Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question (was: Eeek! Bayes expired itself out of existance!)

2003-12-13 Thread Martin Radford
At Sat Dec 13 14:02:53 2003, J. S. Greenfield wrote: > > On a related note...I presume that when the bayesian classification runs > during normal operation, SA headers have not yet been added to the messages. > > Does that imply one needs to be careful to feed non-filtered messages > (i.e., wit

[SAtalk] sa-learn question (was: Eeek! Bayes expired itself out of existance!)

2003-12-13 Thread J. S. Greenfield
On a related note...I presume that when the bayesian classification runs during normal operation, SA headers have not yet been added to the messages. Does that imply one needs to be careful to feed non-filtered messages (i.e., without the spam assassin filters already added) when training manua

RE: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Chris Thielen
Vee Persaud said: > >> Please send the headers from both the first and the second messages. >> Without more information all anyone can do is wildly guess. >> > BEFORE sa-learn > X-Spam-Level: *** > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on > rocco.ncr.pwgsc.gc.ca > X

RE: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:04 PM 12/3/2003, Vee Persaud wrote: BEFORE sa-learn From: "Vee Persaud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 AFTER sa-learn From: "Vee Persaud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 requir

RE: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:28 PM 12/3/2003, Vee Persaud wrote: I was planning on just forwarding any suspect spam emails to an email account on my SA server and running it through sa-learn. I guess that this isn't the correct way to do it ??? No.. that is a *VERY* bad idea to do, because it will cause sa-learn to l

RE: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Vee Persaud
Matt Kettler wrote: > At 02:24 PM 12/3/2003, Vee Persaud wrote: >> It got a score of 3.3. I ran sa-learn --spam on this message and >> now I get a score of 3.0 if I resend the message. I'm a bit >> confused. Did I do something wrong ??? > > How did you "resend" the message? > > If you "resen

Re: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:24 PM 12/3/2003, Vee Persaud wrote: It got a score of 3.3. I ran sa-learn --spam on this message and now I get a score of 3.0 if I resend the message. I'm a bit confused. Did I do something wrong ??? How did you "resend" the message? If you "resend" the message, merely by making a new

RE: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Vee Persaud
> Please send the headers from both the first and the second messages. > Without more information all anyone can do is wildly guess. > BEFORE sa-learn Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 18730 invoked by uid 197); 3 Dec 2003 18:59:54 - Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by rocco b

RE: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Vee Persaud
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I received an email on one of my systems that is not running SA and I > decided to forward it to my SA system to see if it would get > rejected. The subject was "Have amazing s\ex up to 20 times per day > lugpsxw". They use the "/" in the body also to avoid spam detect

Re: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Chris Thielen
Vee Persaud said: > I received an email on one of my systems that is not running SA and I > decided to forward it to my SA system to see if it would get rejected. > The subject was "Have amazing s\ex up to 20 times per day lugpsxw". > They use the "/" in the body also to avoid spam detection.

Re: [SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Evan Platt
--On Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:24 PM -0500 Vee Persaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I received an email on one of my systems that is not running SA and I > decided to forward it to my SA system to see if it would get rejected. > The subject was "Have amazing s\ex up to 20 times per day lu

[SAtalk] SA Learn question

2003-12-03 Thread Vee Persaud
I received an email on one of my systems that is not running SA and I decided to forward it to my SA system to see if it would get rejected. The subject was "Have amazing s\ex up to 20 times per day lugpsxw". They use the "/" in the body also to avoid spam detection. It got a score of 3.3

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-11-28 Thread S. M. C. Butler
    -Original Message- From: Robert Menschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 7:27 PM To: S. M. C. Butler Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question Hello S., Thursday, November 27, 2003, 3:49:46 PM, you wrote: SMCB> * sa-learn --show

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-11-27 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello S., Thursday, November 27, 2003, 3:49:46 PM, you wrote: SMCB> * sa-learn --showdots --spam ./Mail/spam_new SMCB> and got SMCB> . SMCB> Learned from 0 message(s) (37 message(s) examined). SMCB> Did this work? Seems like it didn't.. It looks to me l

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-11-27 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:49 PM 11/27/03 -0800, S. M. C. Butler wrote: Ø sa-learn --showdots --spam ./Mail/spam_new and got . Learned from 0 message(s) (37 message(s) examined). Did this work? Seems like it didnt.. Yep, that means that SA has already learned all 37 messages i

[SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-11-27 Thread S. M. C. Butler
  Hi, I ran the following     Ø   sa-learn --showdots --spam ./Mail/spam_new   and got   . Learned from 0 message(s) (37 message(s) examined).     Did this work? Seems like it didn’t..   FYI. This spam_new dir is an MH folder of spam tha

[SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-10-05 Thread German Staltari
Hi list, i have some questions about sa-learn. It is possible to run sa-learn while spamd is running? It is possible to run sa-learn --rebuild while spamd is running? TIA German Staltari --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-10-04 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello German, Friday, October 3, 2003, 8:11:15 AM, you wrote: GS> Hi list, i have some questions about sa-learn. GS> It is possible to run sa-learn while spamd is running? GS> It is possible to run sa-learn --rebuild while spamd is running? Yes. -Abigail ---

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question?

2003-10-02 Thread Patrick Morris
Sure: sa-learn --spam --dir /var/spool/mailbox/224/sa_spam/in/*orourke.ca Dan Tappin wrote: I have created spam and ham accounts to utilize sa-learn. I am using Tenon's Post.Office on OS X as a mail server. I was running sa-learn like this: sa-learn --spam --dir /var/spool/mailbox/224/sa_spam/

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question?

2003-10-02 Thread Patrick Morris
Oops... drop the --dir parameter (assuming your copy of SA is updated -- the --dir and --file parameters are deprecated). Patrick Morris wrote: Sure: sa-learn --spam --dir /var/spool/mailbox/224/sa_spam/in/*orourke.ca Dan Tappin wrote: I have created spam and ham accounts to utilize sa-learn

[SAtalk] sa-learn question?

2003-10-02 Thread Dan Tappin
I have created spam and ham accounts to utilize sa-learn. I am using Tenon's Post.Office on OS X as a mail server. I was running sa-learn like this: sa-learn --spam --dir /var/spool/mailbox/224/sa_spam/in/ which resulted in 7 messages being learned. Can I specify just the *orourke* files someh

[SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Barnes
I have an idea about using sa-learn, but before I do it, I want to make sure I don't do something dumb (or use sa-learn in the wrong way). Setup: relatively small box (P-III w/ 512 memory) running sendmail, SA 2.6, and WA-IMAP. Only about 10 users. Idea: allow for both person spam folders as we

[SAtalk] Sa-Learn Question

2003-08-01 Thread Cody Sorensen
Is it OK to train spamassassin with spam that has already been marked up(e.g. with a subject tag of *SPAM* and the actual spam message as an attachment)? I have a ton of spam to learn from, but it is all marked up from spamassassin already. Does sa-learn recognize the reporting from spama

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-07-25 Thread Giles Coochey
here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ol2mbox Thanks Giles Coochey -Original Message- From: ian douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 July 2003 03:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] sa-learn question I've been lurking about reading up on training ham mailboxes but don't gener

[SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-07-24 Thread ian douglas
I've been lurking about reading up on training ham mailboxes but don't generally keep mail on my Linux servers... unless I start making aliases and extra mailboxes to keep copies on the server and filter it all by hand. Can sa-learn read Outlook mailboxes? Or does anyone have any hacks/workarounds

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question.

2003-07-23 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:22 PM 7/23/2003 +1000, Rod wrote: Hello. I have just implemented Spamassassin into my E-mail filter and would like some help with sa-learn. I have all e-mail incomming going to directory /var/spool/mail/user I'm running Linux, the OS version I doubt would b

[SAtalk] sa-learn question.

2003-07-23 Thread Rod
Hello. I have just implemented Spamassassin into my E-mail filter and would like some help with sa-learn. I have all e-mail incomming going to directory /var/spool/mail/user I'm running Linux, the OS version I doubt would be of benafit, I'm just looking for the propper syntax of the sa-lea

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-07-10 Thread mikea
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 02:47:50PM -0400, Wendell Smith wrote: > I am trying to feed sa-learn some spam/ham and I was wondering > something... > > Can I feed sa-learn ONE file that contains a large number of emails? I > ask this because I use Evolution and sort my mail into folders. Now > instead

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-07-10 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:47 PM 7/10/2003 -0400, Wendell Smith wrote: Can I feed sa-learn ONE file that contains a large number of emails? It should work if it's in mbox format and you tell sa-learn to use that format. The alternative is to use a tool to split it out into many files in a single directory and use the

[SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-07-10 Thread Wendell Smith
I am trying to feed sa-learn some spam/ham and I was wondering something... Can I feed sa-learn ONE file that contains a large number of emails? I ask this because I use Evolution and sort my mail into folders. Now instead of saving each mail one-at-a-time I want to highlight all of them and then

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question...

2003-07-02 Thread Jim Ford
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 01:22:14PM -0400, Wendell Smith wrote: > I appreciate the help but um... you didn't really answer my > question > So is it bad to push one piece of mail though sa-learn or not? I can't see anything wrong with it - there's a --single option (see sa-learn --h

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question...

2003-07-02 Thread Patrick Morris
From: "Wendell Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 5:05 AM Subject: [SAtalk] sa-learn question... I read in the FAQ that if SA makes an error in judgment with respect to its bayes filter that I can use sa-learn to correct this

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question...

2003-07-02 Thread Wendell Smith
; Leo > - Original Message - > From: "Wendell Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 5:05 AM > Subject: [SAtalk] sa-learn question... > > > > I read in the FAQ that if SA makes an error in j

[SAtalk] sa-learn question...

2003-07-01 Thread Wendell Smith
I read in the FAQ that if SA makes an error in judgment with respect to its bayes filter that I can use sa-learn to correct this. I have also read that it is best to only do this with around 1000 pieces of mail at a time (per sa-learn man page). So is it bad to push one piece of mail though sa-l

RE: [SAtalk] Sa-learn question

2003-05-30 Thread Tom Meunier
12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Sa-learn question Hello I am new to the list, and I am very sorry if this question has been answered. I am running spammassasing along with qmail-scanner and qmail (well DOH). I created an e-mail account where junk e-mails are send to, and then

[SAtalk] Sa-learn question

2003-05-30 Thread Marek Dohojda
Hello I am new to the list, and I am very sorry if this question has been answered. I am running spammassasing along with qmail-scanner and qmail (well DOH). I created an e-mail account where junk e-mails are send to, and then have cron run sa-learn on the maildir of that e-mail address to lea

Re: [SAtalk] Sa-learn Question

2003-02-21 Thread Larry Rosenman
--On Friday, February 21, 2003 07:54:55 -0800 Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My mailboxes on my linux machine are in mbx format. How can I use sa-learn on those types of mailboxes? get the imap-utils, and use icat to convert to mbox temporarily (or on a more recent c-client, use mai

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-01-20 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:43:20 -0500 Theo Van Dinter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 08:27:03AM -0600, Bob Apthorpe wrote: > > They're only in 2.50; 2.50 should be released in a week or two. > > FYI: The "official" answer is sometime Q1 2003. :) We're still doing > bug fixes a