Re: [SAtalk] MySQL not working? No indication of error when running spamd -D

2003-12-15 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 03:00:19PM -0800, Justin Mason wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Mitch (WebCob) writes: > > Not sure if I should be posting this here or sending to jengland... I > > already did that though... > > > > Thanks in advance for looking at this... >

Re: [SAtalk] Penalty for small emails

2003-12-01 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 12:55:16AM -0500, Aaron Young wrote: > Has anyone experimented with applying a penalty for small emails? With > bayes or without I always seem to get a mail or two in my inbox. They're > all pretty small, under 1k for the message body. SA finds spammy stuff in > them b

Re: [SAtalk] Biz.Yahoo.com 'PRNews' abuse?

2003-11-14 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:40:43AM -0500, Charles Gregory wrote: > Hallo! > > I got a spam today that just missed being spam by a few fractions of a > point. The "Click here" URL was: > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031112/lnw017_1.html > > It's not a redirect, but an actual 'press release' on

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] yahoo redirect

2003-10-26 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:28:54AM -0400, Keith C. Ivey wrote: > Jeremy Zawodny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yahoo is well aware of the SA rules. Any new redirectors they > > add will not trigger those rules and not be open to abuse > > either. > > I&#x

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] yahoo redirect

2003-10-26 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 12:57:40PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Jeremy Zawodny writes: > >On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:58:06PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > >> Chris Santerre writes: > >> >The defau

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] yahoo redirect

2003-10-25 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:58:06PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Chris Santerre writes: > >The default rule in 2.60 is (May wrap in your email viewer): > > > >uri YAHOO_REDIR > >/^https?\:\/\/rd\.yahoo\.com\/(?:[0-9]{4,}|partner\b|dir\b)/i > >

Re: [SAtalk] Time of day rule?

2003-07-23 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 10:26:57AM -0700, C. Regis Wilson wrote: > I would also like to see if this is a useful concept: a time of day rule that > can add a score to mail sent in "the dead of night". This is probably not > universally desired, and maybe should only be a localized setting. That's

Re: [SAtalk] http://news.spamassassin.org/ down

2003-07-02 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 06:08:18AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > http://news.spamassassin.org/ has like been down for 2 days, or is it just me? It's up now. The server had to move on VERY short notice and was between colos for a few days. I posted a note to SA-Talk as soon as I knew a few days ago

On-line again. (Re: [SAtalk] news.spamassassin.org downtime)

2003-07-02 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 10:24:35AM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > SA folks, > > The server that hosts news.spamassassin.org will be moving on very short > notice. It'll be shut down around 9pm Pacific time on Saturday. That > machine will be reloacted to south San Jos

[SAtalk] news.spamassassin.org downtime

2003-06-27 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
SA folks, The server that hosts news.spamassassin.org will be moving on very short notice. It'll be shut down around 9pm Pacific time on Saturday. That machine will be reloacted to south San Jose probably on Monday evening. I can replicate everything to one of my machines in Ohio but haven't co

Re: [SAtalk] rd.yahoo.com

2003-06-23 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 04:32:28PM -0400, Jason wrote: > > Here's one I have wondered why SA just doesn't score an insane amount for. > > http://ca.rd.yahoo.com/f455j4/h534/*http://somesitename > > or > > http://rd.yahoo.com/*http://somesitename > > Try it - it works for any site name you put

Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-15 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 07:40:03PM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > Hey guys. I just subscribed to the list, but have been reading the > archives for a while. I'm aware of some of the other spamd stat > reporters out there. I have written two more. One, spamdstats, is a perl > script that reports stats

Re: [SAtalk] Suggestion to Reduce False Positive

2002-11-25 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 06:59:14AM +0100, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: > On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 the voices made Steve Evans write: > > > Keep a database with every address that e-mail is sent to. Have a rule > > with a negative value that checks that database on incoming mail. > > > > I find it quite un

Re: [SAtalk] Suggestion to Reduce False Positive

2002-11-24 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 08:29:28PM -0800, Steve Evans wrote: > Keep a database with every address that e-mail is sent to. Have a rule > with a negative value that checks that database on incoming mail. > > I find it quite unlikely that any address that someone would send a > message to would ever

Re: [SAtalk] Is this a threat? [SA hate mail sent to me]

2002-11-15 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 07:51:31PM +, Justin Mason wrote: > > Kelsey Cummings said: > > > I just had to pass this along, wonder how many of the other developers got > > this? > > Looks like it was just folks hosting the sites -- wierd. Yeah, it took me few seconds to figure out why he targe

Re: [SAtalk] C-Panel implementation of SpamAss

2002-11-10 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 06:20:42PM +1100, Robin Whittle wrote: > > Cpanel and Exim are commercial programs, some with patents pending - > which involves a lot of cheek for splitting up and managing an > open-source system. They are both, in my limited experience, pretty low > quality. They both

spamd -m safety? (WAS Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin 2.43 released)

2002-10-18 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 04:31:07PM +0100, Justin Mason wrote: > OK, here's 2.43. This is strictly a bug-fix release. Download at > > http://spamassassin.org/downloads.html > > (Er, at least, download it there in about 15 minutes, it's still > gronking. ;) > > Changes: > > - core-dump bug

Re: [SAtalk] Listen on all interrfaces?

2002-10-09 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 03:43:18PM -0500, Frank Pineau wrote: > On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:32:37 -0700, you wrote: > > >What would be accomplished by its listening on 0.0.0.0? What would be the > >downside of doing so? > > > Seems to me that in a system with multiple mail servers, you could > do a

Re: [SAtalk] URL blacklist

2002-10-01 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 10:56:31AM -0500, Robert Strickler wrote: > Original proposal posted December 2001, heh. "Nothing new under the sun". > > To answer my own question, mySQL _does_ do replication the bad news is that > the files are not OS/archetecture agnostic, you cannot replicate between

Re: [SAtalk] separate inbound and outbound

2002-09-23 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 02:26:34PM -0700, Jason Qualkenbush wrote: > > Is there is way to separate inbound and outbound email so that I only check > for spam on inbound mail and ignore the outbound? > > I'm using Sendmail and running procmail on the gateway to call spamassassin. > I know it more

Re: [SAtalk] "new" spam host

2002-09-20 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 12:38:15PM -0700, Sidney Markowitz wrote: > Jeremy Zawodny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hasn't stopped them from attemping to deliver roughly 4,000 > > messages per day--every day. > > How many could they send if traffic from their

Re: [SAtalk] "new" spam host

2002-09-20 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 08:36:18AM -0700, Chris Petersen wrote: > azoogle.com should be added to the global "bad hosts" list. They don't > seem to forge their headers, so a simple from/body check should handle it. > > and here they go, off to my server's blacklist. Yeah, I've had them in the b

Re: [SAtalk] OT Reverse spam.

2002-07-12 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 09:09:39AM -0700, Craig R. Hughes wrote: > > That's probably illegal in a lot of jurisdictions. Probably so. Perhaps I need to put an "acceptable use policy" on my web site. I can warn them in advance that if they violate it, I won't be bashful about responding. Jeremy

Re: [SAtalk] OT Reverse spam.

2002-07-11 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 01:34:19PM -0600, Mike Diehl wrote: > > The other day, I got this little jewel in my e-mail. So I decided to have a > little fun. I sent a reply to the sender indicating that I was very > interested in their investment offer. Never heard back from them. So, I've > b

Re: [SAtalk] Bouncing spam as if I never got it?

2002-07-10 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 07:46:13PM -0400, Brian Kendig wrote: > I'm using spamd/spamc via fetchmail and procmail. When > SpamAssassin flags an email as spam, is there any way for me to > 'bounce' that mail back to the sender as if I never received it? Often, no. The return addresses are often

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Freeze for 2.30, call for nonspam.log submissions

2002-06-10 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 02:11:31PM -0500, Shane Williams wrote: > > I noticed there are a lot of Spam recipes on the Internet (including > Hormel's Spam page). Maybe each release could be a different Spam > dish (Spam a L'orange, Spam Fettucine Primavera, Spam Cheese Torte, > etc.) Hormel provi

Re: [SAtalk] Re: scoring question

2002-06-09 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 09:40:14PM -0400, Duncan Findlay wrote: > On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 05:01:24PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 05:39:28PM -0400, Don Bivens wrote: > > > > | For certain items, e.g. porn, I would like to send > > | these to /dev/null. > > > >

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:33:13AM +0100, Sean Rima wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:19:20AM +0100, Sean Rima wrote: > >> > > >> > It's going to be a rather long wait, I think. Perl 6 probably > >> > won't be production ready for a few years. > >> > > >> > >> Darn, off to the forsale N

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:19:20AM +0100, Sean Rima wrote: > > > > It's going to be a rather long wait, I think. Perl 6 probably won't > > be production ready for a few years. > > > > Darn, off to the forsale NG's to price a new P4 methinks :) If you could use an old Celeron 300A board and CP

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 11:45:33PM +0100, Sean Rima wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Matthew Cline stipulated: > > >> My ISP is also looking at SA but performance maybe a problem. > > > > When Perl 6 comes out, it will have a Just In Time (JIT) co

Re: [SAtalk] Ammusingly misconfigured spam software

2002-06-08 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 01:46:14AM -0400, Duncan Findlay wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 10:49:34PM -0700, Matthew Cline wrote: > > > Just got some spam with the subject "Approved for $5000...For > > $user only", and in the body "Your approval is finally here > > $user" > > > > "$user". Boy

Re: [SAtalk] spamass-milter - what's the point?

2002-06-06 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:15:58PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 10:03:54PM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:40:17PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > > > > I think I'm also going to add an option to just stall the SM

Re: [SAtalk] spamass-milter - what's the point?

2002-06-06 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:40:17PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > I think I'm also going to add an option to just stall the SMTP > connection and never return ok (I don't plan to use that feature > though) If once can specify the duration of the stall, that'd be quite fun... Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Z

[SAtalk] Average Spam Size?

2002-06-06 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
Does anyone with a large spam collection have good stats on the average message size? I ask because I've been playing with the procmail rules that we use to call spamc/spamd on wcnet.org a bit. I'm to the point now where I only send messages to spamc that under 20KB in size. And I'm still trappi

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Bad numbering in this version

2002-05-27 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 04:39:12PM +1000, Shane Hird wrote: > I'll state the obvious and say that spammers could then latch onto > this and use it stop bypass filters. Certainly. But on our site (12,000 users and 3GB of mail daily, 35% of which is spam), I had to put several rules like this in

Re: [SAtalk] Bad numbering in this version

2002-05-27 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 10:00:24AM -0700, Marsha Hanchrow wrote: > This is the accounting I got for a standard, boring, and completely > legitimate response to an e-Bay question. These things previously > got negative scores. Every such response will earn 5 of these 5.6 > points - only the 0.6

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAss Install Error

2002-05-26 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 10:13:03PM -0700, Mad Martian wrote: > That's great, except I have no clue what pod2man is, where it is, or > how to get it in my path. I don't know Unix either. I'm just trying > to stop the 40 spams a day I'm getting and would appreciate any help > in getting this thing

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAss Install Error

2002-05-26 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 06:23:07PM -0700, Mad Martian wrote: > > I am trying to install SpamAssassin. When I run the command "perl > Makefile.PL" in the \home\user\SpamAssassin directory I get the > following Perl error message: > > "Warning: I could not locate your pod2man program. Please make s

Re: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-16 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 04:29:03AM -0600, Michael Moncur wrote: > >Using the -t flag I'm told the USER_IN_WHITELIST test contributed a -100 to > >the hits. Unfortunately, I don't have any ebay.com addresses (or glob > >patterns involving ebay.com) in my user_prefs file. > > I think the 60_whitel

Re: [SAtalk] shirts?

2002-05-16 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:34:47PM -0400, Bryan Fullerton wrote: > One of my users who really, really likes SA was wondering if there > are t-shirts available. :) If the GNUS MUA can have a t-shirt, certainly SA can. :-) Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny | Perl, Web, MySQL, Linux Magazine, Yaho

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Thinking of performance

2002-05-12 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 08:57:32PM -0500, dman wrote: > > Why not just embedd spamc in the MTA itself? Then there's no extra > process running and the MTA just does a little more socket work > passing the message through spamd. In fact, Marc's sa-exim patch > almost does this. The only thing i

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassing performance and memory usage

2002-04-25 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 02:12:27PM -0600, Charlie Watts wrote: > > Doing an alarm() and such would side-step the problem, but not actually > > stop the problem from occuring. > > How about both: regexes -are- complicated, and folks are likely to > write long-running ones again in the future. > >

Re: [SAtalk] Analysis script

2002-03-18 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 09:48:28AM +1100, Barry Andersson wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone written a script that analyses the caughtspam file to > generate a report with information such as: I have one... But I need to dig it up. I posted info about it a few months back but haven't had the time to

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Microsoft Passport (and can't add to whitelist)

2002-02-03 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 11:56:58PM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > > Hmm, it seems that it's trying to match an actual perl regexp, so > you'll want > > .*@PASSPORT.COM > > or such, despite the docs which say it wants a glob-style pattern. Oops. > The docs are right that this is probably a securi

Re: [SAtalk] Re: SpamAssassin corrupts date headers in email...

2002-02-03 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 11:43:48PM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > > No, not really any way to avoid this... it's a fairly important part > of NoMailAudit.pm > > I've looked again and again at the relevant lines and can't make out > what could possibly be going wrong. It seems these header line > a

Re: [SAtalk] where's the F{ine}M regarding ok_locales?

2002-01-21 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 10:59:32AM -0500, dman wrote: > > I get lots of korean spam. I don't see much Big5 actually, (though > someone writes in english, plain ascii, yet sets their charset to > Big5; too bad for them (I actually asked him about it but no > repsonse)). We have users who get a l

Re: [SAtalk] cvs commits list

2002-01-20 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 11:51:04PM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > > I read the CVS docs and it seems like it'd be fairly easy to do, but > the trickier part is having somewhere for the emails to go to -- > need to create a new mailing list on sf.net probably > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something That wo

Re: [SAtalk] I never expected this!

2002-01-19 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 07:23:39PM -0800, brad wrote: > I just turned on SA in an ISP environment using spamd with no > auto-whitelist for about 5000 users. I've got a 12,000 user setup for a community ISP. > I have received about 50 complaints from people Yelling at me to > disable this for th

Re: [SAtalk] From xxx@yyy.zzz header added

2002-01-15 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 08:30:16PM -0700, Charlie Watts wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Justin Mason wrote: > > > I tried that, but it caused bugs for many people :( adding one at > > all times, unless there's one there, seemed to work better. It > > really is a tricky issue though... maybe we sho