On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Anthony wrote:
> It doesn't feel right to call something a highway=* if it isn't usable
> for travel. If it is usable for travel, then it should be tagged
> highway=track/path/etc as appropriate.
highway=proposed and highway=construction aren't usable for travel.
>I was not aware that having OSM map streets was the kiss of death for any
>further development.
Hi. These are the kinds of sarcastic, unhelpful remarks that make OSM
lists suck. Please don't do it.
Steve
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On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
> It is for this reason that I prefer underscores myself.
>
> So service=drive_through it is?
I think so.
Could we also start recording deprecated synonyms on the wiki? In this
case, service=drive-through and service=drive_thru should
2010/10/20 Brad Neuhauser :
> Aren't admin_level and place getting at slightly different things?
> admin_level is to mark official political/legal boundaries. place is to
> mark a...well...place that has a name, and the
> place=city|town|village|hamlet does not necessarily align with the type of
admin_level=8, as per
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Admin_level#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries
place=suburb if it's a bit of a larger urban area
place=town if it corresponds to a reasonably large standalone urban area
place=village if it corresponds to a single small standalon
2010/10/20 Richard Mann :
> place=locality if it's not got a single small standalone area
locality is to be used for uninhabited places according to the wiki.
The is also place=isolated_dwelling for singular settlements (just one
house/maximum 2 households)
cheers,
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Townships are units of govt that are subdivisions of County, typically
square, population and urban form varies (to save you the trouble of
reading the wiki article he suggested you read if you don't know what
they are).
If the township contains a series of tiny places, but people do
genuinely giv
2010/10/20 Richard Mann :
> Townships are units of govt that are subdivisions of County, typically
> square, population and urban form varies (to save you the trouble of
> reading the wiki article he suggested you read if you don't know what
> they are).
Then it is a case for admin boundaries IMH
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:02 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2010/10/20 Brad Neuhauser :
> > Aren't admin_level and place getting at slightly different things?
> > admin_level is to mark official political/legal boundaries. place is to
> > mark a...well...place that has a name, and the
> > pla
M?rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Then it is a case for admin boundaries IMHO.
I think I agree with this - and also with a comment from talk-us of tag it
as place=township anyway
One of the issues seems to be that the admin_level tag for the US seems very
bare bones:
2 - national
4 - State
6 - Cou
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Antony Pegg wrote:
> M?rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
>> Then it is a case for admin boundaries IMHO.
>
> I think I agree with this - and also with a comment from talk-us of tag it
> as place=township anyway
>
> One of the issues seems to be that the admin_level tag f
2010/10/20 Brad Neuhauser :
> Functional (subjective) tagging versus tagging to a set standard (objective)
> is one underlying reason why US highway tagging is so inconsistent--
I can't follow you here. Functional classification of inhabited places
(settlements) doesn't have to be subjective, it
Antony Pegg writes:
> tagging admin area / populated centers / labels in USA seems to come down to
> two main tags:
>
> admin_level and place
Before you over-simplify, let me point out a couple things:
1. Not all of the US is incorporated. In the Northeast, every tiny part
of land is incorpora
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar
> wrote:
>> It is for this reason that I prefer underscores myself.
>>
>> So service=drive_through it is?
>
> I think so.
>
> Could we also start recording deprecated synonyms on the wik
My thoughts are mixed in below.
*On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:17, Peter Budny wrote:
*
>
> * Antony Pegg writes:
>
> > tagging admin area / populated centers / labels in USA seems to come down
> to* *
> > two main tags:
> >
> > admin_level and place
>
> Before you over-simplify, let me point out a
2010/10/20 Peter Budny :
> 2. Defining how "important" a city is (and thus, how big its label on
> the map should be) is a tricky thing to do. Population is certainly a
> large factor, but how do you define this? The City of Atlanta is the
> #33 most populous city in the US, with 540,000 people,
"Andrew S. J. Sawyer" writes:
> My thoughts are mixed in below.
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:17, Peter Budny wrote:
>
> Antony Pegg writes:
>
> > tagging admin area / populated centers / labels in USA seems to
> > come down to two main tags:
> >
> > admin_level and pla
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:06 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/10/20 Peter Budny :
> > 2. Defining how "important" a city is (and thus, how big its label on
> > the map should be) is a tricky thing to do. Population is certainly a
> > large factor, but how do you de
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Peter Budny wrote:
> "Andrew S. J. Sawyer" writes:
>
> > My thoughts are mixed in below.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:17, Peter Budny wrote:
> >
> > Antony Pegg writes:
> >
> > > tagging admin area / populated centers / labels in USA seems to
> >
Brad Neuhauser writes:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:06 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>
> 2010/10/20 Peter Budny :
> > 2. Defining how "important" a city is (and thus, how big its label on
> > the map should be) is a tricky thing to do. Population is certainly a
> > large fact
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Brad Neuhauser
wrote:
> From the place page:
> "In most Western countries, the status of a location (whether it is a
> city/town/etc.), is decided by the government, and is not a function of
> size. ***But most OSM communities of those countries have made a conven
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Brad Neuhauser
> wrote:
> > From the place page:
> > "In most Western countries, the status of a location (whether it is a
> > city/town/etc.), is decided by the government, and is not a function of
> >
Well, additional reasons for the density of place names in some regions, and
the sparcity in other regions, are: (1) not all of the US uses the same
hierarchy of administrative units; (2) some parts of the US are much more
densely occupied than others; and (3) the administrative units in the wes
On 10/20/2010 11:35 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Brad Neuhauser
wrote:
From the place page:
"In most Western countries, the status of a location (whether it is a
city/town/etc.), is decided by the government, and is not a function of
size. ***But most OSM comm
On 10/20/2010 11:53 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
Well, additional reasons for the density of place names in some
regions, and the sparcity in other regions, are: (1) not all of the
US uses the same hierarchy of administrative units; (2) some parts of
the US are much more densely occupied than othe
On 10/20/2010 06:34 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
> I suppose we could just tag all place markers with a
> city_dominance_score= tag... or we could just add a step in the
> rendering pipeline to calculate it automatically from various datasets
> and some rules.
I think we should have something in the OS
On 10/20/2010 12:16 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
On 10/20/2010 11:53 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
Well, additional reasons for the density of place names in some
regions, and the sparsity in other regions, are: (1) not all of the
US uses the same hierarchy of administrative units; (2) some parts of
the
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:06 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> another approach from the same page is titled "dominance" where
> dominance expresses the distance to the next "higher" (in terms of
> importance / population) place. The higher (in terms of distance) the
> more dominant.
>
> This serv
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
[ ... ]
> I forgot to mention control cities
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_city).
> These are cities that are designated for use on highway signs to
> indicate which direction you're heading. These should definitely appear
> on the
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
> (4) some people correctly use the place=* tag to reflect the government of
> a place rather than the population because they put the population in the
> population=* tag.
Fixed for you.
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2010/10/20 Peter Budny :
>> 1) whether this matrix influences what "place" level the city
>> gets (or maybe these are all large enough cities, so this point
>> doesn't matter)
>
> I think that if this dominance scheme (or something like it) were used,
> place= would become irrelevant except to mark
On 10/20/2010 12:57 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
(4) some people correctly use the place=* tag to reflect the government of
a place rather than the population because they put the population in the
population=* tag.
Fixed for you.
Sorry, but
2010/10/20 Alex Mauer :
> Is there some reason it would need to be repeated over and over for every
> country?
>
> I recognize the idea of American exceptionalism, but come on!
actually this never worked well, and in Germany and Italy people are
not following these definitions strictly (but ofte
Please note that the US TIGER imported city boundaries do use place=*
for the actual type of place it is. Thus the claim that there's a
population-based standard in the US is false.
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
> On 10/20/2010 12:57 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
>>>
>>> (4) some people correctly use the place=* tag to reflect the government
>>> of
>>> a place rather than the population because they
On 10/20/2010 01:06 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2010/10/20 Alex Mauer:
Is there some reason it would need to be repeated over and over for every
country?
I recognize the idea of American exceptionalism, but come on!
actually this never worked well, and in Germany and Italy people are
not
2010/10/20 Alex Mauer :
> The definitions are well-established.
but they are not reflected in the (international/main part of) the
wiki for key=place.
I don't know if the British do tag strictly according to the place
description, but I know that Italians and Germans don't. In Europe a
town can
On 10/20/2010 01:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
I did and saw no guidelines for the US. I looked at existing tagging
and there was no standard (population-based for nodes but type of
government-based for areas).
You saw guidelines for OSM, and apparently took it upon yourself to
ignore them be
I agree,
also here in germany its not defined what a kiosk offers.
Mostly it sells stuff like lottery-stuff, small tourism-stuff, papers,
food and drinks, sweets, ice-cream and so on.
But generall not all kiosks are selling food and not all of them
ice-cream and even not all of them are selling
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
> On 10/20/2010 01:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
>>
>> I did and saw no guidelines for the US. I looked at existing tagging
>> and there was no standard (population-based for nodes but type of
>> government-based for areas).
>
> You saw guideline
On 10/20/2010 01:24 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2010/10/20 Alex Mauer:
The definitions are well-established.
but they are not reflected in the (international/main part of) the
wiki for key=place.
Oh? Every language version of
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place says approximatel
2010/10/20 Alex Mauer :
> IMO that just means that rendering needs to be based purely and directly on
> population numbers, or we need some higher numbers (1 000 000 =
> metropolis[1] 10 000 000 = megacity[2]? ) It might be useful to use a
> relation to group separate legal-cities with their core
2010/10/20 Alex Mauer :
> On 10/20/2010 01:24 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>> The definitions are well-established.
>>
>> but they are not reflected in the (international/main part of) the
>> wiki for key=place.
>
> Oh? Every language version of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place
> say
Richard Weait writes:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
>> I forgot to mention control cities
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_city).
>> These are cities that are designated for use on highway signs to
>> indicate which direction you're heading. These
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew wrote:
> There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
> and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are not points to put on a
> map.
I think you're right here, though I probably would indicate the
township boundaries
On 10/20/2010 01:43 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
I guess that Tübingen is more known to the average German then
Reutlingen, but that's just a guess. As written before, traditionally
cartographers gave more importance to Tübingen, while in current
automated internet cartography Tübingen looses a
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
> Perhaps we need to shift the discussion to actually figuring out a better
> replacement for place=*?
place=incorporated?
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Alex Mauer writes:
> On 10/20/2010 01:43 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> I guess that Tübingen is more known to the average German then
>> Reutlingen, but that's just a guess. As written before, traditionally
>> cartographers gave more importance to Tübingen, while in current
>> automated inter
I am not aware of any location in the USA (or anywhere else in the world, for
that matter) where a downtown was torn down for fear of riots. There are a few
cities where large numbers of buildings have been abandoned by their former
owners because of the collapse of the local economy, after the
Alex Mauer writes:
> On 10/20/2010 12:16 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
>
> (7) Neither Mapnik nor Osmarender can handle labeling cities which are
> stored as multipolygons. They only know how to deal with nodes.
Multipolygon handling is pretty bad in general, not just for city
labels. In particular, s
Anthony writes:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew wrote:
>> There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
>> and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are not points to put on a
>> map.
>
> I think you're right here, though I probably would indica
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
> Alex Mauer writes:
>
>> On 10/20/2010 12:16 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
>>
>> (7) Neither Mapnik nor Osmarender can handle labeling cities which are
>> stored as multipolygons. They only know how to deal with nodes.
>
> Multipolygon handling is pre
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
> Anthony writes:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew wrote:
>>> There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
>>> and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are not points to put on a
>>> map.
>
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
> Anthony writes:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew wrote:
>>> There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
>>> and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are not points to put on a
>>> map.
>
On 10/20/2010 02:49 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
Anthony writes:
I think you're right here, though I probably would indicate the
township boundaries on most maps in a similar (though somewhat less
prominent) manner to county boundaries - at least at certain zoom
levels.
It sounds like you may have
On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my
understanding is you won’t find a chunk of land that is both
“city|village|etc.” and “township” simultaneously; cities
Anthony writes:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
>> Anthony writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew wrote:
There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in PA
and NJ, they are just county subdivisions, and are not poin
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
> On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
>>
>> Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
>> municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my
>> understanding is you won’t find a chunk of land that is
Dieter Driest may have heard a garbled description of "urban renewal", a
now-largely-discredited urban-planning technique where large areas of
substandard housing were torn down and replaced by government-built public
housing, what the British would term council estates. Some of the land was
u
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
> Anthony writes:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
>>> Anthony writes:
>>>
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim McAndrew wrote:
> There are townships in other states that are managed differently, but in
>
On 10/20/2010 03:14 PM, Anthony wrote:
Only in those 11 states, right?
I'm surprised admin level isn't already handled defined on a state by
state level.
Why treat it differently depending on the state?
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
> On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
>>
>> Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
>> municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my
>> understanding is you won’t find a chunk of land that is
Not all US states use the same administrative hierarchy.
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On 10/20/2010 03:14 PM, Anthony wrote:
> Only in those 11 states, ri
Anthony writes:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
>> On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
>>>
>>> Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
>>> municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my
>>> understanding is you won’t fin
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
> On 10/20/2010 03:14 PM, Anthony wrote:
>>
>> Only in those 11 states, right?
>>
>> I'm surprised admin level isn't already handled defined on a state by
>> state level.
>
> Why treat it differently depending on the state?
Because states do thin
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Anthony wrote:
> None of this has anything to do with place=*, which discusses
> settlements, not administrative divisions.
IOW, a municipality may also be a settlement, but then, it may not be.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
> On 10/20/20
2010/10/20 John F. Eldredge :
> I am not aware of any location in the USA (or anywhere else in the world, for
> that matter) where a downtown was torn down for fear of riots. There are a
> few cities where large numbers of buildings have been abandoned by their
> former owners because of the co
On 10/20/2010 03:24 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
Not all US states use the same administrative hierarchy.
Yeah, but for example we use the same admin_level regardless of whether
it’s called a county, a borough, or a parish; or a township vs. a town, etc.
When we’re using different words for t
On 10/20/2010 03:21 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Peter Budny wrote:
So that would give us
County -> admin_level=6
Township (if they exist) -> admin_level=7
City/municipality/town/village boundary -> admin_level=8
New Jersey and Pennsylvania townships should be at th
On 10/20/2010 03:23 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
admin_level=7 it is.
Only in those states, of course. In Pennsylvania and New Jersey (and
apparently the Dakotas?) it should remain admin_level=8.
Why the Dakotas?
—Alex Mauer “hawke”
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
> > On 10/20/2010 03:01 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
> >>
> >> Townships are at the same level as cities/towns/villages/other
> >> municipalities[1], [2]. I’m sure someone correct me if I’m wron
Detroit is an example of areas being largely abandoned for economic reasons.
It has been heavily dependent upon the automobile-manufacturing industry for
decades, and as the market share of the US auto manufacturers shrunk, so did
the number of jobs available in Detroit. It is a larger-scale v
Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
In Pennsylvania: "School districts can comprise of one single
municipality, like the School District of Philadelphia or can comprise
of multiple municipalities."
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_Pennsylvania)
So, are Pennsylvania school d
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
> On 10/20/2010 03:23 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
>>>
>>> admin_level=7 it is.
>>
>> Only in those states, of course. In Pennsylvania and New Jersey (and
>> apparently the Dakotas?) it should remain admin_level=8.
>
> Why the Dakotas?
Read the li
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Anthony wrote:
> Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
>
> In Pennsylvania: "School districts can comprise of one single
> municipality, like the School District of Philadelphia or can comprise
> of multiple municipalities."
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loca
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Anthony wrote:
>> Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
>>
>> In Pennsylvania: "School districts can comprise of one single
>> municipality, like the School District of Philadelphia or can comprise
>>
Anthony writes:
> Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
>
> In Pennsylvania: "School districts can comprise of one single
> municipality, like the School District of Philadelphia or can comprise
> of multiple municipalities."
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_Pennsylvania)
>
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Anthony wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Anthony wrote:
>>> Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
>>>
>>> In Pennsylvania: "School districts can comprise of one single
>>> municipality, like
On 10/20/2010 04:12 PM, Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Anthony wrote:
Okay, here's another wrench to throw in:
In Pennsylvania: "School districts can comprise of one single
municipality, like the School District of Ph
One example of a difference would be whether or not cities are subordinate to
counties. In Tennessee, for example, both cities and towns are subordinate to
counties, which in turn are subordinate to the state. In Virginia, towns are
subordinate to counties, which are then subordinate to the sta
On 10/20/2010 04:07 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote:
Only in those states, of course. In Pennsylvania and New Jersey (and
apparently the Dakotas?) it should remain admin_level=8.
FYI, it's the same with Minnesota: cities and townships are legally
different forms of municipalities (one incorporated, o
2010/10/20 John F. Eldredge :
> Dieter Driest may have heard a garbled description of "urban renewal", a
> now-largely-discredited urban-planning technique where large areas of
> substandard housing were torn down and replaced by government-built public
> housing, what the British would term cou
2010/10/20 John F. Eldredge :
> Detroit has had some notable riots, particularly during the civil-rights
>struggle of the 1960s, but the economic collapse began a generation later.
and now look when the demolishions were planned and executed.
cheers,
Martin
Not that it matters greatly for this discussion, but in Minnesota
municipalities do include cities and townships. Ex:
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?year=2010&id=462.352 (subd. 2) or
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=200.02 (subd. 9). Definitions
aren't the same in every state...
On W
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 15:46, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Anthony wrote:
> > I'm not aware of any hyphens which are converted into underscores, let
> alone
> > that this is "predominantly" the case. And even if it is "predominantly"
>
> man_made=pier
> power=sub_sta
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