[SAtalk] Spamd & spamassassin - one works one doesn't

2003-06-02 Thread Kevin McKillop
Title: Message I'm trying to setup spamassassin 2.31, from the command line spamassassin works fine (run it in test mode with debug output) and detects spam and gives it a score.  I've setup spamd to work with iPlanet Messaging Server, but spamd doesn't seem to detect anything, the output do

Re: [SAtalk] Getting spamd to start on boot.

2003-06-02 Thread AltGrendel
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 03:17, Cassandra Lynette Brockett wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "AltGrendel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:26 PM > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Getting spamd to start on boot. > > > > Very valid response, especally fo

[SAtalk] What's bad about X_LIST_UNSUBSCRIBE?

2003-06-02 Thread Paul Hutchings
As subject really, one of my users had something tagged falsely, this alone gave it 4.3 and I'm not sure exactly what it is/does? regards, Paul -- Paul Hutchings Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd. Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -

[SAtalk] salearn from forwarded messages?

2003-06-02 Thread Ivan Arandjelovic
Hi all, I have two mailbox-es: /var/spool/mail/spam and /var/spool/mail/nospam (ham) that are periodicaly fed into SA by two cron jobs. I fill these mailboxes by forwarding spam/ham messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Is this OK - will SA learn from forwarded messages ?? p.s. I

Re: [SAtalk] spamass-milter and /etc/aliases

2003-06-02 Thread wilma
>> I have successfully installed spamass-milter together with SA >> and sendmail on RH8. ... >> What I would like to do is to redirect all the spam-tagged mail to >> either a local user or to /dev/null. > There's a patch for spamass-milter that will do something like that: > dump mails tagged as s

Re: [SAtalk] Getting spamd to start on boot.

2003-06-02 Thread Cassandra Lynette Brockett
- Original Message - From: "AltGrendel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Getting spamd to start on boot. > Very valid response, especally for the sys admin that has many boxes to > maintain. Some people prefer to insta

[SAtalk] Thanks for all the help

2003-06-02 Thread Jon Reynolds
I just wanted to say thanks for the help everyone has given me in setting up SpamAssassin. I have had it running for a week and it is very cool. I remember when I finally got the last piece of the puzzle solved I couldn't wait for my first spam with SA. Because of SpamAssassin, I have now been en

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2003-06-02 Thread Frank Chibesakunda
 

Re: [SAtalk] Using multiple DNSBLs of the same type

2003-06-02 Thread Justin Shore
On 2 Jun 2003, Yorkshire Dave wrote: > The only rules I've added so far have been 5 or 6 DNSBL rules and one to > catch my X-SpamTrap: header. I started laying out a list of DNSBL rules > and how they need to be organised and grouped for scoring but I haven't > got very far yet. I hadn't thought

Re: [SAtalk] New doc: Postfix + site-wide SpamAssassin + Procmailfor individual 'spam' mailboxes

2003-06-02 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Bob Apthorpe wrote: That seems par for the course - between Cyrus and LDAP, it seems nobody can/will explain how to set up either of these from scratch. I'm slowly trying to build an Postfix-Cyrus-LDAP system and the documentation is either ancient, non-existent, or incompatible with SuSE 8.2. Gra

Re: [SAtalk] Using multiple DNSBLs of the same type

2003-06-02 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 03:25, Justin Shore wrote: > Howdy, Dave. Thanks for the reply. > > On 2 Jun 2003, Yorkshire Dave wrote: > > > Call them all and use a meta || rule for the score, or call and score > > them all then use a meta && rule to subtract some score back off, that's > > what I'm doi

Re: [SAtalk] Training SA based on Outlook mailboxes

2003-06-02 Thread AltGrendel
Lucas Albers wrote: Their is another potential method you could use. Use the isbg.py imap python script to access the folders via imap and learn the spam. http://www.rogerbinns.com/isbg/ You could also use winbind to use the correcut NT usernames for the imap connection from the linux box. http://

Re: [SAtalk] Getting spamd to start on boot.

2003-06-02 Thread AltGrendel
Cassandra Lynette Brockett wrote: I don't see what the problem is here. I compiled spamassassin via "rpm -tb " to give me rpm's to install, and spamassassin is controlled via "chkconfig spamassassin on" and service spamassassin start/stop/restart works fine. If you are running a rhat box, you rea

Re: *****SPAM***** [SAtalk] Please Respond ASAP <- I have aquestion about this crap.

2003-06-02 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 03:38, AltGrendel wrote: > Did anyone else get a s2.txt attachment with this? If so does anyone > have an idea as to what it is? > > It appears to be a damaged copy of the list .sig and ebay's sponsor message, the same as the one below with everything except A-Za-z0-9/ remo

Re: [SAtalk] New doc: Postfix + site-wide SpamAssassin + Procmailfor individual 'spam' mailboxes

2003-06-02 Thread Chris Hilts
> could you describe an alternative scenario using cyrus My setup calls Spamassassin only on incoming mail via procmail and uses per-user preferences in a MySQL db. In /etc/postfix/master.cf: # Procmail delivery procmail unix - n n - - pipe flags=R user=cyrus argv=/usr/bin/procmail -t -m

Re: *****SPAM***** [SAtalk] Please Respond ASAP <- I have a questionabout this crap.

2003-06-02 Thread AltGrendel
Did anyone else get a s2.txt attachment with this? If so does anyone have an idea as to what it is? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 _

Re: [SAtalk] Using multiple DNSBLs of the same type

2003-06-02 Thread Justin Shore
Howdy, Dave. Thanks for the reply. On 2 Jun 2003, Yorkshire Dave wrote: > Call them all and use a meta || rule for the score, or call and score > them all then use a meta && rule to subtract some score back off, that's > what I'm doing here > > meta Z_OPEN_PROXY (X_OSIRU_OPEN_PROXY || X_OSIRU_O

Re: [SAtalk] Using multiple DNSBLs of the same type

2003-06-02 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 00:32, Justin Shore wrote: > I noticed a problem just now that I really hadn't though about before. I > recently added a number of DNSBLs to my sa-mimedefang.cf that weren't in > the stock SA (2.6.0-cvs). > > proxy.relays.osirusoft.com > socks.relays.osirusoft.com > all of

[SAtalk] Using multiple DNSBLs of the same type

2003-06-02 Thread Justin Shore
I noticed a problem just now that I really hadn't though about before. I recently added a number of DNSBLs to my sa-mimedefang.cf that weren't in the stock SA (2.6.0-cvs). proxy.relays.osirusoft.com socks.relays.osirusoft.com all of blackholes.us's country zones, not providers 7 SORBS BLs proxi

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin Milter ? [Partially OT]

2003-06-02 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Cassandra Lynette Brockett wrote on Sat, 31 May 2003 19:27:13 -0700: > Now, my question is simple - has anyone else got a milter running that does > that? > MailCorral will do this on each spam *but* keep and quarantine the mail nevertheless, in the case it wasn't spam: mailcorral.org. Kai --

Re: [SAtalk] how do you prevent the X-Spam-Checker-Version header from being generated

2003-06-02 Thread Adam Denenberg
the easiest way I know if is using formail thru procmail :0fhw | formail "-I X-Smap-Checker-Version" I actually do this also to b/c its annoying.. adam On Saturday, May 31, 2003, at 02:44 AM, Robin Mordasiewicz wrote: how do you prevent the X-Spam-Checker-Version header from being generated

[SAtalk] FW: [SPAM] Dept of Homeland Security - New Speaker Added - Cyber - 5June - Arl Va.

2003-06-02 Thread Brian Ipsen
Title: Protecting Americas Infrastructure: Hi!    Hmm I wonder why the message below hasn't been caught by my SpamAssassin - maybe tweaking of the score values i my setup needs to be adjusted ?? Some might think the message isn't spam - but I do. Comments regarding tweaking of scores and

Re: [SAtalk] Reporting spam via Theo Van Dinter's Handlespam Problem.

2003-06-02 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Theo Van Dinter wrote on Sat, 31 May 2003 15:56:26 -0400: > http://www.kluge.net/~felicity/random/handlespam.txt > Thanks, I found it and the other scripts in that directory. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center:

Re: [SAtalk] Nigerian scam on this list!

2003-06-02 Thread Jim Ford
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 06:05:00PM +0100, S. Anthony Sequeira wrote: > On Sun, 2003-06-01 at 17:32, Jim Ford wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've just had a 'Nigerian Scam' spam from this list. I 'Razored' it (or I > > think I did)! > > > > It got through because I've just put this list on my whitelist, s

RE: [SAtalk] Open lists, irrate users, spam [was: no subject]

2003-06-02 Thread Derek C.
At 09:31 AM 6/1/2003, Gary Funck wrote: I think a "subscribers only" list, which allows only subscribers to post messages is a good idea. Yes yes yes! Maybe they'd even have to answer "yes" to a two line sentence describing the purpose of the list. This is basically what you have to do to get on t

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes safety zone

2003-06-02 Thread Gary Funck
> -Original Message- > From: Mike Leone > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:25 AM > > So bayes wouldn't learn this was spam, unless the score was 19? I > rarely get > spam with scores higher than that. Am I misunderstanding? > In my recent spam mailbox, with about 2500 messages (over the pas

[SAtalk] Nigerian scam on this list!

2003-06-02 Thread Jim Ford
Hi, I've just had a 'Nigerian Scam' spam from this list. I 'Razored' it (or I think I did)! It got through because I've just put this list on my whitelist, so it was awarded -100 points on this basis. Still learning! Regards: Jim ford --- Th

RE: [SAtalk] Open lists, irrate users, spam [was: no subject]

2003-06-02 Thread Gary Funck
> -Original Message- > From: Jack Gostl > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 5:11 AM > > You didn't think there was a person at the other end of the > > subscribe/unsubscribe interface who manually processed things > did you ? :) > > No... but if you aren't going to qualify people who come onto

Re: [SAtalk] Evolution and SPAM Assassin

2003-06-02 Thread Jim Ford
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 03:50:33AM +0100, S. Anthony Sequeira wrote: > I have spent a few days configuring my system to use SA and > Razor.Once I found Bill Stearns excellent reference document, it was a > (relative) breeze. Have you got a URL for the above document, please? I'm trying t

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes safety zone

2003-06-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 11:24:38AM -0400, Mike Leone wrote: > So bayes wouldn't learn this was spam, unless the score was 19? I rarely get > spam with scores higher than that. Am I misunderstanding? yes you are. You need both a score of at least 15 (configurable spam learning value) and a score

[SAtalk] SA-Learn - Yes or Not at All?

2003-06-02 Thread Jack L. Stone
Dear list: First, "hat's off" to the SA developers for the very fine enhancements to SA in the latest versions. The "sa-learn" borders on artifical intelligence and looks like an excellent way of keeping up with the "enemies" new tricks even quicker. My question though is that I'm unclear about wh

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes safety zone

2003-06-02 Thread Mike Leone
Theo Van Dinter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) had this to say on 06/01/03 at 11:14: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 08:34:52AM -0500, Tom Meunier wrote: > > I don't understand the Bayes safety zone, where it's set, and why it's > > hard coded. > > > there. Looked in MAN SA-LEARN but didn't find anything. Anyo

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2003-06-02 Thread Frank Chibesakunda
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RE: [SAtalk] Bayes safety zone

2003-06-02 Thread Tom Meunier
Thanks, Theo. I figured as much, just couldn't find if it was a setting somewhere. > in this case, -1.975 should be outside the safety zone, but > it's > than the -2 required for learning as ham. > Yup, I wasn't using those scores as part of the example, just wanted to reference the keywords.

Re: [SAtalk] Prepended SPAM: ?

2003-06-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 03:47:07AM -0400, Darryl Lee wrote: > So what gets me is, ok, fine, I'm using the system's version, I'll > live. But where in the code is SPAM: getting prepended? I grepped > through my locally installed copy of SA couldn't find it. Yeah, and the documentation is a little

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes safety zone

2003-06-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 08:34:52AM -0500, Tom Meunier wrote: > I don't understand the Bayes safety zone, where it's set, and why it's hard coded. > there. Looked in MAN SA-LEARN but didn't find anything. Anyone feel to make sure people don't shoot themselves in the foot. we removed it in 2.60

Re: [SAtalk] Reporting spam via Theo Van Dinter's Handlespam Problem.

2003-06-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 10:52:56AM +0100, Chris Evans wrote: > to something like: > my $fromAddr = [EMAIL PROTECTED];# what address for reporting > > Crude but would probably work for me. That's the message header From, not the envelope From. Completely different. > could be added to the bl

Re: [SAtalk] RE: SA List (fwd)

2003-06-02 Thread Frank Chibesakunda
please unsubscribe me, thanks for your help --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ Spamassassin-talk

[SAtalk] Bayes safety zone

2003-06-02 Thread Tom Meunier
I don't understand the Bayes safety zone, where it's set, and why it's there. Looked in MAN SA-LEARN but didn't find anything. Anyone feel like pointing me in the right direction? spamd -D snippage follows. -tom - debug: running meta tests; score so far=-1.3 debug: auto-learn? safety=4

[SAtalk] Please Respond ASAP

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