Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-16 Thread Kevin Sullivan
--On 09/15/03 18:23:46 -0400 Michael W. Cocke wrote: If anyone using AOL needs to hear from me, I'll tell them to complain to whatever AOL genius decided that this would be a good anti-spam measure. Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at cather

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-16 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Michael W. Cocke wrote on Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:13:25 -0400: > Pardon me while I expose my ignorance. What's a smarthost, and given > me by which provider? All I get from my so-called ISP is a wire with > an IP address, or do you mean dyndns? > They also provide you with an SMTP server you can u

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-16 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Michael W. Cocke wrote on Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:23:46 -0400: > My ISP might run an > sm > You sure have access to it, not specifically to "it", but there is one you can use, rest assured, you just need to ask them or read the documents they sent you. > If anyone using AOL needs to hear from me >

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-16 Thread Michael W. Cocke
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:07:21 -0500, you wrote: [much snippage] >Your options are a) smarthost, or b) get a static allocation with proper >DNS (forward and reverse) and current domain and SWIP contact info. Make >sure your mail server sends a FQDN as its HELO greeting and that your >, , and role

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-16 Thread Michael W. Cocke
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:07:21 -0500, you wrote: [much snippage] >Your options are a) smarthost, or b) get a static allocation with proper >DNS (forward and reverse) and current domain and SWIP contact info. Make >sure your mail server sends a FQDN as its HELO greeting and that your >, , and role

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-16 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 18:23:46 -0400 "Michael W. Cocke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:39:18 -0500, you wrote: > > >On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 08:13, Michael W. Cocke wrote: > >[snip] > > > >> Pardon me while I expose my ignorance. What's a smarthost, and given > >> me by which pro

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Michael W. Cocke wrote: > Just FYI, AOL is doing reverse DNS and won't accept incoming email if > they don't approve of the sending IP address.. as in, they won't > accept messages from my domain because I use dyndns and not a static > IP. It is probably not that you don't have reverse DNS. It i

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-15 Thread Michael W. Cocke
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:39:18 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 08:13, Michael W. Cocke wrote: >[snip] > >> Pardon me while I expose my ignorance. What's a smarthost, and given >> me by which provider? All I get from my so-called ISP is a wire with >> an IP address, or do you mean dyndns?

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-15 Thread Edward Muller
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 08:13, Michael W. Cocke wrote: [snip] > Pardon me while I expose my ignorance. What's a smarthost, and given > me by which provider? All I get from my so-called ISP is a wire with > an IP address, or do you mean dyndns? [snip] Your ISP has an smtp server no? That is the

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-15 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:34:03 +0100 Paul Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pardon me while I expose my ignorance. What's a smarthost, and given > > me by which provider? All I get from my so-called ISP is a wire with > > an IP address, or do you mean dyndns? > > It's your ISPs outbo

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-15 Thread Paul Hutchings
> Pardon me while I expose my ignorance. What's a smarthost, and given > me by which provider? All I get from my so-called ISP is a wire with > an IP address, or do you mean dyndns? It's your ISPs outbound smtp server. The idea is you can set your MTA to forward all outbound mail to it and it'

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-15 Thread Michael W. Cocke
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 17:31:27 +0200, you wrote: >Michael W. Cocke wrote on Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:52:09 -0400: > >> they won't >> accept messages from my domain because I use dyndns and not a static >> IP. >> > >No problem, use the smarthost given by your provider. That's what it's >for. > > >Kai P

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Michael W. Cocke wrote on Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:52:09 -0400: > they won't > accept messages from my domain because I use dyndns and not a static > IP. > No problem, use the smarthost given by your provider. That's what it's for. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive In

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-13 Thread Jim
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 10:20:49AM -0400, Covington, Chris wrote: > It can't be that specific. There must be some way such as a header > regexp that searches for "unknown" or the lack of a DNS name: Well, we can already look up Received IPs in RBLs, so it can't be much harder to just do a reverse

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-12 Thread Tony Hoyle
> -Original Message- > From: Covington, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 September 2003 15:21 > To: Tony Hoyle; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS > > > header NO_RDNS Received=~ /unknown/ > describe NO_RDNS Sending MTA

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-12 Thread Larry Gilson
Well, just to add one more post to this thread. I contacted Joe Brennan at Columbia. He let me know how he performs this check and said it would be ok to share with the list. Please don't ask me questions about this as he uses Mimedefang and Sendmail, both of which I do not use. Cudos to Joe fo

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-12 Thread Kai MacTane
At 9/12/03 08:26 AM , Scott Rothgaber wrote: Covington, Chris wrote: I've noticed that Columbia University has an SA rule for no reverse DNS: Have you used this technique before? For me, it was an incessant pain in the ass. You will be bombarded with complaints. The very reason that I'm using SA

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-12 Thread Michael W. Cocke
Just FYI, AOL is doing reverse DNS and won't accept incoming email if they don't approve of the sending IP address.. as in, they won't accept messages from my domain because I use dyndns and not a static IP. I wonder how long that stupid idea will last? Mike- Mornings: Evolution in action. O

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-12 Thread Kris Deugau
Larry Gilson wrote: > I think that you will want to lower the score to maybe 1.0. There are > a lot of legitimate mail servers that do not have a reverse lookup. Like my own personal server at work. :/ For whatever reason, reverse lookups on the IP block it's on don't resolve from outside. I t

Re: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-12 Thread Scott Rothgaber
Covington, Chris wrote: I've noticed that Columbia University has an SA rule for no reverse DNS: Have you used this technique before? For me, it was an incessant pain in the ass. You will be bombarded with complaints. The very reason that I'm using SA is that host-based blocking, with the except

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-11 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Chris, > -Original Message- > From: Covington, Chris > This is what I'm now using w/Postfix (should work for any MTA): > > header NO_RDNS Received=~ /\(unknown[ ]\[/ > describe NO_RDNS Sending MTA has no reverse DNS > score NO_RDNS 2.5 > > header NO_RDNS2 Received=~ /\(\[.*\]\)/ > de

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-11 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- From: Tony Hoyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Since there isn't a standard for received headers, no rule will work for >Everyone... >MS Exchange: >Received: from mail.magenta-netlogic.com ([192.168.1.2]) by ireland.local.mnl >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); >

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-11 Thread Covington, Chris
This is what I'm now using w/Postfix (should work for any MTA): header NO_RDNS Received=~ /\(unknown[ ]\[/ describe NO_RDNS Sending MTA has no reverse DNS score NO_RDNS 2.5 header NO_RDNS2 Received=~ /\(\[.*\]\)/ describe NO_RDNS2 Sending MTA has no reverse DNS score NO_RDNS2 2.5 --

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-11 Thread Covington, Chris
> -Original Message- > From: Tony Hoyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > It's actually quite a good spam sign, but you I don't think > you can get that information From the MTA (I used to block on > it for a while, which had only a handful of FPs in over 6 > months... A way to assign poin

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-11 Thread Tony Hoyle
> -Original Message- > From: Covington, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 September 2003 02:22 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS > > > > -Original Message- > > I've noticed that Columbia Univer

RE: [SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-10 Thread Covington, Chris
> -Original Message- > I've noticed that Columbia University has an SA rule for no > reverse DNS: CU_NO_RDNS on > http://www.columbia.edu/acis/email/filters/spamscore.html I'd imagine I'd only give it minimal points. Chris --- This s

[SAtalk] Rule for no reverse DNS

2003-09-10 Thread Covington, Chris
Hello, I've noticed that Columbia University has an SA rule for no reverse DNS: CU_NO_RDNS on http://www.columbia.edu/acis/email/filters/spamscore.html Does anyone know how to implement this rule? thanks Chris --- This sf.net email is sponsor