Re: [Tagging] Campaniles tagging

2018-03-12 Thread Simone Saviolo
2018-03-12 7:54 GMT+01:00 Tomasz Wójcik : > Currently there are 2 tags for campaniles, which has no difference between > each other: > > * man_made=tower + tower:type=campanile > * man_made=campanile > > I think we should move "man_made=campanile" to "man_made=tower + > tower:type=campanile" combi

Re: [Tagging] Short-term parking zones

2018-01-16 Thread Simone Saviolo
2018-01-14 16:01 GMT+01:00 Matej Lieskovský : > Upon further analysis of empty relations, I suspect they will be far more > problematic than I expected. While it is on the wiki since 2010 and feels > like a powerful tool, it does not seem to be used (let alone supported by > consumers). > > My bad

Re: [Tagging] Short-term parking zones

2018-01-16 Thread Simone Saviolo
2018-01-15 11:07 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > On 14. Jan 2018, at 12:32, Matej Lieskovský > wrote: > > > > If you create a single empty relation with the details of the parking > zone rules, > > you can then tag every road with the id of the relation. > > It is basically a way of flipping

Re: [Tagging] Short-term parking zones

2018-01-16 Thread Simone Saviolo
2018-01-14 15:05 GMT+01:00 Matej Lieskovský : > Citation provided: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation#Size > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Size > > Notice that the border relation you linked is already version 790 (and > borders change far less often than roads). V

Re: [Tagging] Short-term parking zones

2018-01-16 Thread Simone Saviolo
2018-01-14 12:32 GMT+01:00 Matej Lieskovský : > Greetings, > > if you group all the streets in a single relation, the relation is likely > to be rather big. > This can be hard on the server. > You're saying that having a relation with 1000 objects in it is "hard on the server", instead suggesting

Re: [Tagging] winter tyres

2017-11-22 Thread Simone Saviolo
2017-11-16 13:55 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > I believe the question remains whether "winter_equipment" is sufficient or > if we want to distinguish. e.g. between winter tyres and snow chains or > spikes. There might also be different regulations for different kind of > vehicle, e.g. hgv, mo

Re: [Tagging] Adding directionality to stop signs

2017-03-21 Thread Simone Saviolo
2017-03-20 17:36 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt : > I am inserting them in quantity, but only in the simple way of a node on > the way. "My" stop signs apply to the nearest junction. This should in > principle allow a routing algorithm to determine the directionality of the > sign. I would consider havi

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=building_passage or covered=yes

2016-09-10 Thread Simone Saviolo
Yes, an obvious one: a building_passage *goes through a building* :) Semantically it is quite important to distinguish between a colonnade/arcade and a building passage (BTW, also arcades and colonnades have their own tag). covered=yes just implies that the building is over the highway, but it mig

Re: [Tagging] Removal of "amenity" from OSM tagging

2015-05-15 Thread Simone Saviolo
2015-05-15 1:27 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > On 14/05/2015 11:55 PM, pmailkeey . wrote: > >> amenity=pub is really just pub(=yes) etc. >> > > That is a better example .. to me a pub is a shop/building .. sells stuff > and is a building. As are restaurants, petrol stations etc. > No

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

2015-05-11 Thread Simone Saviolo
2015-05-11 1:41 GMT+02:00 Andrew MacKinnon : > How do you tag speed limits on curves and highway on/off ramps? At > least in Ontario, these speed limits are advisory only and signed with > a yellow sign (and sometimes on curves you will see a curve speed > limit sign and a higher general speed lim

Re: [Tagging] Tagging accepted payments at each toll lane

2015-03-06 Thread Simone Saviolo
2015-03-03 19:07 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt : > By the time you get to that level of tagging, > why not micro map each lane? > One of the reasons (not a good reason) is that when I and others did that we got bashed because of our pointlessly detailed representation, despite it being actually a good

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
2015-01-27 11:25 GMT+01:00 André Pirard : > On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote : > > 2015-01-26 15:28 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr : > >> On 26/01/2015 00:01, Simone Saviolo wrote: >> >>> http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w="patron_saint%3Ait"%3D*+global&R

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
2015-01-26 15:28 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr : > On 26/01/2015 00:01, Simone Saviolo wrote: > >> http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w="patron_saint%3Ait"%3D*+global&R >> >> I swear, I would think that there were more of these. patron_saint:it >> seems to be a c

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-25 Thread Simone Saviolo
http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w="patron_saint%3Ait"%3D*+global&R I swear, I would think that there were more of these. patron_saint:it seems to be a common suggestion for this purpose in Italian discussions about churches, I really thought we had more of them. Anyway, as you can see there are a few al

Re: [Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key

2014-08-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
2014-08-18 13:41 GMT+02:00 John Packer : > I'm not sure what is a gelateria. > Couldn't this be tagged simply with amenity=cafe + cuisine=ice_cream ? > Pretty much the same way as a pub could be tagged amenity=restaurant + cuisine=burgers + alcohol=yes. Regards, Simone _

Re: [Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key

2014-08-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
2014-08-14 10:40 GMT+02:00 Frederik Ramm : > Hi, > > On 08/14/2014 08:09 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > shop=ice_cream (710, documented but difference between using amenity and > > shop keys is not documented) -> amenity=ice_cream (4053) > > amenity=ice_cream sounds very strange to me. I can't i

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - cemetery=sector

2014-07-15 Thread Simone Saviolo
2014-07-14 16:04 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > thank you for setting this up. There are some comments on the talk-page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Cemetery_sector > Thanks! In my town, these got tagged as place=locality, and, while I couldn't agree the least w

Re: [Tagging] Suggestions for the correct tagging of Field borders

2014-06-13 Thread Simone Saviolo
2014-06-13 14:15 GMT+02:00 Simon Wüllhorst : > Hello Guys, > > currently I’m tagging the country around my place (farmland, farmyards, > meadow and so on). Farmlands are typically surrounded or seperated by small > areas/borders of several vegetations (trees bushes, at least in Germany), > called

Re: [Tagging] natural=cloud

2014-04-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
I reread this thread today, and what gave away the joke is that there is agreement. Most messages quote the previous one and comment "Great! Also...". Merry Christmas, Simone 2014-04-02 2:38 GMT+02:00 André Pirard : > On 2014-04-01 19:08, Pierre Knobel wrote : > > Hi all, > > I'm new on thi

Re: [Tagging] simple_brunnel : one node bridge like xing highway over waterway

2014-04-04 Thread Simone Saviolo
2014-04-03 22:42 GMT+02:00 Richard Z. : > > Don't dismiss that argument so casually. The current rule is that the > > way below the bridge should not share a node with the bridge itself. > > the current idea that culverts float bellow roads without having anything > common with them is not correct

Re: [Tagging] tag "covered" questions

2014-01-24 Thread Simone Saviolo
2014/1/24 Martin Koppenhoefer > > Am 24/gen/2014 um 07:46 schrieb Kytömaa Lauri : > > > > It's then only natural that they use tunnel=building_passage or even > tunnel=yes when they map these, totally without any regard to whether some > engineers or geologists or encyclopedia editors have restri

Re: [Tagging] How to map an household goods store?

2013-09-16 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/9/16 Philip Barnes > On Mon, 2013-09-16 at 05:47 +0200, Stefano Fraccaro wrote: > > I have some shops that sell only household goods like dishes, pots, > > coffee makers, blenders, oven thermometers, ... > > IMHO "shop=supermarket" and "shop=general" are non appropriate. Which > > is the cor

Re: [Tagging] leisure=swimming_pool for the pool or the complex?

2013-07-22 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/7/22 Bryce Nesbitt > After reading > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dswimming_pool I can't > figure out. > Is this tag for the actual wet area of a pool, or the fenced area of a > pool facility? The page spends > a lot of words about past controversy, but seems silent on th

Re: [Tagging] Proposed relation give_way

2013-03-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/3/16 Philip Barnes > Absolutely wrong, obeying traffic rules is 100% the drivers > responsibility. There already enough numpties on the road, without > giving them another reason to blame the satnav. > > A satnav should only use the presence of give ways and stops to > calculate routing time

Re: [Tagging] Proposed relation give_way

2013-03-15 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/3/15 Pieren > > It is for navigation. Imagine a corner right before an intersection: the > > navigator would warn you that you'll have to give way or to stop, and > you'll > > prepare the corner accordingly. > > I don't know any commercial car navigation system that warns you about > give-wa

Re: [Tagging] Proposed relation give_way

2013-03-14 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/3/14 Pieren > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Richard Fairhurst > > That's fiendishly clever given that OpenStreetMap didn't exist nine years > > ago... > > ^^ > But, a silly question : where does it help to put so much efforts in > tagging a give-way traffic sign ? It's not for routing. I

Re: [Tagging] Proposed relation give_way

2013-03-14 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/3/14 Steve Doerr > I suppose the main downside is that it requires a relation. I've not > mapped give-way relationships myself, but it would be good to map them, and > the node method seems simpler and would involve less database bloat than > adding a relation at, basically, every junction.

Re: [Tagging] Proposed relation give_way

2013-03-14 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/3/14 Chris Hill > On 14/03/13 14:43, Simone Saviolo wrote: > >> I noticed that the proposal for a give_way type relationship [1] has been >> in draft for nine solid years. It seems a great solution to the current >> limitations of highway=give_way and highway=stop,

[Tagging] Proposed relation give_way

2013-03-14 Thread Simone Saviolo
Hi everyone! I noticed that the proposal for a give_way type relationship [1] has been in draft for nine solid years. It seems a great solution to the current limitations of highway=give_way and highway=stop, also because it reuses a tagging scheme that is widely accepted both by mappers and by co

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/2/27 Peter Wendorff > You "call for editor support" for a new external ID that's not > controllable. > You want it to be a replacement (well, you agree to keep the old tags, but > your argumentation is that the old tags are not necessary any more with the > existence of Wikidata. > > This c

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/2/27 Pieren > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Simone Saviolo > wrote: > >> Because it might create inconsistencies. > > Does not, as I pointed above. You don't use two tags at the same time > for a > > single piece of information. At most, you use a sec

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/2/27 Pieren > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Simone Saviolo > wrote: > > > This proposal improves data consistency and relationship between data. > Are > > we really willing to reject it because the data we put in may be wrong? > > No, Because it duplic

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/2/27 Pieren > In my turn for questions, what are you doing if the wikidata is > refering to McDonald's but the tag name or operator is telling "Burger > King" ? > This proposal improves data consistency and relationship between data. Are we really willing to reject it because the data we pu

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
I'm honestly appalled by some of the criticism here. I think this is a great proposal and will be very useful once both sides are solid, with WikiData hosting more and more information and OSM linking lots of objects to a WikiData node. As to the McDonalds/McDonalds Deutschland issue, think of a T

Re: [Tagging] Landuse vs Place - conversation at talk-key-landuse in wiki

2013-02-15 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/2/15 Brad Neuhauser > I would disagree that place=neighbourhood implies landuse=residential: I > know of neighborhoods that are mostly industrial or commercial landuse. > Brad +1. Simone ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http:/

Re: [Tagging] Resorts

2013-02-01 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/2/1 Steve Bennett > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Дмитрий Киселев > wrote: > > > I didn't like leisure=resort because in such case we will have > > leisure inside leisure in case of swimmingpools or pitch inside > > resort. > > IMHO, that is of absolutely no concern. There's no rule agai

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-23 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/1/23 Serge Wroclawski > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > > It shouldn't be too hard to make a JOSM add-on that converts 3 letters > into > > 2. So that's no problem. > > You seem to be not seeing the point. > > Two letter days of the week (DOW) may be standard in Germ

Re: [Tagging] Names on relations and not component ways

2013-01-07 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/1/6 Werner Hoch > > I am wondering what current best practice is. > > Should name be applied to both component ways and relation, > > or is application of name to relation sufficient. > > For waterways, adding one name to ways and all names to the relation is > at least "useful". Longer wate

Re: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings

2013-01-02 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/1/2 Martin Koppenhoefer > 2013/1/2 Simone Saviolo : > > What you are trying to tag is the > > *use* of the building, and not a property of the building per se. Unless > > it's a mall, a retail store's interior is not structurally different > from an > &g

Re: [Tagging] Multiple purposes for buildings

2013-01-02 Thread Simone Saviolo
2013/1/1 Svavar Kjarrval > That's, of course, possible. The question was what value should be in the > building tag in the building polygon. Of course I'd like to implement the > level of detail you suggest but it doesn't answer the original question. > IMO, the question is conceptually wrong.

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

2012-11-26 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/11/23 Kytömaa Lauri > >The idea is that with a 30 driving rules list applying to an agglomération > > If it's just the traffic rules urban vs. rural, there's the tag (with 37 > 000+ uses) > > zone:traffic=**:rural > zone:traffic=**:urban > > where ** is the two letter country code. > > Don't

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

2012-11-22 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/11/21 A.Pirard.Papou > Hi, > > I wanted to map the agglomeration of my village and I am wondering again. > [...] > > How do we tag agglomérations? > Currently, with place=* and their relative info on a closed way. I have written a proposal which aims to change this tagging scheme: [1] H

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: expanded address tags for US

2012-11-22 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/11/21 David ``Smith'' > Also, the street name in addresses doesn't always match the name of the > street. For example, there are houses on Old Walker Road which retain > Walker Rd addresses. And the name Lilly Chapel Opossum Run Road is so > long, the local post office recognizes addresses

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-19 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/11/18 Philip Barnes > On Sun, 2012-11-18 at 21:26 +0100, Colin Smale wrote: > > Phil, there's a difference between routing calculation (which neither > > knows nor cares about road names, numbers, signposts etc) and how the > > result of the calculation is presented to the user. Then you nee

Re: [Tagging] Enforcement of access rules

2012-10-29 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/29 Martin Vonwald > 2012/10/29 Simone Saviolo : > > As to the enforcement_device tag, I guess I'll have to make a proposal? > > Have a look at this: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:Surveillance > > It is already in use: > http:

Re: [Tagging] Enforcement of access rules

2012-10-29 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/24 Simone Saviolo > How would I go about formalizing this "proposal"? Do I need to make a > proposal page? I'm not trying to add a feature, just to expand on one. > Since I've received no replies, I'll proceed to add the "access" value

Re: [Tagging] Places & admin boundaries

2012-10-29 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/28 Alberto > > 1) Polygon vs point for "Populated urban areas" (place=city, town...): > > Hello, we talked about this problem in Italian list [1]. > We agreed that boundaries and places should not be confused because in > general they refer to different things. > We also agreed that taggi

Re: [Tagging] Enforcement of access rules

2012-10-24 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/24 Martin Koppenhoefer > 2012/10/24 Simone Saviolo : > > I agree, but a speed "camera" is not actually a camera. > > > -1, it is, and it is combined with a device to measure the speed of the > vehicle. > Ok, I see what you mean. Then I su

Re: [Tagging] Enforcement of access rules

2012-10-24 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/24 Martin Koppenhoefer > 2012/10/24 Simone Saviolo : > > I wish to map the cameras that my municipality is installing these days > to > > enforce the access restriction in the ZTL ( = limited traffic area). I > think > > the most appropriate structure to do th

[Tagging] Enforcement of access rules

2012-10-24 Thread Simone Saviolo
I wish to map the cameras that my municipality is installing these days to enforce the access restriction in the ZTL ( = limited traffic area). I think the most appropriate structure to do this would be the enforcement relation [1], but none of the listed types of enforcement is up to the task. I

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-19 Thread Simone Saviolo
Ok, I'm done trying to nitpick. I too am now convinced that we should only have one website reference, be it a regular website or a Facebook page or a Twitter stream or whatever. Frederik and Peter, don't worry, I'm not trying to make OSM a marketing support. I am convinced that a website is an ab

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/18 Janko Mihelić > 2012/10/18 Simone Saviolo > >> >> Ideally yes - but keep in mind that not all amenities are mapped, and not >> a lot (<-- euphemism) of them have the opening hours. Of course, this >> shouldn't stop us from thinking about

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/18 John F. Eldredge > If you can generate a custom rendering of a particular geographical area, > opening (and closing) hours could be useful. For example, if you are > scheduling an all-day business meeting that includes a lunch break, it > would be useful to give attendees a map that s

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
Peter, Eugene, I think we've reached consensus here (have these words ever been said in an OSM mailing list? :-D ). Of the tags Eugene listed about the restaurant in Berlin, I'd only tentatively keep link:facebook and link:google+, but I am not able to judge how much of the content is relevant and

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/18 Peter Wendorff > Cuisine often is essential even for the basic map stuff: a map about > pizzarias vs. a map about chinese restaurants, or a map that has distinct > icons for different food and drink facilities. > The operator might be interesting, too, e.g. to get all parking spaces >

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/18 Eugene Alvin Villar > opening hours and operators [...] are intrinsic > properties of these amenities. Links to web pages *about* the amenity > on third-party websites are not intrinsic properties. > I think this is exactly what we disagree about. If I, the owner of a shop, create a F

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/18 Eugene Alvin Villar > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Simone Saviolo > wrote: > > 2012/10/12 Eugene Alvin Villar > >> > >> However, I personally don't think your example of putting the URLs to > >> a place's webpage on foursquare, Go

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways (2nd Part)

2012-10-17 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/17 Martin Koppenhoefer > 2012/10/17 Martin Vonwald : > > Same image as before: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Lanes_Example_2.png > > > > Now consider part 4 to 6. At what point would you split the way coming > > from part 4? > > a) Before the end of part 4 > > b) At the end

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways (2nd Part)

2012-10-17 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/17 Martin Vonwald > Hi (again)! > > Thanks for all the answers. I would like to ask three more (the last > one for this week - promised!): > > Same image as before: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Lanes_Example_2.png > > Now consider part 4 to 6. At what point would you split th

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

2012-10-17 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/17 Kytömaa Lauri > >Only part 5 is relevant. > Having just returned from my (mapping) trip, and having finally > browsed through all these messages on this subjet, I don't think > anybody mentioned it explicitly: You can't consider only part 5. I think he means that, for lack of a bette

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

2012-10-16 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/16 Colin Smale > Are you seriously suggesting that emergency services will trust a satnav > in preference to their own eyes and brains? > I hope not, and I hope this is true for everyone and not only for emergency vehicle drivers. However, not all places are within eye distance. An ambu

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

2012-10-16 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/16 Colin Smale > There's maybe a difference between the case of two lanes in the same > direction, and two lanes in opposite directions. > There's none. If a solid line is painted between lanes going in opposite directions, it's legally impossible to cross the line. If a solid line is p

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

2012-10-16 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/16 Martin Koppenhöfer > > > Am 16/ott/2012 um 11:28 schrieb Markus Lindholm >: > > > To be able to do proper routing for emergency vehicles perhaps it > > would be a good idea to introduce something like landuse=highway that > > would denote an area suitable for motor vehicles and that i

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

2012-10-16 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/15 Philip Barnes > The law varies from country to country. In the UK, it is legal to cross > a solid white line to turn into a side road, or driveway. You can also > cross one to overtake a slow moving vehicle, such as a cyclist or > tractor. > > In France, where it is illegal to cross a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

2012-10-16 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/15 Colin Smale > I don't understand why emergency vehicles are so important in this > discussion. Because OSM publicly advertises the fact that its maps are being used in the Gaza's strip by emergency vehicles that would otherwise have no map? Just to name one. Also because emergency ve

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

2012-10-16 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/16 Paul Johnson > I'd go with option b. Despite being a single way, you're committed to > taking the ramp by that point (due to the double-white solid lines), making > it functionally an extension of the ramp. The OP explicitly asks you to focus on section 5 alone, NOT on section 5 as

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

2012-10-16 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/15 Johan C > I think there's some confusion here. Imagic's question was on a motorway > example. Where did you get this from? Sure, he referred to a picture with the model of a motorway, but he esplicitly said "consider only section 5". We're not talking about that section 5 *on a motor

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

2012-10-15 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/15 Tobias Knerr > On 15.10.2012 10:56, Martin Vonwald wrote: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Lanes_Example_2.png > > > > Only part 5 is relevant. Assume there is no physical separation just a > > double line between the upper and lower two lanes. How would you tag > > this: >

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/12 Pieren > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Simone Saviolo > wrote: > > > by that reasoning, we should remove all the bars, all the shops, all the > > restaurants, all the companies, all the fuel stations, all the parking > > information (a free parki

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/12 Pieren > On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Simone Saviolo > wrote: > > > I think that contact info of an amenity (allow me to group shops, > > restaurants, bars, and companies under that umbrella just for a minute) > > should be considered all of equ

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-12 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/12 Eugene Alvin Villar > However, I personally don't think your example of putting the URLs to > a place's webpage on foursquare, Google+, Yelp, TripAdvisor, etc. is > the way to go. > > OSM is not a link directory so adding many such links on the OSM > database doesn't seem appropriate.

Re: [Tagging] Naming boundary ways

2012-10-04 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/4 A.Pirard.Papou > Q1: which naming of border line piece do you consider valid and which do > you prefer? > Q1a: Municipality1 — Municipality2? > Q1b: Highest-level1 — Highest-level2 (Europe — Asia) > Q1c: Municipality1 — Municipality2 (Highest-level1 — Highest-level2) ? > Q1d: nothing >

Re: [Tagging] Coastline around a bridge?

2012-10-03 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/10/3 Martin Koppenhoefer > 2012/10/3 Martin Vonwald : > > Hi! > > > > Any reason why the coastline should go around a bridge? > > > > > http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=coastline&lon=5.13984&lat=52.32549&zoom=16&opacity=0.55&overlays=coastline_error_lines,line_not_a_ring,line_overlap,lin

Re: [Tagging] name of river/admin area

2012-09-05 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/9/4 Colin Smale > On 04/09/2012 15:30, Phil! Gold wrote: > >> I fully agree that there's no way to set a global standard; it should be >> left to the locals, who know the features best. >> >> But how local is local? It's obvious that a single standard for the > whole world is not going to h

Re: [Tagging] Shark tagging

2012-08-02 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/8/2 Martin Vonwald > 2012/8/2 Serge Wroclawski : > > I took this photo of a building across the street. > > > > How do you propose I tag it? > > > > http://www.emacsen.net/shark-bldg.jpg > > I would suggest shark=great_white or simply shark=yes if you are not > sure about the exact species.

Re: [Tagging] Data redundancy with "ref" tag on ways vs relations

2012-08-01 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/8/1 Peter Wendorff > Am 01.08.2012 16:01, schrieb Simone Saviolo: > > > Do you know how many editors are out there? and there are bots all kinds > of scripts with API upload support ... Feel free to fix all of them. As far > as I know not a single editor for mobile ap

Re: [Tagging] Data redundancy with "ref" tag on ways vs relations

2012-08-01 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/7/31 Apollinaris Schöll > Instead of saying "don't impose your views on others", you should >> provide an argument why the proposal is bad and ideally, propose >> alternative solution to the presented problem. This way, I can react >> with counter-argument, or admit that the original propos

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/6/26 Janko Mihelić > 2012/6/26 Simone Saviolo : > > > > Yes, actually every beach is marked with the blue flag. However, it is > not > > relative to a single resort. Also, signs usually say "Varazze Bandiera > Blu > > d'Europa" wi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/6/26 Janko Mihelić > 2012/6/26 Simone Saviolo > >> However, as far as I know, the Blue Flag is awarded on a Commune basis, >> so I don't think it would be ok to tag a marina or a beach resort. For >> example, in Italy, Varazze is traditionally a Blue Flag

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/6/26 Michael Krämer > Hello, > > > 2012/6/26 Janko Mihelić > >> I suggest a "fee_blue_flag=yes" tag which should be used in combination >> with "leisure=beach_resort" or "leisure=marina". This could be useful for >> easy searching of well equipped, maintained and clean beaches and marinas >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/6/26 Janko Mihelić > The Blue Flag is a voluntary eco-label awarded to 3849 beaches and marinas > in 46 countries across Europe, South Africa, Morocco, Tunisia, New Zealand, > Brazil, Canada and the Caribbean. > > More about it here: http://www.blueflag.org > > I suggest a "fee_blue_flag=yes

Re: [Tagging] Mapping larger Mini-roundabouts

2012-06-06 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/6/6 Georg Feddern > > For highway=pedestrian, at platforms and many other things we allow to >> add area=yes to a feature to turn a circular way (ring) to a circular area >> (filled area, polygon). >> If - and that's in fact more or less the result of the discussions we had >> in the last d

Re: [Tagging] Alternative names in local language

2012-05-22 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/5/22 Volker Schmidt > Ho guardato come lo fanno a Bolzano-Bozen. > > Un esempio > > name = Via > Argentieri - Silbergasse name:de = Silbergasse name:it = Via Argentieri > Da notare che i nomi italiani in Alto Adige spesso non sono tr

[Tagging] Alternative names in local language

2012-05-22 Thread Simone Saviolo
Hi everyone. Recently, I've been in Nice. Nice, as many of you may know, has been for centuries under the control of Savoy, whose official language was Italian; then it was ceded to France, that changed all the toponyms to their French equivalent. Nonetheless, the whole area also clinged to its lo

Re: [Tagging] Turn Restriction usage

2012-04-11 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/4/11 Ross Scanlon : >>> No.  The router should know not to do this. Likewise as below the router >>> should not make u turns at traffic lights. >> >> >> Based on what? How does the router know that the two ways are two >> carriageways of a single road? Couldn't they be a straight road, that >>

Re: [Tagging] Turn Restriction usage

2012-04-11 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/4/11 Ross Scanlon : >> In one case there is a road where a two way section comes to a divider >> and becomes two one way sections for a while. The suggested route came >> along one of the one way sections, then turned about 340 degrees to go >> down the other side of the road. It may be legal

Re: [Tagging] Extension of the "payment:*" keys

2012-04-11 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/4/11 : > You also need: > > payment:debit_cards for shops such as aldi and lidl. Would you mind to clarify that? Debit cards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debit_card) are accepted in most shops, not only Lidl. I'm not sure I understood what you meant. Thanks, Simone __

Re: [Tagging] Mapping guidelines

2012-01-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
Allow me to remind another advantage of a detailed landuse mapping. I've mapped cultivated land lot by lot around Vercelli. Not only this allows to detail the crop types (rather than saying that between Chivasso and Pavia it's "mostly" rice), but it also makes it possible to make precise and punctu

Re: [Tagging] Mapping guidelines

2012-01-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars II : > On 1/17/2012 11:18 AM, Anthony wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Nathan Edgars II >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 1/17/2012 10:32 AM, Anthony wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Nathan Edgars II  wrote: > > A residential street is u

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Mapping guidelines

2012-01-17 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/1/17 Jo : > For what it's worth. When I start rendering/printing maps based on OSM, I > think it's extremely ugly if the landuse is not 'connected' to the roads, > i.e. that the landuse uses separate parallel ways with a small space in > between for its definition. > I also prefer to create la

Re: [Tagging] psv (was Re: access=no (was Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)))

2012-01-17 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/1/17 Paul Johnson : > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:34:48AM -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote: >> On 1/17/2012 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >psv=yes (or bus=yes) >> >> This has been bugging me for a while - why do we group buses and >> taxis? Is this a common grouping in the UK? > > Are the

Re: [Tagging] psv (was Re: access=no (was Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)))

2012-01-17 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars II : > On 1/17/2012 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >> psv=yes (or bus=yes) > > > This has been bugging me for a while - why do we group buses and taxis? Is > this a common grouping in the UK? I don't know about other places, but at least in Italy it's common that pu

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Mapping guidelines

2012-01-17 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars II : > On 1/17/2012 8:10 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote: >> >> I find it useless to map such wide areas as landuses. There's no point >> in tagging a whole village's area as landuse=residential, and there's >> no point in making a sixt

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Mapping guidelines

2012-01-17 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars II : > On 1/17/2012 6:28 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >> 2012/1/17 Maarten Deen: >>> >>> On 2012-01-16 23:27, Robin Paulson wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=-36.878407&lon=174.741523&zoom=19 the landuse polygon has an orange highlight on

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-13 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/1/13 Michael Krämer : > In writing this reply I thought about examples for permissive here in > Germany. Thinking about that I guess it's kind of the default here so > we hardly differentiate from "access=yes". Basically it would be any > private way or road where access is not explicitly rest

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-13 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/1/13 Ben Johnson : > Okay that explains it very well. I have a friend with a farm who explained a > little to me and the obligation makes perfect sense. But would you tag such > ways as "private" or just leave them as default access?  Farms aside, I > struggle to think of examples of permissiv

Re: [Tagging] Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking)

2012-01-11 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/1/11 Ben Johnson : > For a public access pool (eg run by a local government authority, or even a > private operator who's main business is the swimming pool) usually charge an > entry fee and have opening hours, so i'd use [access=permissive] - likewise > for tennis clubs with public access

Re: [Tagging] Amenity parking

2012-01-11 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/1/11 Martin Koppenhoefer : > 2012/1/11 Erik Johansson : >> I will gladly change my amenity=parking to what ever you decide. Does >> access=private work? The parking lots aren't private it's just that >> you can't park there. > > > access=private doesn't say that something is private, it means

Re: [Tagging] Wide steps

2011-10-08 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/10/7 David Earl > On 07/10/2011 18:13, Peter Wendorff wrote: > >> I'm not sure, but perhaps the area:highway-proposal [1] is useful here. >> > > There are already numerous highway areas for things like market places and > piazzas, but it's done as highway=x;area=yes, not with its own key. Th

Re: [Tagging] Wide steps

2011-10-07 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/10/7 David Earl > Any suggestions as to how to represent some steps... > > These steps aren't that unusual I guess, but they aren't a staircase. They > form the edges of a piazza-like platform, running most of the way around it. > There are only 4 steps, but they are several of them, up to a

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