Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

2023-01-12 Thread François Lacombe
Le jeu. 12 janv. 2023 à 23:34, François Lacombe a écrit : > It is consistent with UN classification > https://unstats.un.org/unsd/publication/seriesm/seriesm_4rev4e.pdf > See section C, class 3600 which is equivalent to utility=water > Typo. Obviously you should read section E, class 3600. My ey

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

2023-01-12 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Volker, Le jeu. 12 janv. 2023 à 21:27, Volker Schmidt a écrit : > Drinking water and sewage are really very different stuff, and at present > already mapped differently. And I guess there are very few plants that > handle both (water recycling in the International Space Station springs to > m

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

2023-01-12 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 at 02:44, Illia Marchenko wrote: > > Maybe *storage_tank=open *or similar. > I think this one may be the simplest solution. Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

2023-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12 Jan 2023, at 19:44, François Lacombe wrote: > > man_made=water_works isn't the only possible value, there is > man_made=pumping_station, man_made=covered_reservoir... > utility=water is way simpler and cover them all. If I got it right, utility=water is for all kin

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

2023-01-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
Hi François, Il giorno gio 12 gen 2023 alle ore 19:44 François Lacombe < fl.infosrese...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Hi Volker, > > Le jeu. 12 janv. 2023 à 12:02, Volker Schmidt a > écrit : > >> The present vs future tagging table is flawed. >> The landuse column shows values that are rarely used.

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

2023-01-12 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Volker, Le jeu. 12 janv. 2023 à 12:02, Volker Schmidt a écrit : > The present vs future tagging table is flawed. > The landuse column shows values that are rarely used. Industrial=water > (500 uses) in practice is tagged as man_made=water_works (30k+ uses). > "sewerage" land use exists and is

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

2023-01-12 Thread Marc_marc
Le 12.01.23 à 17:02, António Madeira a écrit : If, for example, we state that it has a roof=no, you're defining a specific kind of covering, when it has none and you have no way to know if that would be a roof, a tarp, a shed, etc. roof=* is indeed maybe too specific. but closed or not tank an

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

2023-01-12 Thread Illia Marchenko
António Madeira : > The main issue is not closed water tanks. That can be a default in OSM. > The issue here is how to inform that a storage_tank is open. > Mind you that there is an infinitude of storage tanks types, but for > firefighting, those are almost exclusively made in concrete and are op

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

2023-01-12 Thread António Madeira
The main issue is not closed water tanks. That can be a default in OSM. The issue here is how to inform that a storage_tank is open. Mind you that there is an infinitude of storage tanks types, but for firefighting, those are almost exclusively made in concrete and are open for the reasons I sta

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

2023-01-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
The present vs future tagging table is flawed. The landuse column shows values that are rarely used. Industrial=water (500 uses) in practice is tagged as man_made=water_works (30k+ uses). "sewerage" land use exists and is in practice tagged as man_made=wastewater_plant (75k uses). Generally speaki

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

2023-01-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
I would say that storage tanks, as default, are closed. So a man_made=storage_tank in OSM is closed. Secondly if a tank is closed (at the top), this is called a roof. There are fixed roofs and floating roofs. See as an example this manufacturer's web site: https://www.wermac.org/equipment/storage_t

[Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

2023-01-12 Thread François Lacombe
Dear all, The vote is now open on the Utility facilities proposal https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Utility_facilities The rationale gives many details about what it’s all about: providing consistent tagging across several features to describe in which essential infrastructure

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

2023-01-12 Thread Warin
On 12/1/23 08:28, António Madeira wrote: Open tanks are common in wild fires territories, like in Portugal, and I'm probably in Spain and Greece. Not in Australia. They're used by helicopters and firefighters, who depend on them in heavy mountainous regions, where it's impossible or very diffi