2012/1/13 Ben Johnson <[email protected]>: > Okay that explains it very well. I have a friend with a farm who explained a > little to me and the obligation makes perfect sense. But would you tag such > ways as "private" or just leave them as default access? Farms aside, I > struggle to think of examples of permissive ways. The only thing I can think > of is something like a pedestrian shortcut across a golf course, or a > pedestrian way through an arcade or shopping centre.
It's actually a quite common case at least here in Italy. Up to a few decades ago, it was common, especially in smaller towns, for houses to be built around courts that were only connected to the public road through a private passage. Let's see if my awesome ASCII art can make it clearer: =========================== AAAAAA BBBBBC D C D court C D C D EEEEEFFFFF public road =========================== Every letter indicates a separate ownership. The complex would be surrounded by other properties (not roads) on three sides, and the only way for B to reach his house would be to go through the opening on the bottom side (often with E's or D's house covering it and making it a tunnel). So all of A, B, C, D, and F have a right to pass on the (privately owned by E) opening. On the semantics of access=permissive. I used to be confused too (not that I'm not anymore; it's just that now I accept the definition). "Permissive" sounds like you need a permit to go there, and in that sense I found it perfectly fitting for the Italian ZTLs (=limited traffic zone). Actually, it's more an equivalent of "tolerated"; but I wonder how many newcomers have used it incorrectly, because it is very counterintuitive at least for non-native English speakers. But, this is what we have; should we change? And if yes, how? Ciao, Simone _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
