Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:10:09AM +0200, Rainer Sokoll wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:44:20PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > > Good morning, > > > Larry Gilson writes: > > >There was another suggestion that the tests could be commented out in > > >20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or r

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 11:50, Carlo Wood wrote: > Are you 100% sure that is also the case for RBL checks? > It seems 'weird' that this test will indeed be completely > turned off if, and only if, all six related scores are set > to 0 (and not when you forget one). That seems like an > almost compli

RE: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Larry Gilson
Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf indicates that: "Setting a rule's score to 0 will disable that rule from running.". --Larry > -Original Message- > From: Carlo Wood > Are you 100% sure that is also the case for RBL checks? > It seems 'weird' that this test will indeed be completely > turned

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Carlo Wood
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:56:59AM +0100, Nigel Metheringham wrote: > Remember that scoring a test as zero inhibits the test being run at all, Are you 100% sure that is also the case for RBL checks? It seems 'weird' that this test will indeed be completely turned off if, and only if, all six relat

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Simon Byrnand
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:44:20PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > > Good morning, > >> Larry Gilson writes: >> >There was another suggestion that the tests could be commented out in >> >20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or recommended method? >> >> either works fine. This way is easier. > >

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 08:10, Rainer Sokoll wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:44:20PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > > Larry Gilson writes: > > >There was another suggestion that the tests could be commented out in > > >20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or recommended method? > > > > either

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Rainer Sokoll
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:44:20PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: Good morning, > Larry Gilson writes: > >There was another suggestion that the tests could be commented out in > >20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or recommended method? > > either works fine. This way is easier. In this case

RE: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Tom Meunier
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests > > Hey Justin, > > There was another suggestion that the tests could be > commented out in 20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or > recommended method? > > --Larry

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Justin Mason
Larry Gilson writes: >There was another suggestion that the tests could be commented out in >20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or recommended method? either works fine. This way is easier. >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> Alexander Skwar writes: >> >Good

RE: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Larry Gilson
Hey Justin, There was another suggestion that the tests could be commented out in 20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or recommended method? --Larry > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Alexander Skwar writes: > >Good morning, > > > >now that osirusoft is officially

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Justin Mason
Alexander Skwar writes: >Good morning, > >now that osirusoft is officially dead, what should we SA admins do? Set >all scores for OSIRUSOFT related test to 0? Which are all the tests? Is >the following sufficient? > >score RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM 0 >score X_OSIRU_DUL 0 >score X_O

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Rainer Sokoll
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 04:26:19PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Rainer Sokoll wrote: > > > I think it is better to disable rblcheck for osirusoft completly in > > 20_head_test.cf: > > Okay. What about those X_OSIRU_ tests? Are they related to As far as I understand this, by disabling check_rb

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Alexander Skwar
Rainer Sokoll wrote: > I think it is better to disable rblcheck for osirusoft completly in > 20_head_test.cf: Okay. What about those X_OSIRU_ tests? Are they related to osirusoft.com? Seems so. Alexander Skwar -- -> Keine Kopien senden - ich lese die Listen in denen ich schreibe! <- -> Do not

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Rainer Sokoll
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 08:28:56AM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Good morning, > > now that osirusoft is officially dead, what should we SA admins do? Set > all scores for OSIRUSOFT related test to 0? Which are all the tests? Is > the following sufficient? > > score RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM 0

Re: [SAtalk] Scores

2003-08-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:17 PM 8/15/03 -0700, Stephen Boals wrote: Just upgraded to 2.55, and in testing found that I am getting different scores between versions. Has the scoring changed for rules? Can I get some background on why, and thought process? Thanks. New scores were generated in 2.50, and they were

Re: [SAtalk] Scores

2003-08-15 Thread Patrick Morris
Scoring changes between versions because -- well, spam does. New rules or added and old rules are retested before every release. Stephen Boals wrote: Just upgraded to 2.55, and in testing found that I am getting different scores between versions. Has the scoring changed for rules? Can I get

Re: [SAtalk] scores differ in headers and spamassassin -t report?

2003-07-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 12:31:32PM +0200, Tony Earnshaw wrote: > >Hey - that was a good one! I wonder why I've never received a copy - I feel > >left out! Perhaps there's a Nigerian Scam mailing list I ought to subscribe > >to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). > I take it you're attending our conference? I'v

Re: [SAtalk] scores differ in headers and spamassassin -t report?

2003-07-17 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Jim Ford wrote: One user reported an undected spam to me (quoted below, headers included). Your usual Nigerian scam-style spam. It got 3.8 points, but Hey - that was a good one! I wonder why I've never received a copy - I feel left out! Perhaps there's a Nigerian Scam mailing list I ought t

Re: [SAtalk] scores differ in headers and spamassassin -t report?

2003-07-16 Thread Jim Ford
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 06:01:12PM +0700, Alain Fauconnet wrote: > Hello, > One user reported an undected spam to me (quoted below, headers > included). Your usual Nigerian scam-style spam. It got 3.8 points, but Hey - that was a good one! I wonder why I've never received a copy - I feel l

Re: [SAtalk] SCORES

2002-10-14 Thread Denis Braekhus
Quoting spamassassin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How is everyone using SA? Do you auto delete spam after some high score? I > would like to find the safest score to delete spam, and keep the other mail > with smaller score. Personalised the score needed for the users, then let all spam through but wit

Re: [SAtalk] SCORES

2002-10-14 Thread Mike Leone
* spamassassin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote this on 10 14, 02 at 12:06: > > How is everyone using SA? Do you auto delete spam after some high score? I > would like to find the safest score to delete spam, and keep the other mail > with smaller score. I never auto-delete anything. :-) Losing real m

RE: [SAtalk] SCORES

2002-10-14 Thread Steve Thomas
| How is everyone using SA? Do you auto delete spam after some high score? I | would like to find the safest score to delete spam, and keep the | other mail with smaller score. I archive everything first, just in case, then /dev/null anything that scores 20+ and put anything from 5-19.x into a sp

Re: [SAtalk] SCORES

2002-10-14 Thread Chris Fortune
I use a 'suspicious' score of 5-10, and an auto deletion score of 10. Perhaps 10 is overly-cautious because my highest scoring 'false suspicious' email has been 8.9 (an MLM newsletter). Many people here would consider 10 to be too low, I'm sure. I have my clients opt in for spamassassin on thei

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Robert Fleming
--On Thursday, April 4, 2002 2:01 PM -0800 Daniel Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is rumoured to have written: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:31:50AM -0600, Casimir Couvillion wrote: >> Highest in March was 43.4. Several 41s behind it. > > Sounds like a challenge! Ok, this one is from yesterday: > > X

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Rich Wellner
Daniel Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:31:50AM -0600, Casimir Couvillion wrote: > > Highest in March was 43.4. Several 41s behind it. > > Sounds like a challenge! Ok, this one is from yesterday: I can't beat that, but here's everything I've received in the last

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Daniel Rogers
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:31:50AM -0600, Casimir Couvillion wrote: > Highest in March was 43.4. Several 41s behind it. Sounds like a challenge! Ok, this one is from yesterday: X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=47.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,INVALID_DATE_NO_TZ,PLIN

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Scott Doty
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 11:14:32AM +0100, Tony Evans wrote: > As a totally frivolous query, what's the highest score anyone's seen on > [legitimate] incoming SPAM [using the default SA scores]? > > I've seen scores in the low 30's. 45.1 http://www.sonic.net/scott/wowspam.txt -Scott __

RE: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Casimir Couvillion
Highest in March was 43.4. Several 41s behind it. I had a 143, but it was from this list, so I think was a false positive . -cpc- -Original Message- From: Tony Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 4:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Scores on the D

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Gregor Lawatscheck
At 12:14 04/04/2002, you wrote: >As a totally frivolous query, what's the highest score anyone's seen on >[legitimate] incoming SPAM [using the default SA scores]? > >I've seen scores in the low 30's. 41.8 is the record here - used to be 38.x something. Heavy use of RBL (I think flagged by five

RE: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Moncur
It must be partially because I run a bunch of custom rules to single out stock spam, MLM spam, and frequent spammers, but I seem to get higher scores than many people have posted. I get one or two scores over 30 per day. In my archive of the last month of spam (1058 messages total from 3/11/2002

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Top ten (message IDs changed to protect the spamtraps). Note these were when scanning with mass-check, so no network tests. [craig@belphegore masses]$ sort -rn +1 spam.log |head -10 Y 51 /home/craig/spams/spamtrap.mbox:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SUBJ_HAS_SPACES,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_2,NO_REAL_NAME,EARN_

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
On one month worth of spam, here are the highest hits: 30.4 30.8 30.9 31.2 39.5 55.8 The 39.5 triggered the following tests: SUBJ_ALL_CAPS, NO_REAL_NAME, ADVERT_CODE, SUBJ_HAS_SPACES, TO_MALFORMED, PLING, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD, SMTPD_IN_RCVD, VIAGRA, CLICK_BELOW, CASHCASHCASH

Re: [SAtalk] Scores over 5

2002-03-11 Thread Craig Hughes
On 3/11/02 4:53 AM, "Michael Moncur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt Sergeant wrote: >> I would suggest that we be extremely careful about checks that get given >> a score over 5. Part of the beauty of SpamAssassin (and heuristics in >> general) is that usually a hit just contributes to the ove

RE: [SAtalk] Scores over 5

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
Matt Sergeant wrote: > I would suggest that we be extremely careful about checks that get given > a score over 5. Part of the beauty of SpamAssassin (and heuristics in > general) is that usually a hit just contributes to the overall score, but > doesn't necessarily tip things over. Having said tha