Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

> Am 21.05.2015 um 23:53 schrieb pmailkeey . : > > Tag the building with street address and add an ent/exit node to mark the > entrance. have a look at these housenumbers, they're 5 and 7 for this side of the building (one big hotel), but the main address is from the main street (front of

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

Note that just because you can collect some data, does not make it a good idea to put in OSM. Maintenance is harder than collection: and who's going to go back three years after the HOT event and clean up? - Keep in mind this tagging mailing list is a tiny and non-representative slice

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

On 5/22/2015 1:43 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Rafael Avila Coya mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, Bryce: Yes. Everything is temporary. So whatever we do in OSM for temporary objects has to be applied to ALL objects. We don't store the number of

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 21/05/2015 7:30 PM, André Pirard wrote: An amenity is not an object, it's an attribute of an object like a building. Objects? (note pun) amenity=bbq amenity=atm amenity=fountain amenity=bench amenity=clock amenity=photo_booth amenity=post_box etc... ___

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Rafael Avila Coya wrote: > Hi, Bryce: > Yes. Everything is temporary. So whatever we do in OSM for temporary > objects has to be applied to ALL objects. > We don't store the number of chickens found in each compound. We do store railways, the traces of which are

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

Hi, Bryce: Everything is temporary: the highway surfaces, oneway, classification... Railways go disused and new ones are constructed every day. Thousands of shops close everyday, to reopen with a new name and type (and contact:*...) Farmlands go greenfields, then construction, then residential

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Blake Girardot wrote: > > Damage info has been tagged in OSM for a long time. > OSM already tags a lot of temporary and transient stuff. > > We are aware of the nature of the tags and want to be able to review, > maintain the remove the tags, it is one of the ma

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 21 May 2015 at 18:40, Chris Fleming wrote: > Fundamentally, there isn't a single answer to this problem. The answer we > have developed in Edinburgh is to place a node on the building where the > entrance is, this is largely because a single building will Costa n many > door as well as shops e

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 21 May 2015 at 15:28, Ross wrote: > > > On 21/05/15 20:16, pmailkeey . wrote: > > > > On 21 May 2015 at 02:08, Ross wrote: > >> >> >> On 21/05/15 09:51, pmailkeey . wrote: >> >> >> >> On 20 May 2015 at 14:10, André Pirard wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We know that addr:housenumber >>>

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

I don't know Andreas, do we need to say what kind of event it is? I would lean toward damage:type=hurricane|earthquake|etc or event:type=hurricane|earthquake|etc But this actually brings up an issue that we ran into in Nepal. How do identify the event (and maybe event type) independent of any

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 21 May 2015 at 14:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > Am 21.05.2015 um 01:51 schrieb pmailkeey . : > > We know that addr:housenumber >> =* can be tagged on nodes >> and >> that

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

Damage info has been tagged in OSM for a long time. OSM already tags a lot of temporary and transient stuff. We are aware of the nature of the tags and want to be able to review, maintain the remove the tags, it is one of the main goals of any tagging system we settle on like that. On 5/

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

I feel this is a good example of a database that should use OSM as a base layer. A rendering engine can match a given primary key for, say, a building outline to the given damage assessment tag. --- Damage assessment data is very transitory, compared to the lifetime of objects in OSM. __

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

As you linked to this on the HOT list a few things noticed... What about the typhoon:, earthquake: or tsunami: tags? Replaced with damage:event? What about e.g. damage:building? This could still be used even if you have building= and damage= What about the status= and impassable= keys and

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

Fundamentally, there isn't a single answer to this problem. The answer we have developed in Edinburgh is to place a node on the building where the entrance is, this is largely because a single building will Costa n many door as well as shops etc. Shops are added as nodes set back I not the building

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 21/05/15 20:16, pmailkeey . wrote: On 21 May 2015 at 02:08, Ross > wrote: On 21/05/15 09:51, pmailkeey . wrote: On 20 May 2015 at 14:10, André Pirard mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, We know that addr:housenumber

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 2015-05-21 12:16, pmailkeey . wrote : On 21 May 2015 at 02:08, Ross wrote: On 21/05/15 09:51, pmailkeey . wrote:

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

Am 21.05.2015 um 01:51 schrieb pmailkeey . : >> We know that addr:housenumber=* can be tagged on nodes and that it's very >> convenient. > > But wrong. what/where do you refer to? Is it wrong where you are? Typically inferring from your own experience to every other possible place on ear

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

If I followed it correctly, also in the Netherlands all addresses are mapped on nodes, which they lined up diagonally inside the building contours, for buildings with more than 1 address. Since they have all the data out in the open, they could import it, of course, which means they now have a com

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

There are apartment buildings where each apartment has a different house number, (and no, they are not unit or apartment numbers and yes 2 floors with different apartments). [1] Many discussions on the different OSM lists and fora have showed that in different countries 1 building can have multipl

Re: [Tagging] RFC Reception_desk Mk2

On 21 May 2015 at 10:41, Kotya Karapetyan wrote: > > > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:34 AM, pmailkeey . > wrote: > >> If they need a map to find the place, the need any reception for newbies. >> Tag the appropriate entrances with ent/ext tags - all those entrances >> suitable for newbies. >> > > >

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 2015-05-21 11:33, Marc Gemis wrote : > > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:13 AM, André Pirard > mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Info is routinely in two places, e.g. building and > associatedStreet, to cope with software or people that do not > support one of the places. > > >

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, pmailkeey . wrote: > Another major OSM bug ! Buildings should have no more data than > name/number with regard to addressing as all the rest of the address should > be available elsewhere. Easy to explain: editors ask the complete address information, including

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 21 May 2015 at 11:22, Marc Gemis wrote: > Be careful in which country you do this, never do this in Denmark e.g. [1] > How do you deal with buildings with multiple addresses ? Or does not not > exist in your part of the world (honest question) ? > > regards > > [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 2015-05-21 12:24, pmailkeey . wrote : On 21 May 2015 at 10:13, André Pirard wrote: On 2015-05-21 01:51, pmailkeey . wrote :

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

Info is routinely in two places, e.g. building and associatedStreet, to cope with software or people that do not support one of the places. But that should not happen. If you have the realtion there should not be a addr:street tag on the building. Which is why some time ago we also had a lot

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 21 May 2015 at 10:13, André Pirard wrote: > On 2015-05-21 01:51, pmailkeey . wrote : > > > Info shouldn't be duplicated or triplicated either. > > Please be clear and justify. > Info is routinely in two places, e.g. building and associatedStreet, to > cope with software or people that do no

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

Be careful in which country you do this, never do this in Denmark e.g. [1] How do you deal with buildings with multiple addresses ? Or does not not exist in your part of the world (honest question) ? regards [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses#Denmark On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:16

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 21 May 2015 at 02:08, Ross wrote: > > > On 21/05/15 09:51, pmailkeey . wrote: > > > > On 20 May 2015 at 14:10, André Pirard wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We know that addr:housenumber >> =* can be tagged on nodes >>

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

W dniu 21.05.2015 11:30, André Pirard napisał(a): An amenity is not an object, it's an attribute of an object like a building. That would be more true for building=school probably (building with the attribute of being suitable for school use) - things are very complicated under the surface.

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

In general, there is a many-to-many relationship between buildings and addresses. Within one building, amenities/enterprises may each have their own address. An address may also refer to multiple buildings. //colin On 2015-05-21 11:30, André Pirard wrote: > On 2015-05-20 19:26, Andreas Gos

Re: [Tagging] RFC Reception_desk Mk2

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:34 AM, pmailkeey . wrote: > If they need a map to find the place, the need any reception for newbies. > Tag the appropriate entrances with ent/ext tags - all those entrances > suitable for newbies. > I believe we should simply map the reality. So a reception should be

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:30 AM, André Pirard wrote: > The wiki states that the address of an area can be tagged on one of its > nodes. typically the entrance node. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/li

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:13 AM, André Pirard wrote: > Info is routinely in two places, e.g. building and associatedStreet, to > cope with software or people that do not support one of the places. > that depends, some people use associatedStreet only to associate a building with a street. They

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 2015-05-20 19:26, Andreas Goss wrote : >> That is the same number both on a node (once) and on the way/relation >> *that this node belongs to* (once)? > > Do you mean area when you say way? I think if a building has the > address then you should not have a node for just the address. If it's > a

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

On 2015-05-21 01:51, pmailkeey . wrote : > > > On 20 May 2015 at 14:10, André Pirard > wrote: > > Hi, > > We know that addr:housenumber > =* can be tagged on > nodes >