Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 16/06/2010 07:17, Stephen Hope a écrit : > I'm a little bit worried about using admin_level, as it has > connotations of control, not just level. It could be misinterpreted > as who controls an airfield, rather than how important it is. > > What you're trying to do here is give a renderer expli

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread Greg Troxel
Zeke Farwell writes: > Classifying by runway length does make some sense to me, but I really have > no idea how Mapnik or any other renderer works. Not sure if this would in > fact be easy or not. It also means a renderer needs the runway tagged as a > way or polygon in order to make a decisi

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread Zeke Farwell
Lots of good discussion here. We seem to be split into two camps: 1. Those who think an airport specific, verifiable, subset of of tags would be best 2. Those who think a general importance tag with numeric values would be best Both have benefits and drawbacks in my mind. Either way

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/16 John Smith : > The problem with using subjective tagging is you can't easily quantify > it, where as things like air traffic is objective. But what you can do is compare it to the surrounding / context / nationwide / worldwide. It's like the highway key for tertiary, secondary, primary.

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/16 Zeke Farwell : > Those who think a general importance tag with numeric values would be best ...> I think a general importance=1,2,3,4... tag to serve as a renderer hint has > merit as well.  This could be used by many features in OSM.  ... FYI, there is already a draft for this in the wi

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 02:12, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > But what you can do is compare it to the surrounding / context / > nationwide / worldwide. It's like the highway key for tertiary, In terms of airports, you really can only compare them on a world wide basis, it doesn't matter where a small airp

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread Dave F.
John Smith wrote: > On 15 June 2010 13:33, Zeke Farwell wrote: > >> Steve, >> I like this as a possible solution as well. Perhaps the admin_level tag >> could be used? Same as for boundaries. The challenges in my eyes are not >> making the tagging scheme overly complicated, and making if ver

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > FYI, there is already a draft for this in the wiki: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Importance Great! I like it. Zeke ___ Tagging mailin

[Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
So a trunk road crosses a primary road, but you're not allowed to turn at the crossing. Instead you have to turn before or after and loop around to get from one to the other. If this connecting status is the sole reason through traffic would have for using the road, how should it be tagged? trunk?

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:20 PM, John Smith wrote: > In terms of airports, you really can only compare them on a world wide > basis, it doesn't matter where a small airport is, it will never have > the same level of importance as a major international hub like LAX. I disagree a bit here. You c

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 14:10, Zeke Farwell wrote: > I disagree a bit here. You can choose to compare airports on a world wide > basis (may be useful for an aviation specific map), or you can choose to > compare them based on relative, regional importance (more useful for a > general purpose map). If a

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:21 AM, John Smith wrote: > Everything you talked about above is specifically about rendering, not > about mapping, in terms of mapping airports you really need to base > things on a 1:1 basis, rather than start thinking about pre-processing > before rendering, maybe it's

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 14:40, Zeke Farwell wrote: > at low zoom levels, but showing the most import is desirable. What's most > important in one area may be very different from what's important in another > area. That's all I'm saying. I know what you are saying, but this is outstanding on a lot of th

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Zeke Farwell wrote: > Lots of good discussion here.  We seem to be split into two camps: > > Those who think an airport specific, verifiable, subset of of tags would be > best > Those who think a general importance tag with numeric values would be best 3: Those w

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-16 Thread charlie
Nathan Edgars II (nerou...@gmail.com) wrote: > So a trunk road crosses a primary road, but you're not allowed to turn > at the crossing. Instead you have to turn before or after and loop > around to get from one to the other. If this connecting status is the > sole reason through traffic would hav

[Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Charlie wrote: >Maybe you could think about it in terms of speed of travel - do cars >typically travel at high speeds, moderate speeds or residential speeds >- and is the road multi-lane, two-lane etc? That's not what highway classification is for: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway __