I would never have imagined it would have taken this long for 300 lines of
code to propagate across the planet.
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From: Rich Brown via Bloat
Date: Tue, May 14, 2024, 8:15 AM
Subject: [Bloat] fq_codel Day - it's twelve years old!
To: bloat
My calendar remind
> To my surprise, there was pushback on the figure, so I've responded to
>>>> try to educate this group on streaming usage in the hope that the people
>>>> working on the latency problem under load (core reason for this group to
>>>> exist) can also be aware of the minimum bandwidth needs to ensure they
>>>> don't plan bas
I wish I had gone to the 802.11wg more regularly than I did. I only
gave one bloat related presentation in 2014, shipped the
make-wifi-fast code in 2016(?), and never went back. IETF ate all my
money and time. I just assumed they were all in the slipstream of
linux and openwrt. :/
I did have a gr
Sometimes I look at this old document and dream about what might have been.
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 7:37 PM Dave Taht wrote:
>
>
> A genesis point for the creation of this email list was this failed, too
> ambitious, and too multi-faceted, project proposal from over 2 years back.
> See and comm
This was a wonderful post, rich!
I note that preseem, paraqum, bequant and libreqos (a bufferbloat.net
backed project) are in the fq codel or cake Middlebox for isps *Qoe) market
and all of us have made a substantial dent in the problem for oh, call it
1000 isps worldwide total between us. Comcas
re. I do wish SCE had won, as it was
backwards compatible.
On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 12:15 PM Jeremy Austin wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 11:11 AM Dave Taht via Starlink
> wrote:
>>
>> The RFC is very plausible but the methods break down in multiple ways,
>&
one
>
> Regards,
>
> David F.
>
> Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 06:50:41 -0400
> From: Rich Brown
> To: Eugene Y Chang
> Cc: Sebastian Moeller , Colin_Higbie
> , Dave Taht via Starlink
>
> Subject: Re: [Starlink] The "reasons" that bufferbloat is
On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 3:42 PM Rich Brown wrote:
>
> On Apr 30, 2024, at 6:10 PM, Dave Taht wrote:
>
> I think that the starlink results will create competitive pressure on the
> landline ISPs (and starlink will continue their rapid growth, being that
> they drop their next hop direct into multip
;
> Cheers,
> Colin
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Starlink On Behalf Of
> starlink-requ...@lists.bufferbloat.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2024 3:05 PM
> To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> Subject: Starlink Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15
>
>
> -
I have been very busy on other things these past few months and got
behind on managing the list. Apologies.
The highlight of my year (so far) was camping out at cape canaveral 2
weeks ago and seeing two starlink launches, playing the heck out of my
guitar,
and piano... and ultimately... appearing
I did my usual bufferbloat rap on this pretty excellent podcast. What
I am most proud of however,
was showing off my mom´s art in this segment here, including her most
powerful piece "Sad Sam".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFWSyMp3xg&t=1098s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0Tmvv5jJKs Epi
I am curious what the real world bandwidth requirements are for live
sports, streaming? I imagine during episodes of high motion, encoders
struggle.
On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 12:42 PM Colin_Higbie via Starlink
wrote:
>
> To the comments and question from Dave Collier-Brown in response to my sayin
There was a statement at the end of your blog post that I did not have
privs to respond to.
Honest question: What does digital equity really mean to most people?
"Digital equity is a condition in which all individuals and
communities have the information technology capacity needed for full
partic
I am curious if anyone here is at scale this week? (it is in pasadena, and
one of my favorite conferences - https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/21x )
One of our core bufferbloat contributors (david lang) used to fq_codel the
wifi there and they built custom boxes to manage the wifi in general
(lev
A long document describing this appeared a bit back.
I do not know how much or even if, it differs in any substantial
respect from prior strategies.
https://www.ntia.gov/sites/default/files/publications/national-spectrum-strategy-implementation-plan.pdf
In other news, the House voted to ban tikt
To elon´s comment - for gaming, consistent latency is more important
than low latency. Most game netcode can compensate for a consistent
range of rtts in the 20-100ms range, but not jitter in that range or
beyond. Certainly consistently low latency is great for gaming (vr/ar)
also, and a big benefi
For those of you not hitting reload on starship news by the minute...
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-3
I had hoped to fly in for the party tonight, but alas - I can see them
not launching tomorrow as being likely but after a launch (perhaps by
the weekend) I am
I had missed this talk of his. Great talk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOYOvp6X10g
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I am deeply appreciative of everyones efforts here over the past 3
years, and within starlink burning the midnight oil on their 20ms
goal, (especially nathan) to make all the progress made on their
systems in these past few months. I was so happy to burn about 12
minutes, publicly, taking apart
"Over the past month, we have meaningfully reduced median and
worst-case latency for users around the world" →
https://api.starlink.com/public-files/StarlinkLatency.pdf
Thread here:
https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1766179308887028005
It's a really beautiful plot and invalidates a few pap
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From: Dave Hart
Date: Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 3:18 PM
Subject: Fwd: FW: Memorial service for David Mills
To: , NTP WG , <
time-n...@lists.febo.com>, NANOG
The University of Delaware is hosting a memorial service for "Father Time"
David Mills this coming Monday
This was delicious:
"If latency doesn’t matter, can I create a service that cross-ships
1TB HDDs overnight and call it broadband?" -
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39533800#39534166
Could someone weigh in over there with the current starlink measuremetns.
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 11:08 PM
One of the things I learned today was that starlink has published an
extensive guide as to how existing BGP AS holders can peer with them
to get better service. I am curious if there is a way to see how many
have peered already, how many they could actually peer with?, and
progress over time since
Ooops I meant this to be in response to your last point below...
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 2:31 AM Dave Taht wrote:
>
> Starlink has described how to peer with them extensively now. It is
> still kind of confusing to me - say I had fios to the business, and a
> AS that met their requirements, I cou
Starlink has described how to peer with them extensively now. It is
still kind of confusing to me - say I had fios to the business, and a
AS that met their requirements, I could also somehow dual home that AS
to my starlink terminal, and it would be a business class service
required?
https://starl
While nobody reads footnotes much, and I would really like you to cite
this as the instigator of a lot of research into this area, also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9gLo6Xrwgw
because of all that rage and frustration is what keyed off 3 years of
effort. Think of it as newton noticed an apple
And...
Our bufferbloat.net submittal was cited multiple times! Thank you all
for participating in that process!
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-400675A1.pdf
It is a long read, and does still start off on the wrong feet (IMHO),
in particular not understanding the difference between id
I totally did not remember writing this piece about the bufferbloat
projects' history (vs a vs mikrotik the then pending mikrotik
deployment) before now.
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=181289
I have had several people encourage me to write a book, but I fear
only 300 people would read
Given the trouble the moon lander has had communicating, I looked over
this just now.
https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/133x0b2e1.pdf
I reviewed a similar document for the earth-moon corridor by NASA
about 2 years ago, and it was a mess of non-interoperable bands and
protocols. I cannot remember the
https://twitter.com/Megaconstellati/status/1760996758363029734
In general, two can play at this game, and given the low cost and good
range, and relative ease of building a sensor for the starlink
frequencies, I see starlinks fading from the battlefield. For that
matter, nearly every form of elect
This looks like a good gig for someone less irascible than I.
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From: Lai Yi Ohlsen
Date: Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 3:15 PM
Subject: Job Opportunity @ Measurement Lab - Program Manager
To: National Broadband Mapping Coalition
Hello,
Writing to share an exciti
This post, and the related discussion, was delicious.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39449424
And yet our rickety world of cards still stands.
--
40 years of net history, a couple songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E
Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
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The smoothness that you are observing, may be an artifact of the
sample rate you ran the tests at, which appears to be 1/2 second.
--step-size=.05
is a much better sample rate.
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 4:47 PM Oleg Kutkov via Starlink
wrote:
>
> It seems that the latest firmware has some improve
This is a nice analysis and a few animations of some core queue
theory, tying back to Len Kleinrock's paper.
https://dipsingh.github.io/Keep-The-Pipes-Full/
--
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E
Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
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Sign up here:
https://sotn24.sched.com/
Our very own Jason Livinggood, Nick Feamster, & Mike Conlow are doing
what looks to be an entertaining session called "Ditch the glitch".
And here I am with an almost published rant on the side-effects of
slow start verses LibreQos...
There are keynotes fr
oleg is getting some great and surprising results from his tests...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E
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If anyone would like to talk about their work at ietf, iccrg is often
a good place to talk about congestion.
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From: Vidhi Goel
Date: Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 4:26 PM
Subject: [iccrg] Agenda requests for ICCRG@IETF119
To: iccrg IRTF list
Cc:
Dear all,
Although
from here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39200323
There were two things that fell out of reading that article for me.
"each laser is grossly underused on average, at 0.432% of its maximum capacity."
+
"Brashears also said Starlink’s laser system was able to connect two
satellites over 5,
I would love to meet with mediatek, myself.
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From: TWNOG Program Committee
Date: Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 2:58 PM
Subject: TWNOG 5 @ Taipei - Call for Presentations
To: TWNOG Program Committee
Cc: North American Network Operators Group
Dear all,
I'm writing
https://twitter.com/galaxylab1380/status/1751944240655929707
I managed to miss this weekend's launches.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E
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From: Lai Yi Ohlsen
Date: Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 7:52 AM
Subject: [M-Lab-Discuss] How should Internet quality be measured? Join
us for our Community Call on February 2, 2024
To: discuss
Hi everyone,
I hope your New Year is off to a good start! Writing to in
https://www.pcmag.com/news/starlinks-latest-offering-gigabit-gateways-starting-at-75000-per-month
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E
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I would rather like starlink to get latency for
voip/gaming/videoconferencing down to consistently (99.8%) below 40ms.
from
https://spaceflightnow.com/2024/01/13/live-coverage-spacex-to-launch-falcon-9-rocket-on-starlink-mission-from-cape-canaveral/…
“The biggest, single goal for Starlink from a
I am hoping people are all over this. I have a few thoughts towards a
paper from one of my projects, or perhaps I could just update and
summarize multiple rants from my blog, and get in somehow?
Anyway, if anyone would like a insanely cruel pre-reviewer, an
impossible to satisfy test designer, an
This is one of those things where it would be very useful for someone
here to attend, perhaps carrying a starlink antenna in their backpack,
and tossing spitballs from the cheap seats in the back. Anyone going?
https://broadbandbreakfast.com/broadband-measurement-summit/
I am probably at wispamer
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From: Sebastian Moeller via Bloat
Date: Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 2:41 PM
Subject: [Bloat] goresponsiveness learned a few tricks...
To: Dave Taht via Bloat
Just a quick shoutout to Will Hawkins goresponsiveness effort
(h++ps://github.com/network-quality/gorespon
I use "mosh" instead of ssh. It stays nailed up no matter what you do.
It is almost a religious experience to shut down your state on a
laptop, go to a coffee shop, and have everything "still there".
The only major flaw in mosh is that it does not support scrollback.
On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 9:59 A
"Don’t Give Me the Jitters! Peter A. Iannucci•Todd E. Humphreys•2021/09/10
Capturing & characterizing live
Mega-LEOsignalsforFusedandOpportunistic LEO GNSS"
Despite the great title and the signal captures, I wish I had actually
seen the presentation to make sense of the presentation.
https://w
I just wanted to applaud oleg´s efforts for going above and beyond in
keeping the Net working in Ukraine this year.
May it be easier next year, somehow.
https://twitter.com/olegkutkov/status/1741534309813518597/photo/1
--
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 10:51 AM Nathan Simington via Nnagain
wrote:
> If we can provide good service to people without the huge lift of a universal
> fiber to the home build, then the United States is headed in the wrong
> direction and will be wasting a lot of public money.
I tend to think t
I tried gently to shut down the vitriol on this thread yesterday. In
general I prefer we talk about ideas, and not people.
Ideally I would like this to be a place where people can
constructively disagree, and I have encouraged since the start to
outreach to people (male or female) that might be in
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:13 PM David Bray, PhD via Nnagain
wrote:
>
> This GPT(human)bot was responding to the engineered prompt: >>why do you
> think telehealth won't work over LEO services?
>
> As it's Friday, this GPT(human)bot bandwidth has been fully utilized for the
> week. Our servers w
This is principally a male dominated list, and I in general assume
that the public debate over fiber, bandwidth, etc, etc skews heavily
male also.
It is a very good set of questions to ask about how the internet
should be structured to best meet the needs of both sexes, and how
that has changed ov
Thank you very much for writing this post Larry! You said some things that
I dared not!
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 9:23 AM Larry Press via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> I've written a post arguing in favor of Dave's comment on the FCC notice
> of intent to increase the speed
This CFP looks pretty good to me: https://tma.ifip.org/2024/call-for-papers/
Because:
¨To further encourage the results’ faithfulness and avoid publication
bias, the conference will particularly encourage negative results
revealed by novel measurement methods or vantage points. All regular
papers
I do not anticipate any further major changes, although comments remain welcome!
Just add your name, what you are known for, country, and email address
via comment here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit
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:( My old R&D campus is up for sale:
I would love an iperf2 example plot(s) (bad vs good) that a c-suiter
could understand in appendix B.
I am still smarting from how incorrectly this plot was interpreted.
https://github.com/cilium/cilium/issues/29083#issuecomment-1824676409
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 8:24 PM rjmcmahon wrote:
>
> I
I would like to thank everyone that lept into making a contribution to
this document today! It is in much better shape than it was yesterday.
2 days to go!!!
Please comment on the document here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit
If you like where
Thank you. I think they have a pretty substantial track record now!
Vs a vs the seeming silence from many other RDOF "winners"...
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 10:42 AM Livingood, Jason
wrote:
>
> > I am unfamiliar with the processes by which Starlink was disqualified
> from the RDOF?
>
> RDOF Phase 1
We started work on a response to the FCC NOI requesting feedback as to
future broadband bandwidth requirements for the USA early this
morning.
I am unfamiliar with the processes by which Starlink was disqualified
from the RDOF?, and a little out of date as to current performance. It
is very clear
Donations to the core bufferbloat effort are at an all time low,
$832.00/month. [1]
I am presently also in the process of finalizing a response to a FCC
NOI for which I will conduct another funding (and signature!) drive
later this week. It is due December 1, and I hope to start circulating
a roug
Jordin Kare pioneered many laser propulsion ideas. He also wrote this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ryd_p20XEU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordin_Kare
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Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
_
We are still using it, but only those processed data in BigQuery (not
> raw files).
>
> Ricky
>
> On 11/17/23 09:24, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2021-mnqeuws-01/materials/slides-interim-2021-mnqeuws-01-sessa-matt-mathis-prelim
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2021-mnqeuws-01/materials/slides-interim-2021-mnqeuws-01-sessa-matt-mathis-preliminary-longitudinal-study-of-internet-responsiveness-00.pdf
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Were I as ambitious as spacex, I would be looking for other places to
launch from in the southern hemisphere or near the equator.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/worlds-spaceports-mapped/
On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 5:43 AM Ulrich Speidel via Starlink
wrote:
>
> OK, so this seems to be related to a
It is looking real:
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1724899815686029329
Jim Gettys and I had a marvellous time at the first launch attempt. We
stayed at the margaritaville hotel, on san padre island. It was packed
full of space nerds, had a great pool and bar, (oh! to talk about
space stuff wit
To the tune of dan's comments at the end, today's hackernews
conversation and blog post about what can be done, cheaply, today with
a tiny risc-v bluetooth sensor:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38252566
Somewhat related is "the thing", given to the USA by the soviet union
in 1945, an absol
Paul McKenney, inventor of Stochastic Fair Queueing (SFQ), inventor of
RCU, solver of million year problems at IBM and now meta, and all
around good speaker, is giving a talk on "Hunting Heisenbugs" 2:30PM
EST Tuesday November 14th, 2023, at the Linux Plumbers conference.
https://lpc.events/event/
(I am hoping others on this list with real-world AG experience can
chime in? I enjoy realworld stories about present solutions and pain
points[2])
I have often been dubious of the 5g hope to dominate any major
component of a smart ag architecture except perhaps FWA, (where
starlink is poised and p
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 12:49 PM the keyboard of geoff goodfellow via
Starlink wrote:
>
> ➔➔https://twitter.com/_lennoxomondi/status/1723060544054104407
That is a very good, and now viral thread. The author agreed to look
into sqm-autorate at some point, but we both agree that kenya could
use a m
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 8:44 AM David Lang via Starlink
wrote:
>
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote:
>
> >> There is no prohibition against sharing. The closest that document
> >> comes to it is: "The Standard Service Plan is designed for personal,
> >> family, or househ
no.
There is a natural limit to the number of dishes per cell. The amount
of bandwidth is enormous if you discount the potential impact of
netflix-like traffic, and even then netflix "DASH" traffic as well as
youtube, will scale down to 1.5Mbits/sec or less.
> Le 10/11/2023 à 13:5
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 7:33 AM Bill Woodcock wrote:
>
> > On Nov 10, 2023, at 12:44, Dave Taht via Nnagain
> > wrote:
> > Steve song's analysis here:
> > https://manypossibilities.net/2023/11/starlink-and-inequality/
>
> He makes some good points.
>
> > A) Am I the only person left in the world
My objection to steve song's analysis here:
https://manypossibilities.net/2023/11/starlink-and-inequality/
A) Am I the only person left in the world that shares his wifi? A
single dishy can easily serve dozens of people which lowers the cost
per person enormously. Starlink has limited density per
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From: Dave Taht
Date: Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 5:44 PM
Subject: 25 years of embedded linux based wifi and wireless routers
To: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard
this time! , Greg Retkowski
I have been reflecting on the era we ha
Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 9:27 AM Dave Taht via Starlink
> wrote:
>>
>> I think that the internet should stay up, connecting people to people,
>> through all the conflicts we may ever have. The mails kept running -
>> although censored - all through world war two - the red
I remember how twitter cheered on the "Arab Spring" 2010-2012-
apparently unaware of what
happened in the "Prague Spring", and how it ended. For those of you
that do not know that history:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Spring
On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 9:26 AM Dave Taht wrote:
>
> I think th
I think that the internet should stay up, connecting people to people,
through all the conflicts we may ever have. The mails kept running -
although censored - all through world war two - the red cross, allowed
by all sides, to keep it's relief missions running, the churches
(mostly) doing their jo
I really miss the tools of the old cybergeography project, like
walrus, and am dying to know the interconnectivity between providers
better today, especially the top 20 of each from isp to telco. It
looks like hurricane just made it easier.
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7120
y node can do with the
> limited information at hand, anything else needs additional information).
> What I think is elegant about flow-scheduling is that it taps into essential
> information for digital communications and hence is hard to exploit (hard,
> not impossible).
>
>
&g
The increase in traffic volume here triggered a spamcop alert (when I
did reach out to all my existing lists),
automatically triggered a complaint, a 3 day holding period that I
ignored since it was just the one report, which then shutdown the
server we were on, until I managed to express fully to
As I am taking time off from work to do this, I would very much
appreciate a few dollars thrown into this new gofundme to help, which
I called: “Technical input in Title II & Network Neutrality”. Please
donate AND share with others! I spent 6+ weeks last time to get 260+
people to agree on the co
I have created a new mailing list to discuss title ii and nn
regulation, and called it NNagain,
partially because Ronald Reagan´s old phrase "There you go again",
transliterated, has been an earworm in my head for a week now. (this
is not a + or - for title ii and nn, it´s just my earworm! now,
pos
Despite the sturm und drang here if you google for network neutrality
there was a lot of press coverage 4 days ago.
... and mostly, silence, on the twitters at least. How is mastodon or
other social media?
I couldn´t help but notice that this was essentially, Diane
Feinstein´s last press release
The starlink list was not originally cc´d and yet since I think this
debate concerns that also, I have added the cc back. Carry on!
On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 8:20 AM Sebastian Moeller via LibreQoS
wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> [I took the liberty to remove some individual address from the Cc, as I
> ass
I love that there are oh, 700+ people on these mailing lists, but we
have zero visibility due to google not indexing them, where hackernews
does. This is going to be an issue dominating the web (again, sadly)
for a few weeks at least, and it would really help to be doing it
there, rather than here:
@Sebastian: This is a really great list of what the issues were in the
EU, and if y'all can repost there, rather than here, perhaps more
light will be generated outside our circles.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37694306#37694307
On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 12:31 PM Sebastian Moeller wrote:
>
I put it on hackernews: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37694306
I too strongly support formal NN rules, and am in general, against
some but certainly not all of the title II regulation, and unlike
jason, perhaps, tend to want to supercede lawyers´ claims that it can
only be solved via legal
On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 11:25 PM Sebastian Moeller wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> please excuse a number of tangents below ;)
It would be nice, if as a (dis)organisation... the bufferbloat team
could focus on somehow getting both sides of the network neutrality
debate deeplying understanding the technol
Dear Bob:
I have always thought the long standing dispute over moving flow
queuing (FQ) into the network has always been about enabling common
carriage for the vast majority of possible use cases for the internet
or not, going all the way back to the fights over it in 1989, and many
discussions pr
Jason just did a beautiful thread as to what was the original source
of the network neutrality
bittorrent vs voip bufferbloat blowup.
https://twitter.com/jlivingood/status/1707078242857849244
Seeing all the political activity tied onto it since (and now again)
reminds of two families at war about
but it seems that is not near where I am. I
> inquired and they said I wasn't LOS to the tower. I responded back as to when
> they will deploy Tarana radios in my area and I got crickets.
>
> -Luis
>
> -Luis
>
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 9:34 PM Dave Taht via Starlin
I long for an update from mark. It was a great simulation. I would
love to see it use the known downlink data we are seeing nowadays, and
to see it calculate best case paths.
As for BARD and chatgpt: Chatgpt said I had died in 2020, "leaving
behind a substantial body of work. Bard has me presiding
Tarana, which is indeed, delivering one of the most amazing NLOS WISP
experiences I have ever seen,
just put out this white paper:
https://www.taranawireless.com/a-comparison-of-next-generation-fwa-vs-leo-satellite/
Can anyone question these Starlink numbers for cell size, etc?
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Oct 30: https
A genesis point for the creation of this email list was this failed, too
ambitious, and too multi-faceted, project proposal from over 2 years back.
See and comment on it here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rVGC-iNq2NZ0jk4f3IAiVUHz2S9O6P-F3vVZU2yBYtw/edit
In reviewing it today, I am so plea
One of the things that amazes me is how do they go about focusing the ISLs?
There was a really neat laser MEMs switch chip that google showed off in
some recent presentation that I forget the name of and a few interesting
patents.
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 12:05 PM Inemesit Affia via Starlink <
s
link a écrit :
> > Wondering what else, besides anycast DNS, could be worth hosting up
> there.
> >
> > There is this study going on too:
> https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/101082517
> >
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 14:09:13 -0700
> >> From: Dave T
Attached is a recent cloudflare test of verizon, taken about 1.2 miles from
a rural tower. While the bandwidth was low for reasons unknown, the latency
was... quite tolerable. Perhaps they are figuring this out.
I have no idea how atlas calculates latency or loss. Over what interval? In
the starli
The cake-autorate algorithm for coping with starlink was just updated
here: https://forum.openwrt.org/t/cake-w-adaptive-bandwidth/135379/3262
A few more folk trying it out and discussing on that forum would be
welcomed!
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On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 9:39 PM Ulrich Speidel via Starlink <
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> FWIW, I gave a talk about Starlink - insights from a year in - at last
> week's APNIC56 conference in Kyoto:
>
> https://conference.apnic.net/56/program/program/#/day/6/technical-2/
>
> Also well
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