I'm saying it's not "unquestionably SPAM." Because I don't consider our
newsletter canned ham.  However, if I suddenly got a weird reason to put
in a new header (X-Campaign, for instance, to track ... well I can't
think of a way to use one bi-monthly newsletter to one recipient list as
part of a "campaign" ...*** ), I wouldn't want that header to run up
against someone else's SPAM installation. I don't have control over our
recipient's email boxen, so white-listing it isn't a solution. 

How many of your pseudo opt-in emails contain this header? (rhetorical
question). I don't deny that there are spams that pretend to be opt-in.
I deny that this header is a good test for "unquestionably spam".

-Russ

*** On the other hand, if we were large enough to have several lists and
several newsletters that might be semi-related, I could see doing some
sort of "campaign" to send related information to all the related
lists... but then, it would probably true that a "campaign" like that
would be spam-flavored, wouldn't it?  


On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 08:59, Dennis Boylan wrote:
> But you can resolve it by having mailing list headers or white list the
> sender.
> 
> I can't tell you how many psuedo opt-in emails that I have gotten (somewhere
> in the 350+ megs worth).
> 
> -- Dennis
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 03:47:22PM -0800, Russ GilmanHunt wrote:
> > 
> > Hey now.
> >  I can see using it in legit opt-in mailings. We run one now that includes
> >  html links and tracking identification as part of the uri, so we can see how
> >  many visits and sales are generated by our email newsletters
> >  (approximately). 
> >  
> >  I can't foresee using a header, but it might happen someday. 
> > Russ 
> > Hot Off The Press.
> >  
> >  
> >  On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 14:13, SpamTalk wrote:
> >  > >Some new malware?
> >  > Sure looks like a "unquestionably SPAM" header flag. Refuse it in the 
> >  > milter, heh heh.
> >  > 
> >  (X-Campaign reference)
> >  
> > 
> > 
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