Re: [SAtalk] New type of SPAM identification?

2002-12-11 Thread Dennis Boylan
But you can resolve it by having mailing list headers or white list the sender. I can't tell you how many psuedo opt-in emails that I have gotten (somewhere in the 350+ megs worth). -- Dennis On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 03:47:22PM -0800, Russ GilmanHunt wrote: > > Hey now. > I can see using it in l

Re: [SAtalk] New type of SPAM identification?

2002-12-11 Thread Russ GilmanHunt
I'm saying it's not "unquestionably SPAM." Because I don't consider our newsletter canned ham. However, if I suddenly got a weird reason to put in a new header (X-Campaign, for instance, to track ... well I can't think of a way to use one bi-monthly newsletter to one recipient list as part of a "c

[SAtalk] Mail from a certain address

2002-12-11 Thread admin
Hi I have a setup with postfix, anomy, Vexira and SA. The server does only filtering and forwarding to an internal exchange server. I have been asked to catch all mail from one certain external address and send it both to the original recipient and another address. I can't find a way to make pos

[SAtalk] Unable to mail SpamAssassin.Org

2002-12-11 Thread Scot Wilcoxon
http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1283 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-10 21:01 --- Subject: Re: [SAdev] New: Unable To Email SpamAssassin.Org <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host mx1.reynolds.net.au[203.38.119.68] said: 550 5.0.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[SAtalk] web interface?

2002-12-11 Thread Chris LaFrance
I've recently started using SA on a server with 5500+ users. At the moment we are taking requests via email to modify the user_prefs file. I'm wondering if a web application exists that will allow a user to log into their account and modify the file themselves through a web browser as telnet acces

Re: [SAtalk] Unable to mail SpamAssassin.Org

2002-12-11 Thread Justin Mason
Scot Wilcoxon said: > > http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1283 FWIW, there are no addresses at SpamAssassin.org worth mailing. Everyone lives elsewhere ;) But I'll pass it on to the hoster... --j. --- This sf.net email i

Re: [SAtalk] GENUINE_EBAY_RCVD

2002-12-11 Thread Louis Bohm
This is probably a very stupid question. But where is this option listed??? I looked in the docs for Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf and do not see it. Also where are all these rules I see people talking about. Are these mimedefang rules??? I am running SA 2.43 and Spamass-milter with Sendmail 8.1

re: [SAtalk] Help with postfix / amavisd-new / spamassassin gateway

2002-12-11 Thread john public
I thought I'd post a follow-up as to what my looping problems were. All problems could be traced to postfix's master.cf file. In this file, I had fat-fingered two entries which were causing postfix to re-evaluate the incoming mail and pass it off to amavis over and over. >From /etc/postfix/

RE: [SAtalk] Unable to mail SpamAssassin.Org

2002-12-11 Thread Michael Moncur
> FWIW, there are no addresses at SpamAssassin.org worth mailing. > Everyone lives elsewhere ;) The "FAQ Owner" link on the FAQ page goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - perhaps it shouldn't? -- Michael Moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "If the Phone Doesn't Ring, It's Me" --Ji

[SAtalk] Fw: Setup Guide

2002-12-11 Thread Jerry Rasmussen
I was wondering if anyone knew where I could find a setup guide for SpamAssassin and Sendmail or postfix. Running on a Redhat 8.0 server. The would be a relay server that would forward the email to an exchange 2000 server. I did find the setup guide on Advosys site, But I was hoping to find

Re: [SAtalk] Mail from a certain address

2002-12-11 Thread Evan Platt
At 04:50 AM 12/11/2002, admin wrote: Hi I have a setup with postfix, anomy, Vexira and SA. The server does only filtering and forwarding to an internal exchange server. I have been asked to catch all mail from one certain external address and send it both to the original recipient and another ad

Re: [SAtalk] web interface?

2002-12-11 Thread Patrick Bores
I've put together a web interface that allows users to change the required_hits, and add/delete blacklist_from, whitelist_from, and whitelist_to directives. It's written in PHP, and requires that the user_prefs file have group write permissions for the same group that the web server runs as. L

[SAtalk] Files called via include?

2002-12-11 Thread Charles Menzes
Is it possible for a file to be called into the local.cf file via an 'include' style statement? I have quite an extensive list of whitelist_from that I would like to be able to pull in from an external file. Thanks -c --- This sf.net email

Re: [SAtalk] web interface?

2002-12-11 Thread Chris LaFrance
I am definately interested in checking this out. Thanks. -- Chris LaFrance email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Is sloppiness in speech caused by ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care." -- William Safire On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Patrick Bores wrote: > I've put together a web interface that al

Re: [SAtalk] Mail from a certain address

2002-12-11 Thread Russ GilmanHunt
man procmailex is your friend :) In the user's home directory, make a file called ".procmailrc" (note the dot). The contents of the file should look something like this: :0 c * ^From.*[EMAIL PROTECTED] ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assuming your Postfix / Anomy / Vexira / SA also includes Procmail, thi

[SAtalk] rejection notice being sent

2002-12-11 Thread Bryan James
we have just implemented yesterday, spamassassin with using anomy sanitizer as a relay box in front of our exchange server. I've gotten reports today from a listserv owner that members have reported receiving "rejection" notices about duplicated posts. from our SpamAssassin box. I haven't seen any

Re: [SAtalk] web interface?

2002-12-11 Thread Patrick Bores
Here's the PHP template I wrote for my small user base (slightly modified for public consumption). You'll have to write your own authentication code. All this template really requires is that you set the $user_dir variable. Also, it assumes that the first line in the user_prefs file is the "req

Re: [SAtalk] Files called via include?

2002-12-11 Thread Matt Kettler
No need... From what I've read in the past SpamAssassin will actually parse all files in /etc/mail/spamassassin, not just local.cf. At 10:52 AM 12/11/2002 -0600, Charles Menzes wrote: Is it possible for a file to be called into the local.cf file via an 'include' style statement? I have quite an

Re: [SAtalk] web interface?

2002-12-11 Thread Daemon
Me too! Mark On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:59:43 -0500 (EST) Chris LaFrance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am definately interested in checking this out. Thanks. > > -- > Chris LaFrance > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Is sloppiness in speech caused by ignorance or apathy? > I don't know and I d

Re: [SAtalk] web interface?

2002-12-11 Thread Mark H. Granoff
Patrick: I would be very interested in this. Could you send me a tar file or something with the bits? On a related note, is there a way for me to provide per-user prefs for user's whose mail is not actually delivered on my server but is processed by SA? (Basically, I have several alises for fam

Re: [SAtalk] web interface?

2002-12-11 Thread Patrick Bores
Mark, I posted the file to the SATalk list. Hopefully it made it through okay. If not, I"ll post a URL link. Don't know about your second question. Sounds like one for the SA developers. Patrick On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 12:26 PM, Mark H. Granoff wrote: Patrick: I would be very int

[SAtalk] white and blacklist .cf files

2002-12-11 Thread Matthew Boeckman
Hi, I am running spamassassin sitewide for my company, using spamd/spamc and sendmail. I think I have misunderstood something from the documentation: "SpamAssassin is configured using some traditional UNIX-style configuration files, loaded from the /usr/share/spamassassin and /etc/mail/spamas

Re: [SAtalk] white and blacklist .cf files

2002-12-11 Thread rODbegbie
Matthew Boeckman wrote: > I am running spamassassin sitewide for my company, using spamd/spamc > and sendmail. I think I have misunderstood something from the > documentation: spamd compiles and stores the system-wide rules on start-up to speed up processing. If you edit the local.cf file, you sh

Re: [SAtalk] web interface?

2002-12-11 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 01:26:04PM -0500, Mark H. Granoff wrote: > On a related note, is there a way for me to provide per-user prefs for > user's whose mail is not actually delivered on my server but is > processed by SA? (Basically, I have several alises for family members > that forward to th

Re: [SAtalk] white and blacklist .cf files

2002-12-11 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:49:28PM -0600, Matthew Boeckman wrote: > Hi, > > I am running spamassassin sitewide for my company, using spamd/spamc > and sendmail. I think I have misunderstood something from the documentation: > > "SpamAssassin is configured using some traditional UNIX-style

[SAtalk] user_prefs.template file not work?

2002-12-11 Thread Jchen22
Hi, trying to play with SA, looks like the config file is not working: I am logged in as a regular user (not root), when run spamassassin < myemail_file_with_full_header > out.msg or spamc -p port_number_of_spamd < input.msg > out.msg The option specified in the user_prefs.template is not

Re: Re: [SAtalk] web interface?

2002-12-11 Thread James D. Stallings
Yes If you have a URL for this, please publish. That would be great!! Thanks Jim On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Patrick Bores ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Mark, > > I posted the file to the SATalk list. Hopefully it made it through > okay. If not, I"ll post a URL link. > Don't know about

Re: [SAtalk] user_prefs.template file not work?

2002-12-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 02:50:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The option specified in the user_prefs.template is not taking effect. ( the copies >in /user/local/share/ and ~myhome/.spamassassin are the same). Anyone knows why? the filename is "user_prefs". the ".template" part just indica

RE: [SAtalk] user_prefs.template file not work?

2002-12-11 Thread Jchen22
So if I create the file with the right name (user_prefs) it should work? I just tried but seems not working... -Original Message- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:21 PM To: Chen , Jun Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] user_pre

[SAtalk] Upgrade

2002-12-11 Thread Mark
Hello, How easy is it to upgrade from 2.01 to 2.43? Do I need to make substantion config-changes? Is an upgrade even needed? Thanks! - Mark System Administrator Asarian-host.org --- "If you were supposed to understand it, we wouldn't call it code." - FedEx --

Re: [SAtalk] user_prefs.template file not work?

2002-12-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:29:24PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So if I create the file with the right name (user_prefs) it should work? I just >tried but seems not working... It should. ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "The Internet is like crack for smart people

Re: [SAtalk] Upgrade

2002-12-11 Thread Jonathan Nichols
> > How easy is it to upgrade from 2.01 to 2.43? Do I need to make substantion > config-changes? Is an upgrade even needed? > It's very easy. I did it not too long ago.. just did "install Mail::SpamAssassin" from CPAN. You might want to check the new manpage for spamd, as I think there were a few

RE: [SAtalk] rejection notice being sent

2002-12-11 Thread Bryan James
Ok found out more information. my relay box is delieverying to the To field so that list servers and aliased accounts are delivered back to the To: and the the Delivered-To: field. anyone know how to correct this? Bryan James Armstrong Teasdale LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bryan James <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [SAtalk] web interface?

2002-12-11 Thread Mark H. Granoff
Duncan Findlay wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 01:26:04PM -0500, Mark H. Granoff wrote: On a related note, is there a way for me to provide per-user prefs for user's whose mail is not actually delivered on my server but is processed by SA? (Basically, I have several alises for family members t

[SAtalk] Web forms for editing user preferences

2002-12-11 Thread scott
Wanting to put together some webscripts to let users edit their SpamAssassin preferences - and not wanting to reinvent the wheel - I found these packages on the spamassassin site for setting user preferences via web forms: http://spamassassin.org/devel/php-sa-mysql-0.5.tar.gz http://spamassassi

[SAtalk] Anti-spam-assassination?

2002-12-11 Thread Kurt Andersen
Seen this blurb from today? I can't quite figure out how I feel about it. --Kurt >From Infoworld's Technology and Business Daily: > E-BUSINESS TECHNOLOGY REVIEW: TEST YOUR E-MAIL TEXT > > Considering the potential of e-mail communications (see > above), it's a crying shame that the growing flo

RE: [SAtalk] user_prefs.template file not work?

2002-12-11 Thread Jchen22
Thanks... it works if I changed the one in my home directory. The one in /usr/local/share is not installed yet. If it is, will this one takes precedence over the one in my local directory? -Original Message- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2

Re: [SAtalk] user_prefs.template file not work?

2002-12-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:55:15PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks... it works if I changed the one in my home directory. The one in >/usr/local/share is not installed yet. If it is, will this one takes precedence over >the one in my local directory? Well, typically: - there is the sha

Re: [SAtalk] Anti-spam-assassination?

2002-12-11 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:42:26PM -0800, Kurt Andersen wrote: > Seen this blurb from today? I can't quite figure out > how I feel about it. > > --Kurt > > >From Infoworld's Technology and Business Daily: > > > E-BUSINESS TECHNOLOGY REVIEW: TEST YOUR E-MAIL TEXT > > > > Considering the potenti

Re: [SAtalk] user_prefs.template file not work?

2002-12-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Most likely the cause of your user_prefs not being parsed is a typo in the file. When SA runs normally, it has no place to complain about invalid input, so it just skips large chunks of the rules.You must turn on debug output for it to be able to complain about such things. Try: spamassassin --

Re: [SAtalk] Anti-spam-assassination?

2002-12-11 Thread Brian May
Fine by me.. they aren't using my baysien databases.. SA-2.50-cvs... I love you. err umm.. yeah. Brian - Original Message - From: "Kurt Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:42 PM Subject: [SAtalk] Anti-spam-assassination? Seen thi

RE: [SAtalk] user_prefs.template file not work?

2002-12-11 Thread Jchen22
Thanks... BTW, when I ran this --lint, it returns 'unknow option: -'... the reason my user_prefs not working was that I only have the user_prefs.template file, not user_prefs. -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:10 PM To:

Re: [SAtalk] web interface?

2002-12-11 Thread Patrick Bores
You can download the PHP template at: http://patrick-cf.winternet.com/rules.php.txt Remember, you must program your own authentication, and the user_prefs file must be writable by the group the web server runs as. There isn't enough error checking to this effect yet, but it should be workable.

RE: [SAtalk] user_prefs.template file not work?

2002-12-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Hmm.. if --lint doesn't work, what version of SA are you using? Sounds like something from the 2.2x or 2.3x, but obviously older than 2.40... If you're using an ancient version you'll have to feed it an email with -D turned on.. it's got no "lint only" mode. spamassassin -tD I'd also advise u

RE: [SAtalk] Restoring user_prefs functionality to spamd

2002-12-11 Thread Victor O'Rear
OK, is there a tutorial so the ISP can enable user_rules without opening the security hole mentioned in the below? Greetings, I'm sorry, but upon further review of this we cannot turn on user_prefs. From http://www.cts.wustl.edu/cts/help/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html allow_user_rules { 0 | 1 } (de

Re: [SAtalk] Anti-spam-assassination?

2002-12-11 Thread Justin Mason
Kurt Andersen said: > Seen this blurb from today? I can't quite figure out > how I feel about it. yeah, me too. Both are SpamAssassin btw. IMO, it's overall a good thing as (a) it lets legit publishers avoid relatively-obvious trouble areas (like talking about spam laws etc.) (b) it lu

Re: [SAtalk] Restoring user_prefs functionality to spamd

2002-12-11 Thread Justin Mason
Victor O'Rear said: > OK, is there a tutorial so the ISP can enable user_rules without opening the > security hole mentioned in the below? oops, hold on, I think I was advising the wrong thing altogether. I previously said: >Victor O'Rear said: >> Spamd, by default, ignores user/.spamassassin/us

Re: [SAtalk] Restoring user_prefs functionality to spamd

2002-12-11 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 02:43:51PM -0800, Victor O'Rear wrote: > OK, is there a tutorial so the ISP can enable user_rules without opening the > security hole mentioned in the below? > > Greetings, I'm sorry, but upon further review of this we cannot turn on > user_prefs. From > http://www.cts.wu

RE: [SAtalk] Restoring user_prefs functionality to spamd

2002-12-11 Thread Victor O'Rear
>From the docs I quoted, enabling user_prefs allows users to run commands as root. I suspect that a form edited sql database would protect the system, but the ISP is of the opinion that any access to user_prefs will compromise the system so there will be no individual prefs. - Which makes spamassas

Re: [SAtalk] Restoring user_prefs functionality to spamd

2002-12-11 Thread Justin Mason
Victor O'Rear said: > >>From the docs I quoted, enabling user_prefs allows users to run commands as > root. > I suspect that a form edited sql database would protect the system, but the > ISP is of the opinion that any access to user_prefs will compromise the > system so there will be no individua

RE: [SAtalk] web interface?

2002-12-11 Thread Dallas Engelken
> If not I was thinking of beginning to write my own, > which leads me to this question Has anyone here > used perl to verify md5 passwords? That probably > belongs elsewhere but it's worth a shot. > > -- > Chris > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > i have already done this authentication scheme, for

[SAtalk] a question about score placement within configuration files

2002-12-11 Thread Gurujiwan Khalsa
Hi, I thought I once saw a spamassasin .cf file with the "score" of a rule inside the same file that defined it. Is this possible? uri WWW_FREE-IREWARDS_COM /www.free-irewards.com/is describe WWW_FREE-IREWARDS_COM they are spammers score WWW_FREE-IREWARDS_COM 6 -- Gurujiwan ___

Re: [SAtalk] a question about score placement within configuration files

2002-12-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 12:20:52AM +, Gurujiwan Khalsa wrote: > I thought I once saw a spamassasin .cf file with the "score" of a rule > inside the same file that defined it. Is this possible? > > uri WWW_FREE-IREWARDS_COM /www.free-irewards.com/is > describe WWW_FREE-IREWARDS_COM the

Re: [SAtalk] a question about score placement within configuration files

2002-12-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Yes, that's the way most rules that users add themselves are done (ie: the ones in local.cf and user_prefs files, instead of the SA-packaged files in /usr/share/spamassassin) Usually only the master /usr/share/spamassassin/*.cf files are set up with a separate score file to facilitate the use o

Re: [SAtalk] Mail from a certain address

2002-12-11 Thread Mike Burger
You could set up a procmail recipe (global or user owned), or you could set Postfix's option to blind copy all mail to a particular address. Then, you just configure that user's .procmailrc to only accept mail from tht address, and dump everything else. On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, admin wrote: > Hi