Jason just did a beautiful thread as to what was the original source of the network neutrality bittorrent vs voip bufferbloat blowup.
https://twitter.com/jlivingood/status/1707078242857849244 Seeing all the political activity tied onto it since (and now again) reminds of two families at war about an incident that had happened generations and generations before, where the two sides no longer remembered why they hated each other so, but just went on hating, and not forgiving, and not moving on. Yes, there are entirely separate and additional NN issues, but the technical problem of providing common carriage between two very different network application types (voip/gaming vs file transfer) is thoroughly solved now, and if only all sides recognised at least this much, and made peace over it, and worked together to deploy those solutions, maybe, just maybe, we could find mutually satisfactory solutions to the other problems that plague the internet today, like security, and the ipv6 rollout. If anyone here knows anyone more political, still vibrating with 10+ years of outrage about NN on this fronts, on one side or the other, if you could sit them down, over a beer, and try to explain that at the start it was a technical problem nobody understood at the time, maybe that would help. -- Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink