Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems (was: Versifications and verse order)

2013-07-25 Thread Костя Маслюк
Troy, integrating this in BibleTime Mini, i found that it is hard task to make parallel Bible display to work correctly (in he light of av11n support). And in my opinion it does not worth to force each frontend to implement this. I have two ideas for now: 1. provide Chapter and Entry renderer,

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems

2013-07-11 Thread Jonathon
On 07/11/2013 06:46 PM, Chris Burrell wrote: > How do you know that verse 0 maps to verse 1 in the first instance, and 2 in > the next? What if in the target versification, verse 0 is made of 1&2&3. This is why the various v11n schemes have to be clearly defined either within the Sword engine, or

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems (was: Versifications and verse order)

2013-07-11 Thread Chris Burrell
In the Psalm KJV contracting example, I'm not sure how you "choose your expansion". How do you know that verse 0 maps to verse 1 in the first instance, and 2 in the next? What if in the target versification, verse 0 is made of 1&2&3. What about the following examples: *Example 1: Inverted verses *

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems (was: Versifications and verse order)

2013-07-11 Thread Костя Маслюк
2013/7/11 Chris Burrell > I don't think an explicit superset is required. An implicit one yes. By > that I mean that if you allow a versification X to map to the known KJV > Versification with parts (say 'a' 'b', or 'firstSentence', > 'secondSentence', etc. - i.e. arbitrary parts), then it means

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems (was: Versifications and verse order)

2013-07-10 Thread Chris Burrell
sorry, this: Psalm.51.1=Psalm.51.0@repentance-prayer Psalm.51.2=Psalm.51.0@bathsheba-intro would be better as: Psalm.51.1=Psalm.51.0@musical-instruction Psalm.51.2=Psalm.51.0@bathsheba-intro Chris On 10 July 2013 22:25, Chris Burrell wrote: > I don't think an explicit superset is required.

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems (was: Versifications and verse order)

2013-07-10 Thread Chris Burrell
I don't think an explicit superset is required. An implicit one yes. By that I mean that if you allow a versification X to map to the known KJV Versification with parts (say 'a' 'b', or 'firstSentence', 'secondSentence', etc. - i.e. arbitrary parts), then it means you can go from X to Y via the KJV

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems (was: Versifications and verse order)

2013-07-10 Thread Костя Маслюк
Sorry, when i try to imagine your conception of 'superset', i found verses scattered all around the room after translation procedure. Have you any visual representation of what you would like to achieve in final, or would you make such a table by your self? Should verses content be always equivale

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems

2013-07-05 Thread Chris Burrell
The issue with me not reading Greek/Hebrew is that I can't tell how things are aligned... Chris On 5 July 2013 04:25, Jonathon wrote: > On 07/04/2013 03:24 PM, Chris Burrell wrote: > > I'm afraid, I'm not sure I follow. The screenshot looks ok, > > In the LXX, there are roughly eighty verses

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems

2013-07-04 Thread Jonathon
On 07/04/2013 03:24 PM, Chris Burrell wrote: > I'm afraid, I'm not sure I follow. The screenshot looks ok, In the LXX, there are roughly eighty verses between what is displayed as 3:23 and what is displayed as 3:24. >but then I don't read Greek or Hebrew so I don't really know. The issue is not

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems

2013-07-04 Thread DM Smith
On Jul 4, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > We have a design in place which allows for the code example I previously > mentioned: > > lxx->setKey(nasb->getKey()) What Chris might not realize in this simple statement: In SWORD a module has the notion of current key. The module and

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems

2013-07-04 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
We have a design in place which allows for the code example I previously mentioned: lxx->setKey(nasb->getKey()) The engine recognized that the versifications are different and calls a facility to do the translation. We have not finalized on this facility yet. As also mentioned, ? has sub

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems (was: Versifications and verse order)

2013-07-04 Thread Chris Burrell
I'm guess I've misunderstood as Ps.51 shows the wrong alignment between Hebrew and English for the first two verses... What are these "translation facilities currently designed in the engine"? Chris On 4 July 2013 16:24, Chris Burrell wrote: > I'm afraid, I'm not sure I follow. The screenshot

Re: [sword-devel] Parallel Display of Differing V11n Systems (was: Versifications and verse order)

2013-07-04 Thread Chris Burrell
I'm afraid, I'm not sure I follow. The screenshot looks ok, but then I don't read Greek or Hebrew so I don't really know. Are you saying Sword already has translation from 1 versification to another transparently, by " the v11n translation facilities currently designed in the engine"? From previou