stament according to the Byzantine Textform,
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x27;t remember the name)
- True Sharp Sword
with the same name is a bad thing.
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that it is allowed for HTML documents but think that it is allowed.
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100 times less than US programmers.
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attribute is no longer valid. xml:lang
> must be used instead.
Hm, I'm unsure whether xml:lang will work well with CSS because of
namespaces. BTW, as I remember, URL of namespace "xml" is defined in
"Namespaces in XML Specification".
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It for now propbably should
be implemented partially.
P.S. I now got the idea that we an abbreviate Robinson/Packard entries in
popups (browser may shorten long popups ending them by ellipsis): Gender->G
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t a value of any attribute. We
could match against value of "lang" attribute. So I think we indeed should
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On 27-Oct-2003 Victor Porton wrote:
>
> On 27-Oct-2003 Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I added a basic Strong's and Morph toggle to the passagestudy.jsp.
> I'd
>> like to actually make it valuable by adding hover popups and make
work by standard but often doesn't work in practice with
browser tooltips.
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brew grammer analysis tool?
See above.
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roblems I have this month :-( If somebody indeed much wants that I
would do this work, mail me privately, please, and I will explain how he
can help (not a hard big work).
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Robinson module has the following wrong entries (no part of speech pointed,
not clear other aspects):
$$$ADV-C
Part of Speech: Case: AccusativeContracted form
$$$ADV-I
Part of Speech: Case: AccusativeInterrogative
$$$ADV-S
Part of Speech: Case: AccusativeDegree: Superlative
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with "x-"?
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are caslled the first five books of
Original Hebrew OT or sometimes the Hebrew OT wholely. Hebrew OT wholely is
also called Tanakh.
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our image format to .png
and to .jpeg (not forgetting to turn on maximal compression levels!)
Wouldn't it make image files reasonably small?
Well, this would be only a temporary partial solution. A vector graphics
format is needed.
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XSLT).
We can style OSIS files with XXX. Then we can converting OSIS -> HTML, also
convert XXX -> CSS.
Then we can also deprecate x-i, x-b, x-u tags for presentational markup.
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oin its development (not in harm
to spending time in development of biblical soft)?
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te the person and number. This would go beyone Strongs
You've also forgot about pronoun-suffixes, articles with particles and some
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we can often specify a strong for a Hebrew word
only for one verse, for other verse an algorithm an find it.)
Also we can write a GUI to quickly select and review strongs (showing
Hebrew lexicon entries for check).
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> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Victor Porton wrote:
>
> This is part of the crux of my arguemtnt that use of OSIS in lieu of
> actual quote marks is a bad practice. Characters, including quotation
> marks, are data and should be represented as char
ks (e.g. "<<" and
">>" may be good for plain text),
For Unicode chars we would use e.g. backslash notation (like \x12F4).
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Luther's Commentary on Galatians (Luther) has the following bugs in the
luther.conf file:
1. Missing module version.
2. "Encoding=UTF-" is missing "8" in "UTF-8".
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Are you out of resources:
HTTP Status 500 -
type Exception report
message
description The server encountered an internal error () that prevented it from
fulfilling this request.
exception
org.apache.jasper.JasperException: Unable to compile class for JSP
An error occurred at line: -1 in the
ly without including support in
libSword) for the future. Then every preacher would make many new modules...
Is my notion for additional .conf file fields good in your opinions?
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text the same as upper point in the
ancient manuscripts or there are no exact correspondece between these
signs? Try to find this information and note it with yout text copies.
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> generated.
>
> Opinions?
We more need a good looking palette than exact colors which the satellite
camera registered. Consider changing the colors.
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modules-devel). Huh?
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process.
P.S. Don't mess me with the another Victor.
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> conversation in this thread. You raise a good question about the
> usefullness
> of Diatheke. Hopefully someone can answer that. My main concern, and the
Diatheke is useful even to have on a e.g. laptop.
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> Does anyone have a dropdown menu for all the bible translations already done
> for me to drop into the mock-up I am working on?
>
> something like this
>
>
> King James Version
>value="WEB">World English Translation
> all the rest
>
I
t may have
some problems with very old browsers about "" declaration. We can create
documents without XML declaration what is yet correct XML (not sure whether correct
XHTML, need to look into Standard).
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1.1 or 1.0 standard XSLT processor (e.g. xsltproc on Linux).
Studying XSLT would het some time, but it is an useful knowledge.
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.g. Hebrew aleph may be represented by both 'a'
and 'e'.
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The StrongsHebrew module is transliterated (without real Hebrew letters).
I'm going to add the letters.
Will we preserve as is in OLB without real Hebrew letters because this is an
Online church tradition? ;-)
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> currently an encyphered module which could be made available to you or made
Which module?
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t an option as the library may grow. Maybe modules should have
> their native name and its english translation, so that the frontend can
> choose? We use the short names most of the time in BibleTime anyway...
name = Module
name[ru] = íÏÄÕÌØ
...
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to search again)?! Maybe somebody again has stolen the copyright?
These should be in Sword, necessarily, in English.
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> libraries parsed to create what was sent to the front end.
>
> Am I missing something significant?
> Is all I need not in those files?
These are binaries. There are not only RawText, but also several other formats you
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for my taste works
> fine. It has modules for just about any language you care to name. It is in
> the public domain.
I'm about _simple_ databases with C API, not complex things like SQL.
I currently use freecdb (CDB is "contant database") in GTK Bible Va
gt; the code that reads/writes them.
I recently have tried several XML readers. All are slow. OSIS files for Bibles
are big. So in any case there are need to convert to an other format than just
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site. The Lingvo program itself probably has both Russian and English
UI, I'm not sure.
I contacted the author (also Russian) of the dictionaries asking among other
about permissions and about files in an other format, but no reply.
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in the text (e.g. with appended 'G' or '0', dependingly on the module).
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this will fail, then you may kus write (in C++) a convertor from Sword modules to an
other module format. Ugly (additional disk space, more hard installation), but a
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t would be
> available to everyone.
The same is possible with Python.
> If anyone is interested in talking about a Sword frontend in Squeak
> email me. We can have a private conversation or on this list if it is
> deemed sufficiently o
res. I
recommend to find the most thin and formula-less book on this topic and read
it before beginning actual programming. You also can search Internet for this.
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In Hebrew is YHWH, not "the lorrd" and you also know this. What do you mean?
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Red letter is a probelm as these disturb to see which verse is selected in GnomeSword.
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please make Robinson's tags ALWAYS being
"tooltipped" (undependingly of what is the current glossary.)
Being busy with other deals I am not going to make patch myself (at least this
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> fulfill the request, " then it gives a second error that the link failed
> to load.
Yes, it also doesn't work for me.
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> morpholgy tags in KJV2003? It's a pain when I have to go to the Perseus
> Digital Library to look up morphology for a word.
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of each). Even
> if we were given permission to distribute these, we probably would not.
Strange... Can't we claim that Larry doesn't own current versuions of BDB and Thayer
because owning misnamed stuff is unlawful?
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e already have Hebrew Bible tagged to strongs? Where to download?
Just it is very boring to search the strong corresponding to a Hebrew word using e.g.
KJV's strongs.
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> Okay, the osisCore 1.1.1 Schema, documentation, and list of Bible book
> names are now posted at http://www.bibletechnologieswg.org/osis/specs/
> along with Troy's tutorial so ignore the URLs in my last message.
Are there already ready OSIS -> (X)HTML XSLT stylesheets?
write-protected directory? (In NT, 2000 and XP these exist). Maybe unexisting
output directory.
BTW, "disk drive", not "disk driver" which means are different thing.
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> Does anyone have (or know where I can get) code to convert Greek text from
> ascii to UTF-8? My starting point is the NA26 published by CCAT. I'd like to
> convert from the obscure format used there to utf8 as used in sword.
> Suggestions?
recode.exe or iconv.exe
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Anyone of holy warriors wanting to join development?
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In Gtk-1.2 I want Greek text on a button.
Can I use an iso10646-1 font (How? Setting a UTF-8 string produces a mess.) or
need to use a Greek font?
Example?
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does it AFAIK not very well, we need to check if enough well.
Acrobat Reader or Xpdf (both free) can convert PDF->Postscript.
P.S. For these who don't know: PDF and PS are formats intended for multipage images of
book's pages and like. Many typographies use these. There are several
freeware/opensource viewers for both formats.
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> On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Lamar Owen wrote:
>
> Just an issue to think of: Is the fileformat an open standard? To me at
> least GIF is a no-go issue.
Both PostScript and PDF are standards developed by Adobe which we are free to use.
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seen the release!)
However if you like I can create this special theology list earlier.
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when clicked by an image hyperlink in HTMl/ThML/...
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experience. It is also easier to program.
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t century exceptions to that, but I'm not a paleographer,
> so could be wrong.
But I'm in doubt whether these iotas was non-subscript or absent.
About all caps my ignorant conjecture is that these only these texts which was fastly
copied not the apostle's originals. Well, was lowercase Greek letters already
"invented" in 1st century?
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changed "word"->"word
".
Rather probably I will do this work in near time as I already developed some
programming technologies which can be used for this.
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other letter for a great idea for Sword project unrelated to this
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teach us that for
> Christ's sake, they are accepted. Even when imperfect (and they always are)
> in themselves.
I don't know this teaching. I believe in ZERO errors of any kinds in Bible.
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time to stop the discussion, which I haven't intented to begin when the
software (for both sides!) isn't yet ready!!
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rds
(namely proven to be false, with no know proof to be true is not enough). Well, wait
me yet for reverse examples as now I'm yet busy with programming.
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eaking in many verses. The
problem here is that it is just a rather big hard work to find all (or even
some) the variants... so detailed studying of it is of a far future from now.
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If WHNU module was produced with Perl's regular expressions (these are also
similar in Python), then I recommend to the module maintainer to take a look
to "perlre" manpage about greedy vs non-greedy matching (he needs non-greedy
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ByzX at clean-bible.sf.net (I retell that it is modified Byz with additional
strong numbers which specify all found by computer variants of reading in the
absence of accentuation).
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In WHNU module which is of ThML format there are '<' and '>' symbols not only
in tag names, so that it is wrong XML. You must replace these '<' -> '<', '>
' -> '>'.
I think the simplest method to replace i
Retell from where the strongs in IGNT have come from: from Byz or ...?
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> > > which tells that it is a composed word, concatenation of the word "in" and the
> > > word "one", being a nominative singular adjective. It would mean "being in
> > > one" in English.
> > >
> > > This is completely wrong. It is a numeral.
> > >
> > > The same bug in Mark 4:20.
> > >
> > > How Byz was produced, on which stage this error may appear?
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being in
one" in English.
This is completely wrong. It is a numeral.
The same bug in Mark 4:20.
How Byz was produced, on which stage this error may appear?
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Anything what was under GPL remains under GPL. (However new versions created by you
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$ make -f debian/rules
...
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/porton/t/sword-1.5.5/bindings/swig/perl'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/porton/t/sword-1.5.5/bindings/swig'
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/porton/t/sword-1.5.5/bindings/swig'
make[1]: ***
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> > words, like RWP). For this, however, you don't need any information other
Yes, a better example would be English + some non-Latin-1 script which uses English
letter among other (may be Esperanto is an example).
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other numbering schemes to the
natural numbers (by files).
If a verse in a numbering scheme is two verses in an another scheme, let in
the first scheme it would be represented as the first of the two natural
numbers of the second scheme.
(Almost) perfect mathematically!
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So we need explicit language tags! This is the way W3C has choosen for HTML!
BTW, XML standard specifies xml:lang attributes for this!
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d monospace.
Also list of fonts are supported in CSS:
:lang(en) { font-family: "Times New Roman", "Arial", serif }
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Debian libsword is yet 1.5.3 version. When it will be upgraded?
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(Just JavaScript is probably not enough as I need complex
things such as XML parsing and JavaScript by itself is probably to slow.)
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Hi Elbourne,
What is the current status of MozSword? Why no news? Where is the site?
After looking at screenshots I was intrigued.
Well, what programming language is used among XUL itself?
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Have you noticed the file (a Greek NT with morphology) at
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/doc/bible/texts/greek/ubs.tar.gz?
Not sure about copyright and not sure about simplicity to implement for us...
but probably we can make a module from it...
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> Does anyone strongly object to me putting the sword stuff into a 'sword'
> namespace?
[skip]
> that ok?
Ok for me, only desirable to provide the compatibility mode (turned on by a
macro) with Sword in global namespace. (We can throw it away after several
releases.
t it to KOI8-R or CP1251 to
make the file smaller?
> What about Hebrew and Greek? Do we use UTF-8 for that?
Yes, UTF-8.
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"Testers Information Page" link to http://sword.sourceforge.net/sword/develop/t
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