Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

I think the old building at that location used to be split in 2 (thus the 2 housenumbers). So Kasteelstraat 12 does not exist anymore. I only just now realized I mapped this wrong (was one of my first things I mapped a couple years ago). By your photo, it looks like you could even put a building

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 08:13, Clifford Snow wrote: > osmcha.org picks up the review request. Their interface makes it easy to > view and post a comment back to the user. > Thanks! Not exactly a very user-friendly system though, especially if you're only trying to review requested changes? & wi

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

Hi "Jarek Piórkowski" skrev: (23 augusti 2020 00:41:40 CEST) >On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:12, Clifford Snow >wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: >>> Reading through it though, I noticed though that he used iD, & >ticked the box "I would like someone to review my e

Re: [Tagging] bridge:name and tunnel:name

sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 23:22, Arne Johannessen wrote: > > That's not what I'm saying at all. In fact, I'm only applying *exactly* > what's currently documented on the wiki's name=* page, which considers > pragmatics instead of semantics. > > In other words, instead of focus

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - kerb=regular

sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 13:06, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Would that be acceptable? words are better IMHO, easier to remember and faster to type... Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 at 05:55, Thibault Molleman wrote: > This is a simple example: https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEQiB4X6BA3doK7T7 > one building, one unit/flat on each floor. > mailbox at the front for all 3 units. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/675768351 > > currently mapped as: > addr:house

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:12, Clifford Snow wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: >> Reading through it though, I noticed though that he used iD, & ticked the >> box "I would like someone to review my edits", which apparently didn't >> happen at the time? >> >> Q

Re: [Tagging] Network-tag needs extension

sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 11:05, Michael Schmidt via Tagging > wrote: > > But I prefer the short version and am tagging it.. the general rule is “no abbreviations” and shortenings will make collisions much more probable... Cheers Martin _

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

osmcha.org picks up the review request. Their interface makes it easy to view and post a comment back to the user. On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:53, Cj Malone < > me-osm-tagg...@keepawayfromfire.co.uk> wrote: > >> 1 - It was introduce

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:53, Cj Malone < me-osm-tagg...@keepawayfromfire.co.uk> wrote: > 1 - It was introduced by a novice mapper, presumably as a typeo. > Not picking on Nathan, as we've all had the occasional ooops! Reading through it though, I noticed though that he used iD, & ticked the box

Re: [Tagging] bridge:name and tunnel:name

Martin Koppenhoefer wrote on 15 August: > On 15. Aug 2020, at 17:33, Arne Johannessen wrote: >> >> Therefore, the tunnel's name is the primary name for that particular way, >> and thus belongs into the name=* tag. >> >> The full name tagging for a road tunnel should usually look like this: >>

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

This is a simple example: https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEQiB4X6BA3doK7T7 one building, one unit/flat on each floor. mailbox at the front for all 3 units. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/675768351 currently mapped as: addr:housenumber=1A;2A;3A addr:street=Kasteelstraat On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 19:13

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-transit] [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

Everyone knows who you're talking about at this point, and nobody cares. Use the remaining day or so of your temporary ban to work on some hobbies outside of OpenStreetMap. And be careful about who you say isn't local. I'm moving to Northern Indiana next week and I'll certainly get the chance to s

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

>it was one person in CA adding 400 unverified tags to rail service in chicago. >  >one just 818 m, away from my home. >  >>Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:32 PM -05:00 from Martin Koppenhoefer < >>dieterdre...@gmail.com >: >> >>sent from a phone >>  >>> On 22. Aug 2020, at 10:15, pangoSE < pang...@

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 13:18, Alan Mackie wrote: > > There seems to be some overlap with the values of the bridge key. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bridge this is because the bridge:structure key was introduced later on, before we lumped everything into “bridg

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 12:11, Jake Edmonds via Tagging > wrote: > > Doesn’t bridge:structure refer to the design of the supports? I would say bridge:structure refers to the structural system of the bridge (e.g. arch, beam, pylon with ropes, etc.) so I agree that it is not

Re: [Tagging] ref on roundabout

That's the approach anyway for bicycle and bus route relations on roundabouts. Yes, it causes additional work, because you need to split the roundabout way, but I do not see a way to avoid that. Volker

Re: [Tagging] ref on roundabout

sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 12:18, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Adding all refs of all streets PLUS that of the roundabout would > make it even worse as you couldnt distinguish which of the refs > references the Roundabout and which of the refs is that of the streets. typically the

Re: [Tagging] ref on roundabout

sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 12:11, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > wrote: > > I would expect roundabout to be split in parts where > ref is applying and parts where it is not applying, in other words > without any special handling and tag it as usual. +1 Cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

sent from a phone > On 22. Aug 2020, at 09:25, Thibault Molleman > wrote: > > So what's the consensus on an apartment building (way) that has mailboxes for > each person who has an apartment there. > I've just been tagging those as: > addr:housenumber = A1;A2;A3;A4;A5;A6;A7;A8;A9;A10;A11 a

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

A lot of those types of apartment buildings in my area (and i assume other places in Belgium as well) don't have a "building housenumber", only the individual flat housenumbers. Making a node for every single flat just looks bad on the map. And I agree that it just makes more sense to put it on th

Re: [Tagging] ref on roundabout

Aug 22, 2020, 12:17 by f...@zz.de: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 12:09:14PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > >> I would expect roundabout to be split in parts where >> ref is applying and parts where it is not applying, in other words >> without any special handling and tag it as usual

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 11:11, Jake Edmonds via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Doesn’t bridge:structure refer to the design of the supports? A canopy > walkway could use of mix of simple-suspension, beam and others not > currently explained in the wiki (I.e some sort of attachment to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - kerb=regular

On 22/8/20 12:56 am, Supaplex wrote: I see that I have probably chosen an unfavorable solution to solve the problem described. Many seem to accept the basic problem: There is only one qualitative category for all kerbs with a height of over ~3 cm, although in reality there is a significant di

Re: [Tagging] ref on roundabout

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 12:09:14PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > I would expect roundabout to be split in parts where > ref is applying and parts where it is not applying, in other words > without any special handling and tag it as usual. But the point is that on a roundabout the "

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

Doesn’t bridge:structure refer to the design of the supports? A canopy walkway could use of mix of simple-suspension, beam and others not currently explained in the wiki (I.e some sort of attachment to trees) Sent from Jake Edmonds' iPhone > On 22 Aug 2020, at 11:36, Peter Elderson wrote: > >

Re: [Tagging] ref on roundabout

I would expect roundabout to be split in parts where ref is applying and parts where it is not applying, in other words without any special handling and tag it as usual. Aug 22, 2020, 12:06 by f...@zz.de: > > Hi, > there is a little Discussion in the German forum concerning ref > tagging on Roun

[Tagging] ref on roundabout

Hi, there is a little Discussion in the German forum concerning ref tagging on Roundabouts. After looking at the Wiki again somebody added (In April 2019) a section saying refs of the roads should continue on the ways with "junction=roundabout": "[[File:Roundabout_Ref_Consistency.png|thu

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

Aug 22, 2020, 11:43 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: > On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 17:25, Thibault Molleman <> > thibaultmolle...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> So what's the consensus on an apartment building (way) that has mailboxes >> for each person who has an apartment there. >> I've just been tagging

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

I would say that such tagging is 100% fine and I would consider it superior to addr:housenumber = A1-A11. It would be probably nicer to map individual apartments in such case with their own addr:housenumber (what may require asking people living there), but in many cases it is probably not viable.

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

Hi Mateusz Thanks for the link. I agree that forcing someone to map is a bad idea. Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging skrev: (22 augusti 2020 10:54:57 CEST) >Also, his was poorly organized Organised Editing and  this person was >forced >to map in OSM by badly designed university assigment. > >If an

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 17:25, Thibault Molleman wrote: > So what's the consensus on an apartment building (way) that has mailboxes > for each person who has an apartment there. > I've just been tagging those as: > addr:housenumber = A1;A2;A3;A4;A5;A6;A7;A8;A9;A10;A11 > Could you use https://wiki

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

I would say the feature is a kind of highway. The construction is bridge, so bridge=yes on the highway. The highway is a footway, and this kind of footway is called a canopy walkway. The footway part is kind of redundant, which is probably nice if you render all footways, but unnecessary when you

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

What about highway=footway bridge=yes layer=* bridge:structure=canopy_walkway ? Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

Should the key be bridge? I feel like canopy walkways are more like bridges than boardwalks. Sent from Jake Edmonds' iPhone > On 22 Aug 2020, at 11:08, Alan Mackie wrote: > >  > > >> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020, 21:46 Martin Koppenhoefer, >> wrote: >> >> >> sent from a phone >> >> > On 21. Au

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

Thanks for sharing. I have no intention of contacting the user in question. It was just an illustrative example. I don't know why this was posted to the tagging list. I intend to keep this discussion on the talk list so please respond there to keep the discussion together. Cj Malone skrev: (

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020, 21:46 Martin Koppenhoefer, wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 21. Aug 2020, at 22:25, Andy Mabbett > wrote: > > > > "public building" and "trunk highway" are also common terms. > > > > Do we tag > > > >building=public_building > > > > or > > > >highway=trunk_hgh

Re: [Tagging] Network-tag needs extension

Ok, if that's the popular opinion, I will concur. But I prefer the short version and am tagging it.. Regards Michael___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

Also, his was poorly organized Organised Editing and  this person was forced to map in OSM by badly designed university assigment. If anything that is proof that forcing people to map in OSM is even less useful than expected. ( according to https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/08/we-tracked-down-the-p

Re: [Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

On Sat, 2020-08-22 at 09:32 +0200, pangoSE wrote: > Building upon it can lead to strange things. E.g. > https://www.nyteknik.se/popularteknik/mystisk-jatteskrapa-dok-upp-i-flygsimulator-6999771 > (building:levels=212 was entered erroneously and committed to the > database without any kind of QA f

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] VANDALISM !

Thanks to DWG for taking this action. Aug 22, 2020, 03:35 by claysmal...@gmail.com: > For those who aren't following, the DWG recently decided on a two-day ban for > the person who posted this, for the exact behavior they're exhibiting right > now: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/38

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

"It a playground with half-ass quality more than an authoritative and verified source of information (like e.g. Wikipedia)" I am not sure whatever you claim that Wikipedia is "playground with half-ass quality" or "authoritative and verified source of information". Though any of this claims would

[Tagging] Call for verification (Was: Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !)

Hi 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk skrev: (22 augusti 2020 03:06:37 CEST) >  >Also there is no wiki on unverified edits. >  In OSM we don't yet have an established system for verification or accurate machine readable references for the data to my knowledge. This means the whole database is basicall

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

So what's the consensus on an apartment building (way) that has mailboxes for each person who has an apartment there. I've just been tagging those as: addr:housenumber = A1;A2;A3;A4;A5;A6;A7;A8;A9;A10;A11 (Semicolon, because that's what the wiki recommends for multiple values iirc) On Thu, Aug 20