Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Richard Z. wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 09:52:06PM -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > Note that just because you can collect some data, does not make it a good > > idea to put in OSM. Maintenance is harder than collection: and who's > going > > to go back three

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 5:02 AM, Blake Girardot wrote: > > The intention of the damage:event=* or maybe disaster:event=* tag doesn't > have much to do with assigning causation, and has more to do with tag > maintenance. We want to be able to run projects that get objects that were > tagged with a

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-24 Thread Warin
On 24/05/2015 5:09 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Richard Z. > wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 09:52:06PM -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > Note that just because you can collect some data, does not make it a good > idea to put

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-24 Thread Warin
On 24/05/2015 5:10 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 5:02 AM, Blake Girardot > wrote: The intention of the damage:event=* or maybe disaster:event=* tag doesn't have much to do with assigning causation, and has more to do with tag maintenanc

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Because it become available to others .. like the government/local > authorities who may be in charge of repairs? > Crowd source databases are not appropriate sources for government/local action at that level. Were there i

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 23.05.2015 um 20:08 schrieb pmailkeey . : >> On 23 May 2015 at 17:47, Dave Swarthout wrote: >> The Wiki article clearly teaches that the amenity=charging_station tag was >> designed with vehicles in mind. > > Well if it's a VEHICLE charging station, it should have said that. They > didn

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 24.05.2015 um 06:18 schrieb Dave Swarthout : > > @Martin, I think the two words connected with a colon is the best choice. > It's already in use: socket:USB=* there're different types of USB sockets so I'd be more specific here cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-24 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
Hi Bryce: Have you ever done any single task of any Tasking Manager project? >From your comments, it seems you are completely wrong on what the Tasking >Manager is about. Cheers, Rafael. El 24 de mayo de 2015 02:55:17 CDT, Bryce Nesbitt escribió: >On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Warin <61

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Warin
On 24/05/2015 7:06 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 23.05.2015 um 20:08 schrieb pmailkeey . >: On 23 May 2015 at 17:47, Dave Swarthout > wrote: The Wiki article clearly teaches that the amenity=charging_station tag

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-24 Thread John Willis
I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. Wether that is natural or artificial, I'm not sure there's a distinction. http://www.tripadvisor.com/MobileViewPhoto-g298182-d1311890-i131738347-Ryuzu_Waterfall-Nikko_Tochigi_Prefecture_Kanto.html I've visited a lot of wa

Re: [Tagging] Replace tagging mailling list with Loomio?

2015-05-24 Thread jgpacker
As one of the people that evaluated Loomio, I have to say that it actually would be good enough for replacing the tagging mailing list with considerable benefits*, with two caveats: (1) it's not too suitable for the long ramblings and discussions (no paging) that are characteristic of the tagging m

Re: [Tagging] Replace tagging mailling list with Loomio?

2015-05-24 Thread Janko Mihelić
Maybe if there was a way to integrate Loomio so that the mailing list still works, but without the added features. And some features turned off, like editing messages, because that doesn't make sense with a mailing list. Janko ned, 24. svi 2015. 15:43 jgpacker je napisao: > As one of the people

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Tod Fitch
> On May 24, 2015, at 2:07 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> Am 24.05.2015 um 06:18 schrieb Dave Swarthout : >> >> @Martin, I think the two words connected with a colon is the best choice. >> It's already in use: socket:USB=* > > > there're different types of USB sockets so I'd be more spe

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Dave Swarthout
@Martin - I'm not aware of any different types of USB socket - are you referring to USB 2.0, and USB 3.0? If so, that can be handled by another tag, e.g. USB:version or USB:type. On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 24/05/2015 7:06 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer w

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Dave Swarthout
Or is is what Todd mentioned (his post came just after I sent mine)? The various small USB connectors, mini-, micro-, etc., are designed for different appliances and vary in size. But the big side is standard. On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > @Martin - I'm not aware of an

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Colin Smale
There are two types of "big sides" (as far as charging is concerned): USB 1/2/3 which we all know, and then there's USB type C - new, reversible - not compatible cable-wise. Also the max. charging current might be useful to know. At 500mA it takes a lng time to charge a tablet - so kno

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Dave Swarthout
I forgot about USB-C. I don't know when we'll start seeing those but the socket type should be included in our list of possibilities. Agree too about the charging current. Even though quite useful, I suspect that information will be tough to gather. My iPhone was taking so long to charge in the USB

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread pmailkeey .
On 24 May 2015 at 10:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > Am 23.05.2015 um 20:08 schrieb pmailkeey . : > > On 23 May 2015 at 17:47, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > The Wiki article clearly teaches that the amenity=charging_station tag was >> designed with vehicles in mind. >> > > Well if it's a VE

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread pmailkeey .
On 24 May 2015 at 15:42, Dave Swarthout wrote: > @Martin - I'm not aware of any different types of USB socket - are you > referring to USB 2.0, and USB 3.0? > > If so, that can be handled by another tag, e.g. USB:version or USB:type. > > I can think of 5 types Standard flat Standard square +3 sm

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Andreas Goss
Bit long winded... how about vehicle_charging .. for motor vehicles bicycle_charging .. for bicycles And then you have this http://www.bike-energy.com/ and that tagging isn't as nice anymore. __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88‎

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread AYTOUN RALPH
The idea is to get this rendered on the map. My opt is for amenity=power_socket which is what people will be looking for. It will be impossible to have a different symbol to indicate every different type of outlet in the world. Then the next thing they will need to know is the type of socket so t

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Andreas Goss
The idea is to get this rendered on the map. My opt is for amenity=power_socket which is what people will be looking for. It will be impossible to have a different symbol to indicate every different type of outlet in the world. Then the next thing they will need to know is the type of socket so

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Rafael Avila Coya wrote: > Hi Bryce: > Have you ever done any single task of any Tasking Manager project? > From your comments, it seems you are completely wrong on what the Tasking > Manager is about. > Cheers, > Rafael. > Why, yes I have used the tasking manage

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread pmailkeey .
On 24 May 2015 at 18:43, Andreas Goss wrote: > The idea is to get this rendered on the map. >> >> My opt is for amenity=power_socket which is what people will be looking >> for. It will be impossible to have a different symbol to indicate every >> different type of outlet in the world. >> >> Then

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 24.05.2015 um 17:30 schrieb pmailkeey . : > > I'd have suggested that but the cynic in me state that by the time this > becomes popular I wouldn't be surprised you won't be able to charge a Ford in > a GM outlet ! (ok, my original thought was more car charging and other elec > vehicle

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 24.05.2015 um 19:43 schrieb Andreas Goss : >> The tag 'amenity' automatically indicates it is for public use and so >> should not be used to tag every private domestic plug in a home. > > Mh... no. It doesn't. yes, it does ;-) cheers Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 24.05.2015 um 14:36 schrieb John Willis : > > I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. I thought it was a word for a single waterfall as well... > > Also - saying a waterfall is a reflecting pool is very disingenuous - it's > not "that" it reflects -

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

2015-05-24 Thread John Eldredge
There is an organization already tracking crowd-sourced reports of needed repairs, SeeClickFix. I have used this to report issues such as blocked street drains. The local Public Works department monitors these reports and marks them closed once the needed repairs have been done. On May 24, 2

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-24 Thread pmailkeey .
On 24 May 2015 at 22:53, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > > Am 24.05.2015 um 14:36 schrieb John Willis : > > > > I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. > > > I thought it was a word for a single waterfall as well... > > Only where the water hits other things

[Tagging] Wiki: Key:level: proposed rewrite

2015-05-24 Thread pmailkeey .
Any objection if I 'rewrite http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:level ? It seems to have been written with the misconception that floor names are numbers when they're not. A rewrite: - Won't affect existing names that appear as numbers. - Will encourage mappers to use correct names for

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-24 Thread Warin
On 25/05/2015 3:43 AM, Andreas Goss wrote: The idea is to get this rendered on the map. My opt is for amenity=power_socket which is what people will be looking for. It will be impossible to have a different symbol to indicate every different type of outlet in the world. Then the next thing they

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Here's another example of this type of feature: http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2014/04/16/brisbane-airport-opens-australias-first-assistance-animals-facility/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/

Re: [Tagging] Wiki: Key:level: proposed rewrite

2015-05-24 Thread Andrew Errington
Yes, I object. level=* is an "internal" value. Its meaning is absolute, which is necessary because it is used worldwide. When the value is displayed, the displaying software should localise the result according to either the viewer's language, or viewer's location. Perhaps you are not aware that

Re: [Tagging] Wiki: Key:level: proposed rewrite

2015-05-24 Thread Warin
On 25/05/2015 10:52 AM, Andrew Errington wrote: Yes, I object. level=* is an "internal" value. Its meaning is absolute, which is necessary because it is used worldwide. When the value is displayed, the displaying software should localise the result according to either the viewer's language

Re: [Tagging] Wiki: Key:level: proposed rewrite

2015-05-24 Thread pmailkeey .
On 25 May 2015 at 01:52, Andrew Errington wrote: > > Yes, I object. > > level=* is an "internal" value. Its meaning is absolute, which is > necessary because it is used worldwide. > > When the value is displayed, the displaying software should localise the > result according to either the viewe

Re: [Tagging] Wiki: Key:level: proposed rewrite

2015-05-24 Thread pmailkeey .
On 25 May 2015 at 03:53, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > A person seeking something on level "henry" will not recognise OSM level > numbers ... they want the name.. > > If OSM does not use names, but they are used within the wanted building > .. then there will need to be a declared relati

Re: [Tagging] Wiki: Key:level: proposed rewrite

2015-05-24 Thread Andrew Errington
> It's highly likely that the street level floor would be named 'Ground' - so > if software needs to know this, that would be a good starting point. It > could also be worked out by which highway meets the street. That's funny. In your previous example no floor is named 'Ground'. ___

Re: [Tagging] Wiki: Key:level: proposed rewrite

2015-05-24 Thread Tod Fitch
I believe that level=* is not intended for direction finding but for 3D rendering. So, yes, it is an “internal value” which needs to be uniform through out the world. And for building rendering numerical values make much more sense than text. Pretty much like lanes=* or width=* need to be unifor

Re: [Tagging] Wiki: Key:level: proposed rewrite

2015-05-24 Thread Warin
On 25/05/2015 1:18 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: It's highly likely that the street level floor would be named 'Ground' - so if software needs to know this, that would be a good starting point. It could also be worked out by which highway meets the street. That's funny. In your previous example n

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-24 Thread John Willis
> On May 25, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> Am 24.05.2015 um 14:36 schrieb John Willis : >> >> I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. > > > I thought it was a word for a single waterfall as well... The water careened off the cliff. Th