Re: [SAtalk] Re: [SAdev] [Bug 390] New: Spamassassin does not use whitelist entries

2002-06-04 Thread Craig R Hughes
Yes -- SA itself does not communicate with syslog -- which is probably the Right Thing. spamd is the thing which is detaching itself from the terminal and therefore losing SA debug messages; it should properly not drop those messages, but instead redirect them to wherever the output might usefull

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread Craig R Hughes
M. Brownsworth wrote: MB> Ah, sorry. My procmail is doing system-wide filtering and invokes MB> spamc. From /usr/local/etc/procmailrc: MB> MB> :0fw MB> | spamc MB> MB> :0: MB> * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes MB> /var/log/spam Ok, so why not just add a rule at the top of your procmail recipe which looks

Re: [SAtalk] Bug in SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID

2002-06-04 Thread Craig R Hughes
Olivier Nicole wrote: ON> > I don't see how the Subject contains anything remotely like a unique ON> > ID code. Is this right? ON> ON> I did not check at the rule (too lazy.buzy) but maybe the unique ID is ON> characterised by some string at the end of Subject, after a lot of ON> spaces. Yes, 7

Re: [SAtalk] Forged yahoo.com in recieved

2002-06-04 Thread Craig R Hughes
Harry Putnam wrote: HP> Probably should go back to default, and see what I observe. The HP> first time around a message with FREE FREE in the subject and HP> several times in the body came thru, it may have been a fluke. There's a rule for that now in CVS. Any repeated word in all caps which

Re: [SAtalk] Forged yahoo.com in recieved

2002-06-04 Thread Craig R Hughes
Bart Schaefer wrote: BS> Hrm. This was reported once before, and I thought the description had BS> been updated then. Sorry, I should have checked. Ok, I just checked in a better description. C ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS A

Re: [SAtalk] Forged yahoo.com in recieved

2002-06-04 Thread Craig R Hughes
Harry Putnam wrote: HP> I've also had to edit a number of other rules score values so HP> probably just got off on the wrong foot. You're just not going to do a better job of optimizing scores than the GA will, though you might be seeing some "unusual" email that's not paralleling the corpus wel

Re: [SAtalk] Re: [SAdev] [Bug 390] New: Spamassassin does not use whitelist entries

2002-06-04 Thread Bryan Hoover
Bryan Hoover wrote: > Craig R Hughes wrote: > > > $SIG{__WARN__} = sub { logmsg($_[0]); } > > > > I assume you would add the above to spamd? Would it make any > difference > if it were added to SA instead? That is, within the context of using spamd given the tty (about which I know nothing) dis

Re: [SAtalk] Debug output

2002-06-04 Thread Craig R Hughes
Harry Putnam wrote: HP> Duncan Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: HP> HP> [...] HP> HP> >> Going to the debug output, how can I find the output that pertains to HP> >> that message? No date no msgid. HP> >> I don't see why its being overlooked either. Its not a restart HP> >> problem though.

Re: [SAtalk] CS: IBM säljer hårddiskverksamheten till Hitachi/Det lönar sig att satsa på personalen (fwd)

2002-06-04 Thread Craig R Hughes
Lars Hansson wrote: LH> On Wednesday 05 June 2002 00:20, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: LH> > Looks like IT-news in swedish qualifies as part porn whenever something in LH> > the news ends (end in swedish == slut). =D LH> LH> Heh, I suspect the number 6 (sex in swedish) will have the same effect ;) I

Re: [SAtalk] how to disable spamassassin ... ?

2002-06-04 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 01:23:58PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: | | How hard would it be to change it so that if required_hits == 0, then it | skips all checks and just passes through the message with no changes as | !is_spam? This sounds like a good idea, regardless. | Essentially, i want t

Re: [SAtalk] Re: [SAdev] [Bug 390] New: Spamassassin does not use whitelist entries

2002-06-04 Thread Bryan Hoover
Craig R Hughes wrote: > $SIG{__WARN__} = sub { logmsg($_[0]); } > I assume you would add the above to spamd? Would it make any difference if it were added to SA instead? Bryan -- Labor exploitation hurts us all - Sign the petition: http://www.zazona.com/h1bpetition/P/facts.html Proud ugly web

Re: [SAtalk] RE: newbie help

2002-06-04 Thread David T-G
Doug -- ...and then Doug Dempsey said... % % Also, how can I validate if spamassassin is operating correctly. I have the % qmail-scanner insert a tag so I know it has been scanned. Is there away to % do the same thing with spamassassin? I don't have answers for your first batch of questions, bu

[SAtalk] RE: newbie help

2002-06-04 Thread Doug Dempsey
Also, how can I validate if spamassassin is operating correctly. I have the qmail-scanner insert a tag so I know it has been scanned. Is there away to do the same thing with spamassassin? Thanks Doug -Original Message- From: Doug Dempsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, Jun

[SAtalk] newbie help

2002-06-04 Thread Doug Dempsey
Does someone have a basic recipe I can look over to validate my installation? I think it is installed right but I don't know how to confirm it. Additionally from the reading I have one specific question. How do I setup this file /usr/bin/spamd -F 0 -L -x -u spamc to run with the specified permissi

Re: [SAtalk] Bug in SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID

2002-06-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
> I don't see how the Subject contains anything remotely like a unique > ID code. Is this right? I did not check at the rule (too lazy.buzy) but maybe the unique ID is characterised by some string at the end of Subject, after a lot of spaces. Olivier ___

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
>Suppose a recipient wanted a message that had been marked as spam by >mistake, intercepted, and archived. Is there a way to deliver this >specific message to the recipient, preventing it from being >intercepted again? It would involve circumventing spamd's scanning >this message so that it

Re: [SAtalk] CS: IBM säljer hårddiskverksamheten till Hitachi/Det lönar sig att satsa på personalen (fwd)

2002-06-04 Thread Lars Hansson
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 00:20, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: > Looks like IT-news in swedish qualifies as part porn whenever something in > the news ends (end in swedish == slut). =D Heh, I suspect the number 6 (sex in swedish) will have the same effect ;) --- Lars Hansson __

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread Michelle Brownsworth
>On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, M. Brownsworth wrote: > >> Ah, sorry. My procmail is doing system-wide filtering and invokes >> spamc. >> >> $DEFAULT is the default used by the vanilla procmail from FreeBSD >> 4.5's port. The default mail spool directory is /var/mail. The Perl >> script to redeliver

Re: [SAtalk] How did I get this message ? To == From != me

2002-06-04 Thread Max Paperno
Chris, >Would some one please explain to me how this mail got to me, or where I could go to >learn more. To use the classic snail-mail analogy, what you're seeing is the letter itself, not the envelope it was delivered in. The envelope in this case is the actual SMTP session which led to th

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, M. Brownsworth wrote: > Ah, sorry. My procmail is doing system-wide filtering and invokes > spamc. > > $DEFAULT is the default used by the vanilla procmail from FreeBSD > 4.5's port. The default mail spool directory is /var/mail. The Perl > script to redeliver runs as r

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread M. Brownsworth
>On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, M. Brownsworth wrote: > >> Suppose a recipient wanted a message that had been marked as spam by >> mistake, intercepted, and archived. Is there a way to deliver this >> specific message to the recipient, preventing it from being >> intercepted again? >[...] >> BTW, procm

[SAtalk] How did I get this message ? To == From != me

2002-06-04 Thread chris albert
Hi, I just got this spam (header only appended below), and it is characteristic of a type of spam I have gotten recently where the To and From addresses in the headers are the same, but there seems to be no part in the header that would indicate a local address. euler.DMS.UMontreal.CA is my s

Re: [SAtalk] [OT] Looking for hosting

2002-06-04 Thread Matthew Cline
On Tuesday 04 June 2002 03:12 pm, Craig R Hughes wrote: > SA folks > As some of you may know from reading about it in Simson Garfinkel's recent > column, or from other hints on the grapevine, I have recently incorporated > a company to commercialize a product based on SpamAssassin. Cool! And g

Re: [SAtalk] Debug output

2002-06-04 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 10:14:21AM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > Duncan Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > >> Going to the debug output, how can I find the output that pertains to > >> that message? No date no msgid. > >> I don't see why its being overlooked either. Its not a r

Re: [SAtalk] Re: [SAdev] [Bug 390] New: Spamassassin does not use whitelist entries

2002-06-04 Thread Craig R Hughes
Bryan Hoover wrote: BH> Harry Putnam wrote: BH> BH> > So I think Duncan has hit it, in that -d (daemonize) silences the BH> > debug output. BH> BH> Indeed sir. I was woefully ignorant of the behavior. BH> BH> Does that mean too, that when spamd calls SA, SA does not log as usual? BH> My thought

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, M. Brownsworth wrote: > Suppose a recipient wanted a message that had been marked as spam by > mistake, intercepted, and archived. Is there a way to deliver this > specific message to the recipient, preventing it from being > intercepted again? [...] > BTW, procmail is my

[SAtalk] [OT] Looking for hosting

2002-06-04 Thread Craig R Hughes
SA folks As some of you may know from reading about it in Simson Garfinkel's recent column, or from other hints on the grapevine, I have recently incorporated a company to commercialize a product based on SpamAssassin. I will continue to dedicate a lot of time to the open source project; this is

[SAtalk] fyi - new tactic on subjects

2002-06-04 Thread Neulinger, Nathan
Just got a penis enlargement spam with "Time - 1:57:19 pm" in the subject. Might be a pattern worth matching on worth an extra half-point or so. -- Nathan Nathan Neulinger EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread M. Brownsworth
David T-G spaketh: >% Some good info and suggestions in your reply. What do you think of > >Happy to help! > >% this brute-force approach? > >Hrmmm... > >% $cf = '/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf'; >% system("cp -p $cf ${cf}.tmp"); # Preserve original >% open(CF, ">>$cf") || die "Can't open $cf

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread David T-G
Michelle, et al -- ...and then M. Brownsworth said... % % >...and then M. Brownsworth said... % >% ... % >% this message so that it can be redelivered to the user's local % >% mailbox. % > % >In some recent posts there has been talk of SA automatically (that is, in % >the default configuration)

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread M. Brownsworth
>Michelle -- > >...and then M. Brownsworth said... >% >% Suppose a recipient wanted a message that had been marked as spam by >% mistake, intercepted, and archived. Is there a way to deliver this >% specific message to the recipient, preventing it from being > >Almost certainly; anything is possi

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread David T-G
Michelle -- ...and then M. Brownsworth said... % % Suppose a recipient wanted a message that had been marked as spam by % mistake, intercepted, and archived. Is there a way to deliver this % specific message to the recipient, preventing it from being Almost certainly; anything is possible :

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread M. Brownsworth
>On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 11:54:55AM -0700, M. Brownsworth wrote: >> Suppose a recipient wanted a message that had been marked as spam by >> mistake, intercepted, and archived. Is there a way to deliver this >> specific message to the recipient, preventing it from being >> intercepted again?

[SAtalk] Bug in SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID

2002-06-04 Thread Ross Vandegrift
The included false positive came in to a co-worker's mailbox today: I don't see how the Subject contains anything remotely like a unique ID code. Is this right? Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from SpoolDir by HAL (Mercury 1.48); 4 Jun 02 13:51:51 -0500 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECT

[SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread M. Brownsworth
Suppose a recipient wanted a message that had been marked as spam by mistake, intercepted, and archived. Is there a way to deliver this specific message to the recipient, preventing it from being intercepted again? It would involve circumventing spamd's scanning this message so that it can b

Re: [SAtalk] Forged yahoo.com in recieved

2002-06-04 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 the voices made Harry Putnam write: > I tried a defaut setup first though and lots of stuff was coming thru > that shouldn't. I've got it at 4.5, which along with AWL removes 99% of SPAM with no false positives (I used to just /dev/null along with autoreplies, but now I've be

Re: [SAtalk] Forged yahoo.com in recieved

2002-06-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Bart Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> describe FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD Forged yahoo.com 'Received:' header found >> >> Comes no nearer to making it clear what is really happening. > > Hrm. This was reported once before, and I thought the description had > been updated then. Sorry, I should

Re: [SAtalk] Forged yahoo.com in recieved

2002-06-04 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Harry Putnam wrote: > Thanks, I guess it makes sense, but I have to say that reading the > description: > describe FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD Forged yahoo.com 'Received:' header found > > Comes no nearer to making it clear what is really happening. Hrm. This was reported once befo

Re: [SAtalk] Forged yahoo.com in recieved

2002-06-04 Thread David T-G
Harry, et al -- ...and then Harry Putnam said... % % Bart Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: % % > On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Harry Putnam wrote: % > ... % >> FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD version=2.20 % >> % >> Yet a grep of the received headers reveal no instance of yahoo. % > % > I'll answer since this ha

Re: [SAtalk] Debug output

2002-06-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Duncan Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> Going to the debug output, how can I find the output that pertains to >> that message? No date no msgid. >> I don't see why its being overlooked either. Its not a restart >> problem though. But can't find debug info to help out. >> > > Fi

Re: [SAtalk] Forged yahoo.com in recieved

2002-06-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Bart Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> This line appears in mail: >> X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=2.2 required=2.0 tests=Repeat_Any_Allcap,\ >> FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD version=2.20 >> >> Yet a grep of the received headers reveal no instance of yahoo. > >

RE: [SAtalk] enable / disable setting ...

2002-06-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Just found this looking through GeoCrawler: = This has come up before a few times (not quite an FAQ though). The concensus at the end of the discussion ends up being that deciding whether or not to process mail through SA is best handled upstream of SA -- why invoke

Re: [SAtalk] Debug output

2002-06-04 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 09:34:39AM -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > Can we make Debug output more usefull? > > Maybe adding a date prefix and something to crossreference what > message is being read? A msgid would be very handy. > > Its kind of useless as it stands unless you are doing only one > m

[SAtalk] Debug output

2002-06-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Can we make Debug output more usefull? Maybe adding a date prefix and something to crossreference what message is being read? A msgid would be very handy. Its kind of useless as it stands unless you are doing only one message. An example might be that I see a message where FROM_MALFORMED was g

[SAtalk] how to disable spamassassin ... ?

2002-06-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
How hard would it be to change it so that if required_hits == 0, then it skips all checks and just passes through the message with no changes as !is_spam? Essentially, i want to install this on several servers, one of which has >5k users ... I want to install it so that, by default, it short-cir

[SAtalk] CS: IBM säljer hårddiskverksamheten till Hitachi/Det lönar sig att satsa på personalen (fwd)

2002-06-04 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
Looks like IT-news in swedish qualifies as part porn whenever something in the news ends (end in swedish == slut). =D /Tony -- Forwarded message -- From: Computer Sweden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:01:41 +0200

Re: [SAtalk] Forged yahoo.com in recieved

2002-06-04 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Harry Putnam wrote: > This line appears in mail: > X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=2.2 required=2.0 tests=Repeat_Any_Allcap,\ > FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD version=2.20 > > Yet a grep of the received headers reveal no instance of yahoo. I'll answer since this has come up before and I sugge

[SAtalk] Forged yahoo.com in recieved

2002-06-04 Thread Harry Putnam
This line appears in mail: X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=2.2 required=2.0 tests=Repeat_Any_Allcap,\ FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD version=2.20 Yet a grep of the received headers reveal no instance of yahoo. It is from a yahoo.com user, but the message mentiones rec'd, not from. __

Re: [SAtalk] Missing TextCat.pm in current CVS

2002-06-04 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 09:33:13AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When trying to compile the current CVS, It was missing a library called > TextCat.pm. I cannot seem to locate a copy of this anywhere. > Try doing a cvs update. Or if you downloaded of the web site, try downloading again. (I.

[SAtalk] Missing TextCat.pm in current CVS

2002-06-04 Thread Dan . Smart
When trying to compile the current CVS, It was missing a library called TextCat.pm. I cannot seem to locate a copy of this anywhere. <> ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -

Re: [SAtalk] What is this?

2002-06-04 Thread Doug Crompton
I take it this is corrected in CVS. Is it just a typo? Can I just correct it? Take the source for this module from CVS? Doug On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Bryan Hoover wrote: > Doug Crompton wrote: > > > SA has been running great here for 2 months. I am very happy with it's > > > > performance. In the

[SAtalk] Spamassassin Module for Horde (http://www.horde.org) ...

2002-06-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Is now available, for those that are using both ... *Very* base functionality is in there right now, which is limited to just changing the required_hits value, but that was just to get it into the repository ... we've already got a load of changes that should be committed later on tonight ... W

[SAtalk] GLOBAL prefs in SQL database

2002-06-04 Thread Oliver Paulzen
Hi SA-users, I figured that spamd queries for "username='$user' or username='GLOBAL'" while retrieving the user-preferences from a SQL database. Do the entries need to have a special sorting in order to have global settings overridden by user entries? During a test I noticed that the GLOBAL setti

Re: freespeech Re: *****SPAM***** [SAtalk] Re: Spamassassin-talkdigest, Vol 1 #456 - 14 msgs

2002-06-04 Thread Harry Putnam
"Michael Moncur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm confused. Your message has spamassassin-talk in the To: field. So does > this one. In my scan through the last 24 hours worth of messages to SAtalk > and SAdev, 100% of them had the list's address in either the To: or Cc: > field. No, I'm confus