Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

On 19-Jun-17 08:30 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2017-06-18 17:44 GMT+02:00 Joachim >: Currently we categorize settlements by number of inhabitants, modified by importance. I would rather not open another dimension. The type of of a settlement can be d

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-18 17:44 GMT+02:00 Joachim : > Currently we categorize settlements by number of inhabitants, modified > by importance. I would rather not open another dimension. The type of > of a settlement can be deduced by processing the landuse inside. If > there is use in a binary (yes/no) property i

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

I agree that landuse should usually get no names. If a settlement has a name which is used only for administrative or postal purposes there is no need for a place=* feature, just use boundary=administrative/postal_code. If the dispersed settlement is perceived as an settlement (I'm living in...)

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

ag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements sent from a phone > On 17. Jun 2017, at 00:20, > wrote: > > A place=* does not just consist of a small built up area with it’s church, > shop and community centre,

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sent from a phone > On 17. Jun 2017, at 00:20, > wrote: > > A place=* does not just consist of a small built up area with it’s church, > shop and community centre, it usually includes a certain amount of greenbelt > and rural area surrounding that as well. that's not the place=city/town/

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

Sent from Mail for Windows 10 I believe that too many people are confusing the landuse=residential with the boundary=* tags. There should not be any area names, hamlet names, community names attached to a landuse tag. The landuse tag is to indicate the use of the land (residential, industrial,

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

2017-06-16 19:52 GMT+01:00 Dudley Ibbett : > I’m slightly confused by this discussion. I live in a “hamlet” which is > within a “dispersed settlement”. “Dispersed settlement” describes the > pattern of isolated dwellings, farmyards, hamlets, villages etc. on a > much larger scale. > > > > We don

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

dley From: Martin Koppenhoefer Sent: 16 June 2017 13:56 To: Jerry Clough - OSM; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements 2017-06-16 15:50 GMT+02:00 Jerry Clough - OSM mailto:sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk>>: In s

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2017-06-16 15:50 GMT+02:00 Jerry Clough - OSM : > In summary: we have an excellent source of mapped dispersed settlements in > Europe; absence of any specific tags for such places has only slightly > impeded mapping (although perhaps a rigorous insistence on locality having > no population may mak

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

under an open license. | | | | . From: Martin Koppenhoefer To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Sent: Friday, 16 June 2017, 11:25 Subject: Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements sent from a phone > On 16. Jun 2017, at 11:45, Warin <

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

Also note that, at least here in Spain, in a dispersed settlement the 'streets' usually have no name and the postal address of the building is given by the name of the settlement and a housenumber. So this is a valid postal address "Lugar Anocheza, 10" where "Lugar" means place. ___

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sent from a phone > On 16. Jun 2017, at 11:45, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > A minimum of 10 residential dwellings I'd set the minimum as 2-3 (above isolated dwelling) > each separated from the others by at least 500 meters, with a maximum overall > area of 5 square kilometres

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

On 16-Jun-17 06:04 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 16. Jun 2017, at 09:42, Javier Sánchez Portero wrote: Any of the two proposals, a new tag or change place=locality, will be fine. I'm strongly opposing changing locality to be used for settlements as well. +1. Means

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sent from a phone > On 16. Jun 2017, at 09:42, Javier Sánchez Portero > wrote: > > Any of the two proposals, a new tag or change place=locality, will be fine. I'm strongly opposing changing locality to be used for settlements as well. Cheers, Martin __

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

Hello I would like to say that here, in Spain, we are in the same case. The goverment office for population census give in [1] for each unit (settlement) two values refering to the nucleus population and to the dispersed population. Very frequently, there are units with only dispersed population a

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sent from a phone > On 15. Jun 2017, at 06:29, Vao Matua wrote: > > A landuse= tag of Dispersed_Residential or Residential_Agriculture would be > helpful and more useful than place=locality or place=isolated_dwelling you can tag actual landuse (residential or agricultural, etc.), and will

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sent from a phone > On 15. Jun 2017, at 13:35, mbranco2 wrote: > > These toponyms are not strictly related to the (few) dispersed houses, but > also to the surrounding woods, meadows, fields, etc if the toponyms are not related to a settlement or part of it, locality is fine as value for p

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sent from a phone > On 15. Jun 2017, at 00:11, John Willis wrote: > > What is your definition of it? a settlement consisting of dispersed houses, i.e. lots of space between them (more then just the garden), e.g. fields. Absence of a core/nucleus/centre. Wikipedia has an article about them

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Martin began this thread after a discussion in the Italian List [1] . Problem arise because we've official toponyms (they are used in addresses, in scarcely inhabited areas, where roads have not an official name). These toponyms are not strictly related to the (few) dispersed houses, but also to th

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

If the land is not used for agriculture but for residences then landuse=residential. Most of the land is used for agriculture? Then landuse=farmland. Where the land between the buildings is used for both .. I'd map it landuse=farmland. And then where a residence occurs - map the building, bu

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

Here in Ethopia most of the population lives in a rural setting. Sometimes dwellings are grouped into villages, but other areas are more dispersed. Here is an example of a residential agriculture area http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/6.93275/38.42255 A landuse= tag of Dispersed_Residential or

Re: [Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

What is your definition of it? Javbw > On Jun 14, 2017, at 11:31 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > Looking at the currently available place values, there are still some gaps to > fill. IMHO we should have something for dispersed settlements / scattered > settlements, as locality is for p

[Tagging] dispersed settlements / scattered settlements

Looking at the currently available place values, there are still some gaps to fill. IMHO we should have something for dispersed settlements / scattered settlements, as locality is for places where the name doesn't refer to something inhabited. Which term is better understood / used in the UK, disp