Re: [Tagging] More human readable values for traffic signs

2015-10-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 31.10.2015 um 00:31 schrieb Lauri Kytömaa : > > Even the no entry (round red sign with a yellow/white horizontal > rectangle) sign _effectively_ makes a short section oneway: no, it is an infinitesimal small section aka a point that is effected. In osm we map it with

Re: [Tagging] More human readable values for traffic signs

2015-10-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 30.10.2015 um 22:52 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > I like the description of the tagging list as the Golgafrinch B Ark :-) ... > and I did not have to look it up. hopefully you're not all gonna die from a contagious disease transmitted via contaminated te

Re: [Tagging] More human readable values for traffic signs

2015-10-31 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-10-31 at 01:31 +0200, Lauri Kytömaa wrote: > > Even the no entry (round red sign with a yellow/white horizontal > rectangle) sign _effectively_ makes a short section oneway: every > vehicle has length, so at some point coming from the "oneway" > direction, there's at least a small (b

Re: [Tagging] More human readable values for traffic signs

2015-10-31 Thread Gerd Petermann
yes, I also saw them in Germany Von: Philip Barnes Gesendet: Samstag, 31. Oktober 2015 11:41 An: tagging@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Tagging] More human readable values for traffic signs On Sat, 2015-10-31 at 01:31 +0200, Lauri Kytömaa wrote: > > Even

Re: [Tagging] More human readable values for traffic signs

2015-10-31 Thread Marc Gemis
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > It is often used to simply prohibit traffic, with exceptions shown on a > plate below. Except buses (and taxis) is often used in the UK, "sauf > riverains" is common in France and both indicate an access restriction, > not a one way. > in

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

2015-10-31 Thread John Eldredge
We have generally avoided the use of acronyms in tagging. Most people, including me, wouldn't recognize the meaning of sign=pcms upon seeing it. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do t

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

2015-10-31 Thread Gerd Petermann
I think we have divide this into two points: 1) how do we map the position "overhead"? I found location=overhead is used ~ 2500 times. 2) I guess we all associate the "electronic display" with something similar to a computer monitor, which is programmable, but if I got that right, there are al

[Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-10-31 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi all, It seems that many mappers associate words like "island" or "traffic island" with an area on a road that is enclosed by a white line and maybe hatched lines ("schraffiert") Also often used: traffic_calming=* Not so often: "keep clear" I don't even remember how to call them in German

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-10-31 Thread Volker Schmidt
It seems that many mappers associate words like "island" or "traffic island" > > with an area on a road that is enclosed by a white line and > > maybe hatched lines ("schraffiert") > I only consider an island if it elevated and tag it as traffic_calming=island. If it's painted on, I do not map it a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-10-31 Thread Gerd Petermann
Example for keep clear: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13820411 The node also is in such a marked area, no direct relation to "island" or "traffic island" reg. crossing=island: ok, your example shows a simple case where the island is in the middle. What if there are multiple islands?

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-10-31 Thread Volker Schmidt
> Example for keep clear: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13820411 > This seems to be the only instance of highway=keep_clear in OSM (according to taginfo). This is a common horizontal road sign in the UK. It indicates tht vehicles should not anter the cross-hatched area if the traffic situa

Re: [Tagging] More human readable values for traffic signs

2015-10-31 Thread Gerd Petermann
regarding the human readable values: Some mappers add diverse tags like this to the node: bicycle=official foot=official highway=path traffic_sign=DE:240 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3452379412 [http://www.openstreetmap.org/assets/osm_logo_256-835a859acf0d378e1d14e88b15e7b4b95211ccd41a2c061

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

2015-10-31 Thread François Lacombe
Hi everyone, Just my 2 cents : Traffic_sign=electronic_display Location=overhead Operator=* The variable function may be included inside the electronic_display value of traffic_sign As an overhead feature, it should be member of the highway feature it is placed upon of. Cheers Le 31 oct. 2015 4

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-10-31 Thread Jerry Clough (SK53)
This description of crossing=island is at odds with what I understand. The crossing you show is a fairly standard crossing=uncontrolled as described in the wiki (i.e., with explicit markings, but no signals) , albeit with an island. I think I have used crossing=island for places like this: h

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-10-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Gerd Petermann writes: > It seems that many mappers associate words like "island" or "traffic island" > > with an area on a road that is enclosed by a white line and > > maybe hatched lines ("schraffiert") > > Also often used: traffic_calming=* In the US, it is only an "island" if there is a re

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-10-31 Thread johnw
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:05 AM, Gerd Petermann > wrote: > > > > It seems that many mappers associate words like "island" or "traffic island" > with an area on a road that is enclosed by a white line and > maybe hatched lines ("schraffiert”) http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/35.70784/139.7

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

2015-10-31 Thread johnw
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Gerd Petermann > wrote: > > rather rare objects. These signs are very very common in Japan. they are usually on the tollway for every 10 minutes of driving. They're constantly updated with either accident, weather, or road conditions. https://goo.gl/maps/bK5L

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

2015-10-31 Thread johnw
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Gerd Petermann > wrote: > > traffic_sign=changing > or > traffic_sign=variable The matrix displays and variable signs are very different. Most speed limit signs in Japan are “variable” - they are small numeric screens that usually vary between 50 and 100 ba

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-10-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Gerd Petermann < gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > It seems that many mappers associate words like "island" or "traffic > island" > > with an area on a road that is enclosed by a white line and > > maybe hatched lines ("schraffiert") > > Also often used: t