag 'sales' under motorcycle shops could have been > avoided if that had come to the tagging group. I would never waste peopleā€™s time by writing a proposal for something so simple as

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid_kit

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
> Would you object if I changed the page to emergency=first_aid_kit for > example?? I would not mind at all - `emergency=first_aid_kit` was what I suggested originally. Someone else made that wiki page and I donā€™t know why they called it that. Anyway I just moved it to `emergency=first_aid_ki

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid_kit

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 23, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > There should also be a separate page for first aid facility, if you're not > busy :-) I still think a staffed facility should be something under `healthcare=*` - there is lots on that page already. > Mentioned on the lifeguard

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-24 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 24, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > what about modifying all booth=yes on telephones to covered=booth ? No. Thatā€™s the exact opposite of what Iā€™m trying to achieve. I feel like you might not have read very carefully any of the emails that Iā€™ve sent on the subje

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-24 Thread Bryan Housel
e > >> On 24. Jun 2018, at 16:19, Bryan Housel wrote: >> >> I canā€™t be any more clear than this: >> >> I will support `covered=yes/no` as a checkbox. >> I will support `booth=*` as a dropdown >> I wonā€™t support `covered=booth` . > > > tha

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-24 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 24, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > Ok.. > Iā€™ve decided after talking to a few more people about this that Iā€™m going to > just support things in iD the best I can, and pull back from tagging > discussions. > > "just support things" sounds fine, if this means adding

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-26 Thread Bryan Housel
> Meanwhile, there probably is a need to tag a kind of store that is sometimes > referred to as a discount store. I'm > thinking of the likes of Costco or Sam's Club. They're essentially > wholesalers operating on a cash and carry basis > and which are open to the public, not just retailers (bu

Re: [Tagging] landcover=asphalt ; landuse=highway

2018-07-13 Thread Bryan Housel
From what I remember people are already using `area:highway=*` for detailed street area mapping. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/area%3Ahighway I would think `landuse=highway` would work kind of like `landuse=railway`, used to map a

[Tagging] iD news - v2.10.0 with OSM Notes and more

2018-08-03 Thread Bryan Housel
We released iD v2.10.0 last week! šŸ“ OSM Notes You can now create, comment on, and resolve OpenStreetMap notes from within iD! This work was done as part of Thomas Hervey's 2018 Google Summer of Code project, and you can read about it in his diary here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user

Re: [Tagging] Car pound, tow pound etc.

2018-08-17 Thread Bryan Housel
Iā€™d strongly prefer not to use `landuse` for this. These facilities are sometimes indoor garages. (Anytime we use `landuse` for something that might also be mapped a building or POI, weā€™re doing it wrong.) `amenity=impound` makes sense to me. Here is some more information about the process:

Re: [Tagging] tagging a gamesroom?

2018-08-17 Thread Bryan Housel
Probably `leisure=amusement_arcade`, which is not great but the best tag we have. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Damusement_arcade Thanks, Bryan > On Aug 17, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > > On Fr

[Tagging] Traffic sign direction tagging..

2018-09-27 Thread Bryan Housel
Hey Tagging List! While reviewing a pull request to add Traffic Sign presets to iD, I came across a tagging issue with how traffic sign directions are tagged. The details are here https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/5333 and relevant guidance

Re: [Tagging] Traffic sign direction tagging..

2018-09-28 Thread Bryan Housel
> I actually mentioned the issue in Milano. > Essentially `traffic_sign`, `traffic_sign:forward` and > `traffic_sign:backward` need to be treated as "object" tags as things are now. > Letā€™s just do `traffic_sign=*` and consider the others an unfortunate mistake that can go away. > See pages 2

Re: [Tagging] My "weirdly unnatural aversion to relations"

2018-09-29 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Sep 29, 2018, at 6:56 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > I honestly don't understand why, ten years since it's introduction as OSM's > third basic primitive, there's still this weirdly unnatural aversion to > relations, even though they're quite a powerful primitive in our toolbox. From my own p

Re: [Tagging] Traffic sign direction tagging..

2018-10-01 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Oct 1, 2018, at 5:23 PM, yo paseopor wrote: > > > ^ This is the problem. The wiki says we are supposed to do something like > `traffic_sign:forward=US:R1`, and we can't really do that. A preset needs to > be based on a "toplevel" tag like `traffic_sign=*` not > `traffic_sign:forward=*`

Re: [Tagging] amenity=clinic or healthcare=clinic

2018-10-17 Thread Bryan Housel
Yes, iD now adds the `healthcare=` tags alongside the legacy tags. https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/3589 We also considered asking users if they want to ā€œupgradeā€ old tags, but I received enough pushback that I just decided to drop the idea. https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/45

Re: [Tagging] 2 meaning for crossing=zebra

2018-10-25 Thread Bryan Housel
Oh! I donā€™t like `crossing=zebra` either. Not sure whether you caught the end of that issue #4788, but anyway I've decided I'm tired of hearing people complain about `crossing=zebra` so going forward iD will support these 2 presets: - `crossing=marked` which is labeled ā€œMarked Crosswalk" -

Re: [Tagging] 2 meaning for crossing=zebra

2018-10-26 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Oct 26, 2018, at 6:26 AM, marc marc wrote: > > Le 26. 10. 18 Ć  01:18, Bryan Housel a Ć©crit : >> I donā€™t like `crossing=zebra` either.<...> iD will support these 2 presets: >> - `crossing=marked` which is labeled ā€œMarked Crosswalk" >> - `crossing=unmarke

Re: [Tagging] 2 meaning for crossing=zebra

2018-10-26 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Oct 26, 2018, at 6:44 AM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > Tagging "unmarked crossings" does not make sense for me. An unmarked crossing > is defined in OSM by a road and a footway sharing a node, there is no need > for a tag here, as there is nothing special. > > Otherwise I would need to set a no

Re: [Tagging] unmarked crossing, tactile paving, lowered kerbs / was: 2 meaning for crossing=zebra

2018-10-26 Thread Bryan Housel
> So how would you tag this situation: > https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.0707782,153.4362109,3a,75y,140.17h,73.2t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0bHjLjjqqe1rrdNWfLu94g!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D0bHjLjjqqe1rrdNWfLu94g%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-17 Thread Bryan Housel
We have a bunch of roundabouts and traffic circles here in NJ. Today I learned that roundabouts and traffic circles are not necessarily the same thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout - no traffic signals controlling access to the roundabout - circling traffic in the roundabout has right

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-20 Thread Bryan Housel
Hi, Iā€™m the one who introduced this change. Iā€™m happy to roll it back if needed. I think I added pipeline to the list of tags that imply onewayness because of discussion here: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Underground-Pipelines-td5376988.html Users can still explicitly tag pipelines as oneway

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-20 Thread Bryan Housel
ot; So my reading of that was that pipelines imply oneway=yes. On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: > Hi, Iā€™m the one who introduced this change. Iā€™m happy to roll it back if > needed. > > I think I added pipeline to the list of tags that imply onewayness because

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-21 Thread Bryan Housel
Iā€™ve just pushed the change to the iD code so that `man_made=pipeline` will no longer imply onewayness. Again, iD does not put actual oneway tags on anything, it is up to users to do this. iD was simply rendering oneway arrows over the pipeline, the same way it would for a river or motorway.

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Beach routing

2014-07-10 Thread Bryan Housel
I say go ahead and add it, though `highway=track` (with appropriate access tag) might make more sense if vehicles drive along the beach. Here in NJ, people have also been mapping the paths that lead down to the beach from the boardwalks, but they generally arenā€™t connected. Iā€™m a runner, so I

Re: [Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key

2014-07-16 Thread Bryan Housel
Oh yeah this comes up sometimes. IMO a wine shop and a winery are not the same thing. The former is something they have at the train station to help with the evening commute, and the latter is the sort of thing people plan their vacations around. Oddly we have the mostly standard `craft=brewer

Re: [Tagging] interpolated housenumbers on single objects

2014-08-20 Thread Bryan Housel
Yes, people are doing this with GoPro: http://blog.amanzi.org/2014/05/using-gopro-time-lapse-photos-for.html On Aug 20, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > I'm trying to find a way to photograph sideways from my bike and send photos > to Mapillary. The day should be shiny with a lot of l

Re: [Tagging] default value for "oneway"

2014-08-28 Thread Bryan Housel
Right now, the oneway checkbox in iD cycles through ā€œYesā€ ā€œNoā€ and ā€œAssumed to be Noā€ (blank). There are a handful of situations that will switch this checkbox to say ā€œYesā€ ā€œNoā€ and ā€œAssumed to be Yesā€ (blank). (for example, a `junction=roundabout` or `highway=motorway` tag) It sounds to me lik

Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-08-30 Thread Bryan Housel
We are supporting `smoothness` in iD. Now as of a month ago, we display friendlier (and translatable) text descriptions for these kinds of dropdown fields. (e.g. sac_scale, track type, trail_visibility, etc) When I added these last month, I did borrow heavily from the descriptions on the wiki:

Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-09-01 Thread Bryan Housel
So I have some thoughts on smoothnessā€¦ Itā€™s not a terrible tag. I think if we just replace ā€œusable byā€ with ā€œsuitable forā€ on the wiki, it would be a bit better. We all know that itā€™s certainly *possible* to take a road bike or inline skates down a pile of rocks, (I do it myself too). That d

Re: [Tagging] Route relations - Forward & Backward

2014-09-05 Thread Bryan Housel
Unless there is a contraflow bus lane (were we just discussing this in IRC yesterday?).. Iā€™m super careful about these because I tried driving through one in San Juan once and the Policia really did not like that. On Sep 5, 2014, at 11:59 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > If a bus route makes us

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=mall versus shop=shopping_centre

2014-10-21 Thread Bryan Housel
Your description of a mall as an enclosed place makes sense to me, but where I live they seem to call anything a ā€œmallā€. Here is the "Watchung Square Mallā€: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/258702838 and the ā€œValley Mallā€: http://www.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

2014-12-28 Thread Bryan Housel
Yes, `amenity` please. A gym is something people want to know about when traveling, just as much as other tourist stuff, food, lodging, etc. > On Dec 28, 2014, at 10:25 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > > The only other tag that would work is amenity=fitness_centre. Taginfo would > indicate that am

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

2014-12-29 Thread Bryan Housel
Whatā€™s leisure time? Itā€™s 5:30am here and Iā€™m about to head to the gym, like I do most days. > On Dec 29, 2014, at 3:29 AM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > > On 29.12.2014 04:51, Bryan Housel wrote: >> Yes, `amenity` please. A gym is something people want to know about when >&g

Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?

2015-01-10 Thread Bryan Housel
In this dropdown, iD is simply returning the most popular results from taginfo: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/religion#values > On Jan 10, 2015, at 6:57 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > well that explains the slightly, but not signi

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Bryan Housel
I just did a quick search in iD. We display the ā€œLengthā€ field only on the Runway preset. (I think it does make sense there) Thanks, Bryan > On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: > > I have noticed a "length" tag used on some linear ways [1]. It seems > that this is redundant,

Re: [Tagging] Ambiguous translations of waterway=dam - should be moved to man_made=dam

2015-04-15 Thread Bryan Housel
The iD translations are handled through Transifex https://www.transifex.com/organization/ideditor/dashboard/id-editor So if there is an issue with the way the translations appear in Brazil, you should be able to log in to tra

Re: [Tagging] To mark as covered, or to not mark as covered?

2015-05-28 Thread Bryan Housel
Isnā€™t that exactly the situation that `covered` is for - so that validators donā€™t raise a warning about the way passing through a building? (I donā€™t use this tag myself, but I assumed thatā€™s why it exists). > On May 28, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > Here is another excessively map

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] README tag with editor support

2015-06-12 Thread Bryan Housel
Iā€™ll add my thoughts here.. Imagery: The issue of outdated imagery is complicated because: 1. In iD we don't really know the date range that the imagery was taken (Bing is the exception not the rule, and we can get from their API only a range not a hard date) 2. It depends on what zoom the use

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