On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:42:28 +
j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
> I don't know what the standard terms are in other English-speaking
> countries.
footpath is another.
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On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:11:52 +0100
Peter Gervai wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 13:52, Steve Bennett
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:00 PM, grin wrote:
> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/illegal
>
> > 1) "illegal" is not really a category of things. It's an attribu
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:47:04 +
Richard Mann wrote:
> If there's an appropriate majority after 2 weeks, I'll move it to
> "approved". Otherwise we'll just carry on waiting for a better idea
> (it might be a long wait).
Appropriate majority on the wiki of how many votes?
With the tagging number
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:51:22 -0800 (PST)
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Markus Lindholm wrote:
> > If this tag designation is about formal status in the UK
>
> It isn't. It's about formal status, full stop. You could just as
> easily use it to record that a European waterway is UNECE Class Vb.
>
> R
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:04:23 -0800
Alan Mintz wrote:
> >The standard for driveways is in fact highway=service
> >service=driveway access=private.
>
> I don't feel the need to tag access=* on a driveway. It seems that,
> wherever I draw a driveway, it's access is the same as the property
> to
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:04:23 -0800
Alan Mintz wrote:
> I tag it highway=service + access=private (usually
> with evidence from a posted sign at the intersection with the public
> road),
I'd favour access=permissive rather than private.
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On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:52:39 -0500
Josh Doe wrote:
> How do we differentiate between driveways and pipestems? Pipestems are
> common in planned residential developments (at least in the US), where
> a number of houses are located off a pipestem, each with their own
> driveways.
A right-of-way in
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:24:17 -0600
Paul Johnson wrote:
> Why not map the airports in greater detail?
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.15526&lon=-97.47207&zoom=16&layers=M
> is an example of a municipal airport more completely mapped.
>
Of course that would be wonderful but there was an im
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:46:38 +0100
Simone Saviolo wrote:
> I mean, if the relation says "name=Foo" and the way says "name=Bar",
> what should a consumer do?
We are using relations to map long highways, which in Australia
customarily have names, which are well known. The route numbers are
less we
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:06:57 +0200
Nic Roets wrote:
> Fortunately there aren't too many reversible lanes in most cities.
Used a lot in Sydney to manage rush hour traffic
I haven't lived there for > 30 years so I don't know the current extent
of the practice, but the Harbour Bridge which was 8 la
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:33:59 -0500
Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> The latter may be track that looks fine but isn't
> connected to the rest of the system and is thus out of service.
Connection to the rest of the system isn't a good means of decision
A famous line from Normanton to Croydon connects t
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:13:53 +1100
David Murn wrote:
> One easy way to split airports is into those with RPT services and
> those with only GA services. Most people not involved in aviation
> will only care about RPT airports. AFAIK, the use of RPT/GA is
> fairly universal with a clearly define
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:47:31 +
j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
> True. My understanding is that most Hindus don't eat meat, but they
> do consume milk and other dairy products.
We have had Hindu believers work with us for years
one strict who does not eat when it looks like egg eg quiche
but does
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:54:30 -0800
Daniel Sabo wrote:
> My inclination on the mine facilities would be: The actual pit &
> surroundings are landuse=quarry, the proccessing facilities are
> landuse=industrial + individual buildings. Do the buildings have
> names beyond their purpose? If not just na
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 08:31:57 -0500
Richard Weait wrote:
> We've not used any indication that an appointment is required for tags
> like amenity=doctors. Can we just leave that be as it seems to have
> been presumed opening_hours:by_appointment=yes
On exactly this point, we have opening hours. Du
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:04:36 +0100
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2011/2/5 Elizabeth Dodd :
> > I'm tracing a big open cast mine which has
> >
> > pit; tailings dump; ore dump; processing plant to concentrate
> > ore; water supply; container loading facility for c
I'm tracing a big open cast mine which has
pit; tailings dump; ore dump; processing plant to concentrate
ore; water supply; container loading facility for concentrate (goes in
smallish containers by road to a rail siding)
I've got a major shortage of tags and don't have anyone nearby to ask
about
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:39:22 +0100
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> think about the Eiffel tower in Paris. It is (IMHO) clearly a
> monument, but it was originally built as a temporal structure for the
> world fair. I won't be a monument according to the definition given
> above.
I see people classif
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:58:44 +0100
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> > Definitely historic=obelisk, I think. It doesn't really matter if
> > it's *old*, it's still *historical*.
>
>
> not all of them. A Las Vegas Obelisk is hardly to be called
> "historical".
historical=fake
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:07:43 +0100
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> IMHO the definition could be: "A station is a public transport
> facility where vehicles regularly stop to load or unload passengers,
> which is bigger than a pair of bus stops or tram stops." (even if an
> aerialway-station might be
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:22:41 +0300
Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> After a lot of discussions, majority of Russian mappers decided to
> ignore the tracktype/trackgrade tags for now. The road condition is
> very dependant on weather and ones chances to drive it strongly
> depend on vehicle that is going to
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:00:25 +0100
Vincent Pottier wrote:
> > The page suggests to use abbreviations as values, which is not
> > according to our general tagging rules (and IMHO pointless, why not
> > use the full word and get a more understandable mapping?). But there
> > are some useful ideas f
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:39:18 +1000
John Smith wrote:
> > I wrote this before I realized there were other replies on this
> > topic. Based on them, it seems the closest fit is office=towing,
> > since that's what such a place is primarily used for - accounting,
> > answering the phone, etc.
>
>
On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 15:48:32 +0100 (CET)
Johan Jönsson wrote:
> How about one tag for all of these places:
>
> leisure=bath
>
> With a bathing person as a symbol:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1_9_2_24.svg
To "bathe" and to "have a bath" are to close in English, and it has
caugh
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:18:12 +1100
Steve Bennett wrote:
> How is one supposed to tag
> an irrigation channel?
as I live in an irrigation area, with thousands of channels and drains,
I put it in the 'too hard' basket and have mapped the main canals only
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:02:35 +1000
John Smith wrote:
> Apart from research facilities using baby stem cells, what products
> are made from babies? :)
after a suitable time lapse, more babies
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:27:03 +1000
John Smith wrote:
> > An agricultural school may have fields, orchards, cattle yards &
> > barns etc in the school grounds. Should this landuse be a school or
> > a farm, or both? I'd be tempted to say just education myself, but
> > I could see it going both way
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:28:06 +0100
yvecai wrote:
> Let's take it on the opposite, we have devices to control water, sort
> of 'dams'.
> * Water can go above, under, through, or between gates
> * Can be fixed, moving, removable
> * Can be nodes, ways, or polygons
>
> I'm no expert in english, but
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:23:34 +
"Dave F." wrote:
> > Balranald Weir out of the water
> > http://billiau.net/zoph/photo.php?photo_id=17253
>
> Although it's hard to decipher what's happening in the second
> photo' , I would describe the movable parts as sluice gates not weirs.
When the floo
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:33:18 -0800
"Paul Norman" wrote:
> All the sluice gates I've seen are on the scale of 1m in opening
> size. A quick google image search also seems to only turn up small
> gates. I suppose there could be some large gates out there, so the
> proposal might need to include ways
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:00:08 +
"Dave F." wrote:
> A weir is an immovable barrier to retain water level:
> http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01789/Andy-Brown-bath_1789275i.jpg
Even that isn't completely correct
Weirs on the Murray and Murrumbidgee can be removed during flo
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:37:10 +1000
John Smith wrote:
> On 3 January 2011 20:04, Ulf Lamping
> wrote:
> > What's the difference to waterway=weir?
>
> A lot of weirs I've seen don't have any kind of gates, they just
> semi-dam a river to provide a water supply for nearby towns, the water
> freely
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:04:27 +0100
Ulf Lamping wrote:
> Am 03.01.2011 02:59, schrieb Paul Norman:
> > I've set up a proposal for sluice_gates, which are typically found
> > on small waterways in agricultural areas at
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sluice_gate
>
> What's
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 10:36:54 -0500
Greg Troxel wrote:
> If part of the goal is advocacy for bike safety, then I think it makes
> sense to find a cycling organization, like http://www.bikeleague.org/
> and to find out what their standards are for cycle lane safety, and
> then to have a scheme to r
A recent import has highlighted the lack of suitable subtypes of
airport in the tagging schema.
There are some pages of lapsed concepts on the wiki of different
airport subtypes
A scan through the wikipedia gives me
international airport
domestic airport
regional airport
airstrip or airfield
Ca
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:11:18 +0100
Ulf Lamping wrote:
> It is accepting that semantically different things can reside under
> the same key and that this doesn't cause any problems - except for
> people like you that seem to think that a systematic approach is a
> value in itself.
There are good
On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:52:07 +1000
John Smith wrote:
> I've already been tagging beaches and other areas as surface=sand, how
> does using landcover make this any better?
Because, if you'd ever been to PommieLand (UK for the rest of youse)
you would know that beaches aren't all sand.
Some very f
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:38:07 +
Craig Wallace wrote:
> On 11/11/2010 16:03, John Smith wrote:
> > Erm shouldn't the data be fixed to match the documentation, rather
> > than changing the documentation in this instance?
> >
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Map_Featur
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:33:39 +0100
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> > lists of things in towns
>
>
> don't understand this. Do you propose a new key "town"?
absolutely not
but a useful list of what someone might find in a town
public buildings
toilets
parks
bbq
playground
residential areas
school
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 16:13:52 -0500
Anthony wrote:
> Is is really obvious to everyone but me which of (archaeological_site,
> art_gallery, artwork, bar, bookstore, cafe, cinema, dance, garden,
> library, memorial, monument, museum, park, pub, sports_centre,
> stadium, theatre, theme_park, and zoo)
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:18:33 +
Tom Chance wrote:
> > don't know. It seems that the british art world is not very active
> > on wikipedia then, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_gallery
> > redirects to art_museum ;-)
> >
>
> Ah, Wikipedia, that well known internationally agreed source of
> d
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 14:43:28 -0500
Anthony wrote:
> > It is true that they are at least partly a subgroup of amenity,
> > which is by general judgement quite overcrowded at the moment.
>
> Overcrowded? Less than 0.1% of possible
> values are taken.
How about containing
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:22:50 +0100
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> As you can see from my voting comment, I have other objections as
> well: gallery has a lot of different meanings, in architecture alone
> there is 4 and more, in mining, etc.
press gallery
peanut gallery
and a use in the theatre whe
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 13:31:31 -0400
Eric Brelsford wrote:
> For all of these spaces, the classes are short-term and informal.
> Part of me wants to tag them as informal training spaces (to avoid
> overloading amenity=school), but I'm not too keen on bloating
> amenity=*, either, by adding something
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:08:26 +0200
Matthias Meißer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> after a long time we think we finished our proposal concerning
> healthcare facilities and close the RFC phase.
>
> So please vote now for this new proposed feature at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hea
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:32:14 +0200
Peter Wendorff wrote:
> I don't see any situation, where a stop sign is used as a stop sign
> (and not for decoration) without an intersection near to it.
At a railway level crossing.
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:30:40 +0200
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> I inform you that I am using informal=yes for ways that are not
> constructed and not maintained or signposted but are only there for
> the fact that someone uses them.
sounds quite reasonable
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 18:31:40 +0200
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> I am speaking of narrow (in
> all cases below 1 metre, I'd say less then 0.5 m actually, usually
> 20-30 cm). They have to be not planned, not maintained, ground
> surface: they are simply there because people (or animal) use them.
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 14:14:23 +0100
"Dave F." wrote:
> On 23/10/2010 13:36, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> > I was astonished as well:
> > "Tourism is travel for recreational, leisure or business purposes.
> > The World Tourism Organization defines tourists as people who
> > "travel to and stay in p
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 08:31:08 +0200
Peter Körner wrote:
> Am 15.10.2010 08:21, schrieb Stephen Hope:
> > So the sign "Rue Bouganville St" would be name:en=Bouganville
> > Street, name:fr=Rue Bouganville, but what would you put in name=?
>
> Exactly what's on the sign: "Rue Bouganville St"
>
> Pe
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:43:36 +0200
Peter Körner wrote:
> Am 13.10.2010 09:31, schrieb Matthias Meißer:
> > For this proposal IMHO the users who removed the proposal should be
> > notified and the author should be allowed to add his new feature to
> > the map features page. He fullfilled all requi
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:06:44 +0200
Peter Körner wrote:
> I can follow this argumentation but it makes it hard to have two sets
> of rules to follow when creating tag-pages in the wiki.
There are few rules regarding the wiki.
I have not voted (because voting on the wiki is ridiculous) but whether
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:51:27 +1000
John Smith wrote:
> > So, "regular" roundabouts (i.e., those that are common, with
> > priority to the left) are tagged junction=roundabout, and
> > non-standard right-hand-priority ones are circular ways without the
> > roundabout tag.
>
> Wouldn't you just
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 02:10:20 +0200
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> really? You would tag a place where heroine-addicts go to consume
> their drugs "healthcare"?
>
> > social_facility:for=drug_addicted
Caffeine addicts have amenity=cafe
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:16:14 +0200
Peter Wendorff wrote:
> A "Druckerei"/print office is more concentrated on more or less mass
> production of print articles like newspapers, books etc.
>
> I would like to add this to craft, but I don't know a good english
> value for that.
Printery
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 07:35:11 +1000
John Smith wrote:
> What about water filled plastic barriers?
>
> http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/resourcesint/product-detailzqMJlfFDaQGv/China-Water-Filled-Plastic-Barrier.html
>
> They may not be permanent, but some stay in place for long periods of
>
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:40:16 +0200
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> >> this might be a cultural difference, but IMHO craft is the mere
> >> opposite of industrial
> >
> > It's somewhere between hobby and industrial...
>
> It is not industrial, because it operates at a much smaller scale and
> th
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:52:29 +0200
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2010/9/15 Elizabeth Dodd :
>
> > I would have put 'craft' under industrial, and then used 'trade' but
> > craft is too far processed to consider a complete alternative.
>
>
> this mi
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:59:49 +0200
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> If people would ask here before simply sneaking in tags, there would
> probably be less mess in the wiki and our tagging structure.
Certainly.
I haven't tagged highway=give_way but I have definitely put in new shop
categories withou
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:49:54 +0200
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> > No, that's exactly the same as 'oneway=no' on two-ways roads. When
> > the tag is not present, we assume that the road is two ways. That's
> > it. If it's wrong, then fix it by adding the oneway tag.
> > It is the same for waterway
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 17:45:04 -0400
Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Pierre-Alain Dorange
> wrote:
> > ... Perhaps have you a proposition. But for my part, it seems
> > "natural" to use the natural flow of the way has the natural flow
> > of the river.
>
> It may be nat
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:19:00 +
"John F. Eldredge" wrote:
> I agree with Pierre-Alain. Whether or not a particular tree is worth
> noting is a subjective decision, and can be based upon its
> appearance, its location, what notable events may have occurred near
> it, etc. Yes, being the only
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