On 6/01/2011 12:25 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
How about railway=* cycleway=track?
http://www.railstotrails.org/ourWork/trailBuilding/toolbox/informationSummaries/rails-with-trails.html
Heh, didn't think about that. I wouldn't do it, because in practice
those kinds of trails tend to weave aroun
On 7 January 2011 12:26, Alan Mintz wrote:
> I can't find a tag for the base of operations of a towing service - i.e. you
> call them to tow your broken car or truck to a repair shop. The basic
> definition would be a service that tows cars and other "light" vehicles.
> Truck and other heavy vehic
On 7 January 2011 09:18, Steve Bennett wrote:
> Hmm. It could get increasingly difficult to objectively distinguish between
> all the different types of man-made water channel: canal, drain, aqueduct.
> (Incidentally, taginfo shows 40,000 uses of "waterway=artificial" - anyone
> know what that is?
Things seem to have gotten way off track, I started this thread to get
ideas/feedback on how we could replace an existing tag like
waterway=weir and instead make it a subtag along with other similar
flow control tags like dams, sluice_gates, flood_gates, lock_gates and
so on...
Any talk about a ce
On 01/04/2011 08:46 AM, Anthony wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Paul Johnson
> wrote:
>> On 01/03/2011 08:11 AM, Dave F. wrote:
>>> On 03/01/2011 03:50, Paul Johnson wrote:
On 01/01/2011 07:54 AM, Dave F. wrote:
> Is the adjacent path shared? if so, note that that would be
> On 7/01/2011 9:19 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> > What do you think about waterway=aqueduct ?
> > Around here there are quite some historical aqueducts (e.g. [1]). Most
> > are ruins, but they are still impressive. I tag them
> > waterway=aqueduct, ruin=yes Some are bridge-like (arches), but
I can't find a tag for the base of operations of a towing service - i.e.
you call them to tow your broken car or truck to a repair shop. The basic
definition would be a service that tows cars and other "light" vehicles.
Truck and other heavy vehicle towing would be a separate option. I propose:
Am 07.01.2011 00:10, schrieb Steve Bennett:
If by "do their best" you mean, the people involved work hard and in
good faith, yes. If you mean the result is optimal, then clearly not.
There are lots of bugs in mapnik.
Where are the trac tickets to improve the situation?
And just look at the ta
On 7/01/2011 9:19 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
What do you think about waterway=aqueduct ?
Around here there are quite some historical aqueducts (e.g. [1]). Most
are ruins, but they are still impressive. I tag them
waterway=aqueduct, ruin=yes
Some are bridge-like (arches), but others are solid
On 7/01/2011 7:07 AM, Ralf Kleineisel wrote:
I think that map renderers and map makers already do their best to
support as many useful (for their map!) tags as possible and most
mappers do their best to map according to the wiki definition because
they want their work to appear on the maps.
If b
On 7/01/2011 4:00 AM, Peter Wendorff wrote:
What's the benefit of that?
What beside of this - I fear, stupid - "certification" is the benefit
for a hiking map in supporting e.g. maxspeed of motorways as part of
the OSM core being the decision basis to get the certification?
You've unfortunatel
2011/1/6 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
>> On any way without a highway=*, cycleway=track is meaningless/redundant.
>
> How about railway=* cycleway=track?
> http://www.railstotrails.org/ourWork/trailBuilding/toolbox/informationSummaries/rails-with-trails
2011/1/6 Ulf Lamping
> Am 06.01.2011 23:06, schrieb Simone Saviolo:
>
>> ... but in fact the map is not reliably usable.
>>
>
> Fine, if you think OSM is working unreliably - just go on and start your
> own reliable project :-)
>
> If you set up something like an "OSM core profile" and the majori
2011/1/6 Peter Wendorff
> Hi Simone.
> I agree that some definition of "core features" would be useful.
> I think I wrote that in my last mail here, too.
>
> I simply don't see the benefit of a certificate on application side.
>
It's not an advantage "on the application side" in itself; it's mo
Am 06.01.2011 23:06, schrieb Simone Saviolo:
... but in fact the map is not reliably usable.
Fine, if you think OSM is working unreliably - just go on and start your
own reliable project :-)
If you set up something like an "OSM core profile" and the majority of
people find it useful, this m
2011/1/6 John Smith :
> On 6 January 2011 14:10, Steve Bennett wrote:
>> Or perhaps waterway=drain, if you're not fussed about the distinction
>> between stormwater and drinking water.
>
> Or subtag
>
> waterway=conduit
> conduit=storm_water|potable_water|waste_water|
What do you think about
Hi Robert.
Of course that's something just not included yet, but I think it should
be kept in mind while polishing your idea.
I thought about the problem of sidewalks more than a few hours, so it's
not a fast reaction to your mail only.
Complexity IS an argument to keep in mind when elabora
Hi Simone.
I agree that some definition of "core features" would be useful.
I think I wrote that in my last mail here, too.
I simply don't see the benefit of a certificate on application side.
Let's consider two alternatives.
Either the certification requires support for the most 5 important
at
2011/1/6 Ralf Kleineisel
> Remember, the goal of OSM is a FREE map, not one with a lot of rules and
> restrictions. There are enough restricted maps out there.
>
Let me express another comment on this. OSM's map is FREE in the sense that
it is FREELY USABLE and DISTRIBUTABLE. You can do what you
On 7 January 2011 07:03, Simone Saviolo wrote:
> Sure, but it's a matter of defining a line between "chaos" and "coordinated
> anarchy". It seems that many OSMers would not want to go any further than an
> anarchy, this may be ok, but for the data to be somehow useful (and not only
> a bunch of se
2011/1/6 Ralf Kleineisel
> On 01/06/2011 06:00 PM, Peter Wendorff wrote:
>
> > What beside of this - I fear, stupid - "certification" is the benefit
> > for a hiking map in supporting e.g. maxspeed of motorways as part of the
> > OSM core being the decision basis to get the certification?
> >
> >
To me, this sounds like a great thing to display *over* OSM data, but not
*in* it. It seems similar to geocaches, which have their own infrastructure
for people discovering and reporting about them. ie
http://www.geocaching.com/map/beta/
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Peter wrote:
> Use linux
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Peter wrote:
> Ride the City
> http://www.ridethecity.com/
> Maybe there is some explanation there.
You're right - I should have looked in the history.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/39275890/history
Not that there's any explanation there - I'm asking Brian
Ride the City
http://www.ridethecity.com/
Maybe there is some explanation there.
2011/1/6 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote:
>> RTC is the abbriviation of Regional Transportation Commission. So the amout
>> of money you have to pay for e.g. a bus ride.
> R
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote:
> RTC is the abbriviation of Regional Transportation Commission. So the amout
> of money you have to pay for e.g. a bus ride.
Right...
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/39275890
I think it's some sort of subjective bicycle comfort level,
Use linux, do an ls -lhA /media/drivelabel copy the file you need,
leave the rest untouched, unplug, done!
But browser vulnerabilities? Those usually get patched within the day, right?
2011/1/6 :
> Leaving USB thumb drives lying around, so that people will plug them into a
> computer to find out
On 01/06/2011 06:00 PM, Peter Wendorff wrote:
> What beside of this - I fear, stupid - "certification" is the benefit
> for a hiking map in supporting e.g. maxspeed of motorways as part of the
> OSM core being the decision basis to get the certification?
>
> To make a better example: Garmin AiO f
Leaving USB thumb drives lying around, so that people will plug them into a
computer to find out what is on the drive, is a well-known means of introducing
viruses, key loggers, and other malware into systems that are well-protected
against malware coming in from the net. Several military machi
FDTDs: Flash Drive Transmitted Diseases
On 1/6/11 2:28 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote:
No, not the latest virus. You can share your favorite virus.
-Robert-
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RTC is the abbriviation of Regional Transportation Commission. So the amout
of money you have to pay for e.g. a bus ride.
-Robert-
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Subject: [Tagging]
No, not the latest virus. You can share your favorite virus.
-Robert-
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - deaddrop
Sounds like a good way to c
@Peter: This reaction is just the that I expected. You include at the moment
not tagged features (seperated footways/sidewalks) to a discussion about
cycleway tracks. Please do not use complicity to attack new ideas.
Let go back to the base of my question:
cycleway=track
=
Who can g
Am 06.01.2011 16:44, schrieb Simone Saviolo:
2011/1/6 Steve Bennett mailto:stevag...@gmail.com>>
Putting in place a serious process for tag migration will be
difficult. I suggest that a first step will be definition of an
actual schema, with version number. For example, define an act
I can't find anything useful on the wiki about rtc_rate. What is it?
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Sounds like a good way to catch the latest computer virus.
---Original Email---
Subject :[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - deaddrop
>From :mailto:ratzil...@gmail.com
Date :Thu Jan 06 09:56:31 America/Chicago 2011
Hi all,
I've set up a proposal for deaddrop.
http://wiki.openstreetmap
I was assuming, incorrectly as it turned out, that cycleway=track was related
to highway=track, except being for bicycles instead of cars. The highway=track
tag has the implications that I gave below.
---Original Email---
Subject :Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways
>From :mailto:st
Hi all,
I've set up a proposal for deaddrop.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/deaddrop
According to http://deaddrops.com/ (project's website) :
" ‘Dead Drops’ is an anonymous, offline, peer to peer file-sharing
network in public space. USB flash drives are embedded into walls
On 7 January 2011 01:44, Simone Saviolo wrote:
> More organisation would surely help, but this is in contrast with the wiki
> principle.
For the most part things could stay as status quo, it's only
existing/well established tags, such as waterway=dam|weir that might
fit better as a subtag instead
2011/1/6 Steve Bennett
> Putting in place a serious process for tag migration will be difficult. I
> suggest that a first step will be definition of an actual schema, with
> version number. For example, define an actual list of several hundred tags,
> with semantics, that correspond to "OSM core
Le 06/01/2011 14:07, Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) a écrit :
Conventionally this has been done with role alternate. But for more
complex problems (more then two variants) this can not be represented
correctly in OSM with only one route.
Currently under developement is a proposal
http://wiki.openstre
Conventionally this has been done with role alternate. But for more
complex problems (more then two variants) this can not be represented
correctly in OSM with only one route.
Currently under developement is a proposal
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport
whic
I try to tag all my bus routes in my hometown, but I come to a problem.
Normally the bus route are straight on from the start to the destination but
for me the
problem is that the destination change for every second route. meaning that it
exist
two different routes for the same bus number.
What
Le 06/01/2011 05:07, Steve Bennett a écrit :
Putting in place a serious process for tag migration will be
difficult. I suggest that a first step will be definition of an actual
schema, with version number. For example, define an actual list of
several hundred tags, with semantics, that corre
Am 06.01.2011 01:05, schrieb Steve Bennett:
On 6/01/2011 8:56 AM, Robert Elsenaar wrote:
Solution:
highway=secundary
name=Duinweg
surface=asphalt
maxspeed=50
cycleway=track
cycleway:surface=paving_stones
cycleway:maxspeed=30
I think this has potential, and could possibly render a l
Have you seen the presentation of "Tag Central" that came out of the
last State of the Map conference? I think something like this was
covered in that, though I could be thinking of the wrong thing.
Stephen
On 6 January 2011 13:00, John Smith wrote:
> On 6 January 2011 08:47, Steve Bennett wrot
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle
What is not clear on this page ?
Pieren
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On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> One situation that this would not cope with, that I see surprisingly often
> around here, is where there is both a lane *and* a track.
cycleway=lane with a highway=cycleway alongside, or
cycleway=track (and just treat the lane as a bonus), o
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:02:35 +1000
John Smith wrote:
> Apart from research facilities using baby stem cells, what products
> are made from babies? :)
after a suitable time lapse, more babies
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