Re: [sage-devel] Sage installation error @ gnutls-2.2.1.p5

2011-10-18 Thread Francois Bissey
> Hi, > I am using Pardus 2011 and trying to build sage on it with gcc 4.5.3. > It aborts installation due to 12 errors while installing =20 > gnutls-2.2.1.p5. Some part of the log is in Turkish, all they say is > something like "exiting from directory " And yamak is the > user's name. > > I hope

[sage-devel] linux 3.0 and python breakage fun

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi all, this is not just Lion that is causing trouble. I opened #11619 about problem with building some python bits under a linux-3.0 kernel. Some bits of the building system looks at the major version number of linux to determine that it needs to build stuff in plat-linux2. On linux-3.0 it look

Re: [sage-devel] Re: 4.7.2.alpha0?

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:44:01 kcrisman wrote: > On Jul 29, 4:20 pm, Volker Braun wrote: > > On Friday, July 29, 2011 9:16:10 PM UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: > > > More seriously, it would be helpful to know "how official" such non- > > > releases are. > > > > Not at all official. > > Right, but it woul

Re: [sage-devel] Re: List condensation

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 02:35:46 Simon King wrote: > > It is a > > bit of pity. sage-on-gentoo generates a bit of traffic on the > > gentoo-science mailing list and the occasional thread here. > > sage-on-gentoo? Is that yet another list I haven't been aware of? Just for clarification I work on portin

Re: [sage-devel] Re: test driving maxima-5.25.0

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 05:49:41 kcrisman wrote: > Thanks for the detailed analysis, Francois! The 'official' > announcement hadn't been made on their list or the main Maxima page > yet, just that it had been tagged, so I didn't mention it yet - but > they have everything up on their download site, gr

Re: [sage-devel] twisted.web2 is gone from twisted 11.0? can we still upgrade

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:48:02 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > A couple of days ago we had a hard to explain crash of sagenb (flask) > webapp when it was hammered by 70 undergrads simultaneously during our lab. > We don't rule out that it could be a twisted bug. Twisted has meanwhile > advanced to version 1

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SAGE_ATLAS_LIB question

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 06:05:22 Volker Braun wrote: > Looks like intel uses a completely different naming scheme instead > of liblapack.so / libcblas.so / libf77blas.so. Francois' suggestion of > renaming the intel MKL libraries to something standard is a good one, though > it might not work. Since in

Re: [sage-devel] Re: linux 3.0 and python breakage fun

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Oct 30, 10:12 am, Francois Bissey > > wrote: > > There is also the fact that a number of packages check: > > sys.platform == 'linux2' > > One quick data point: on FC 15 they are shipping linux 3.* kernels > with a fake 2.* version number exactly fo

Re: [sage-devel] Re: linux 3.0 and python breakage fun

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 30 Okt., 21:13, Nils Bruin wrote: > > On Oct 30, 10:12 am, Francois Bissey > > > > wrote: > > > There is also the fact that a number of packages check: > > > sys.platform == 'linux2' > > > > One quick data point: on FC 15 th

[sage-devel] python-2.7 status

2011-10-30 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi all, After the merging of #10903 and #11339 I cannot see any doctest crashing anymore because of singular. There are only about a handfull of files in which we have failling doctests from python-2.7. Here they are: sage -t -long -force_lib "devel/sage- main/sage/rings/padics/padic_capped_rel

Re: [sage-devel] Re: or sage-5.0? (Re: [sage-release] Next release: sage-4.7.3 or sage-4.8?)

2011-11-05 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Nov 5, 2011, at 18:02 , Burcin Erocal wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 17:23:38 -0700 (PDT) > > > > leif wrote: > >> On 5 Nov., 21:24, "Justin C. Walker" wrote: > >>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 12:16 , Julien Puydt wrote: > Le 05/11/2011 17:42, William Stein a écrit : > > What do you base thi

Re: [sage-devel] Feedback of update to sagemath 4.7.2 Mandriva rpm package

2011-11-08 Thread Francois Bissey
> Em 8 de novembro de 2011 04:20, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade > > escreveu: > > 2011/11/7 Francois Bissey : > >> Hi Paulo, > >> > >> You are using python-2.7 right? In #9958 I have a list of patches > >> as long as my arm to deal wi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: or sage-5.0? (Re: [sage-release] Next release: sage-4.7.3 or sage-4.8?)

2011-11-08 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 11/08/11 13:37, William Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >> (I use Sage on Gentoo) > >> > >> For maintainers, the argument is that a package manager should handle > >> dependencies for you. It's easier to write the dependencies down in a > >> text f

Re: [sage-devel] Re: or sage-5.0? (Re: [sage-release] Next release: sage-4.7.3 or sage-4.8?)

2011-11-08 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 11/08/11 15:41, Francois Bissey wrote: > > And by the way thanks for using sage-on-gentoo, we get tired but a pat > > on the back helps a lot. > > Sure! You guys do a great job. I use Sage on three Gentoo machines and > you've saved me countless hours ove

Re: [sage-devel] Feedback of update to sagemath 4.7.2 Mandriva rpm package

2011-11-08 Thread Francois Bissey
> 2011/11/8 Francois Bissey : > > [...] > > > I don't get any of that. I suspect there may be an issue with gmp/mpir. > > But I have really no clue about the glibc problem, you are using > > mpmath-0.17 I expect. > > Yes, mpmath-0.17. > >

Re: [sage-devel] Feedback of update to sagemath 4.7.2 Mandriva rpm package

2011-11-09 Thread Francois Bissey
> Em 9 de novembro de 2011 00:29, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade > > escreveu: > > 2011/11/8 Francois Bissey : > >>> 2011/11/8 Francois Bissey : > >>> > >>> [...] > >>> > >>> > I don't get any of that. I suspe

Re: [sage-devel] Feedback of update to sagemath 4.7.2 Mandriva rpm package

2011-11-09 Thread Francois Bissey
> 2011/11/9 Francois Bissey : > > Maybe setting MPMATH_NOGMPY is not enough to prevent it to > call to gmpy "init" function that calls mp_set_memory_functions. > > I will try to debug a bit further, in the worst case, I can resubmit a > sagemath package with

Re: [sage-devel] Feedback of update to sagemath 4.7.2 Mandriva rpm package

2011-11-09 Thread Francois Bissey
> rsync://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/MandrivaLinux/devel/co > oker/x86_64/media/contrib/release/python-gmpy-1.14-1mdv2011.0.x86_64.rpm > instalando python-gmpy-1.14-1mdv2011.0.x86_64.rpm a partir de > /var/cache/urpmi/rpms > Preparando... Interesting mix of French and Brazilian

Re: [sage-devel] Sage compilation failure on CentOS 5.7

2011-11-10 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Dan Drake wrote: > > On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 at 09:16PM -0500, Daniel Thau wrote: > > > Yeah, I considered that possibility. The md5sum for both the > > > > pre-compiled > > > > > version I tried and the source both matched what they were expected > > > too. > > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: or sage-5.0? (Re: [sage-release] Next release: sage-4.7.3 or sage-4.8?)

2011-11-10 Thread Francois Bissey
> I also use sage-on-gentoo. I find it a very good way to just use sage. > > But i don't only use sage, i also develop it: when there is a feature > i miss, i implement it (if i have the knowledge and time to do so). > The easyest way to do so is to have sage installed in a directory in > the "sta

Re: [sage-devel] Debian Version?

2011-11-11 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:59 PM, frosty wrote: > > I have just discovered Sage & want to know if there are any folks here > > working on making a Debian version that would work without having to > > compile all the parts. i.e. use the needed files, apps & libraries > > that are already packaged

Re: [sage-devel] Error in mpir while building sage-4.7.2

2011-11-12 Thread Francois Bissey
> Hello, > > I got an error while compiling sage-4.7.2 on my computer (Intel core 2 > Duo T8100) at the very begining. I should mention that on the same > computer sage-4.7.1 compiles. Does anybody encounter such a problem or > have a solution ? > > $ uname -a > Linux jahe 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP F

[sage-devel] when are sage-sage.py and sage-sagex called

2011-11-12 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi, I spotted those two files and I am wondering what they are used for. sage-sage.py looks like a rewrite of sage-sage in python, is it ever called from anywhere or is it a work in progress of some kind? sage-sagex is it just a comand to execute a sage script? If so can't you do that by calling

Re: [sage-devel] Re: when are sage-sage.py and sage-sagex called

2011-11-12 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:21:07 PM UTC-8, François wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I spotted those two files and I am wondering what they are > > used for. > > sage-sage.py looks like a rewrite of sage-sage in python, is it ever > > called > > from anywhere or is it a work in progress of some kind

Re: [sage-devel] Re: why unpack the source packages?

2011-11-15 Thread Francois Bissey
> The only real advantages of keeping the upstream sources packaged is > that (1) you can know what's in them, check md5sums, etc., and (2) > there's less chance of introducing hard-to-find errors by fat- > fingering a particular unpacked source file. But I'm happy to unpack, > too. > Hi, In my

[sage-devel] numpy-1.6.x and sage types

2011-11-28 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi, I have been looking at upgrading numpy again in #11334 Everything seem to build fine but the doctest failures reveal some possibly deep problems. In several tests a numpy array is prepared with numpy.linspace (there are at least two in functions/other.py). Then a function is appled to the nu

Re: [sage-devel] Disallowing 4.x -> 5.x upgrades

2011-12-02 Thread Francois Bissey
> I would like to propose that we *disallow* upgrading from any 4.x > version of Sage to any 5.x version. > > This means that we can merge various upgrade-breaking patches in > sage-5.0 (I foresee this to be the release after sage-4.8). Of course, > we have to make an effort to make upgrades from

[sage-devel] we need some combinatronics help to complete the move to python 2.7

2011-12-07 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi all, Over here in ticket #9958 we are almost done with the big move to python 2.7.2. However we have some issues that we don't know how to resolve with 2 doctests from sage/combinat. Some of the results appear to vary usually between different 32bit systems but sometimes also between 64bit sy

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Unofficial release sage-5.0.prealpha0

2012-01-02 Thread Francois Bissey
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:08:52 cch wrote: > Make Sage with matplotlib by > export SAGE_MATPLOTLIB_GUI='yes' > > and it stops with the error: > ... > Tkinter (IndexError: list index out of range) > ... > > where tcltk-8.5.11 used in 64bit Slackware Linux. > > To solve this problem, I remove TCLTK a

Re: [sage-devel] Building a deb for sage on Debian/Ubuntu

2012-02-25 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:02:46 Jan Groenewald wrote: > Hi > > I am looking for a Debian or Ubuntu packaging mentor. > > I am not an experienced debian packager, I am learning everything from > scratch. > But I am an experienced system administrator. > > I am hoping to find a mentor familiar with b

Re: [sage-devel] tachyon -- are we building it incorrectly or?

2012-03-02 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 11:17:55 William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > I thought that if I rendered a 3d scene using viewer='tachyon', then > it would use the multiple cores of my computer to render the scene > more quickly. However, I was just rendering a complicated 3d scene > for my class (that takes abo

Re: [sage-devel] tachyon -- are we building it incorrectly or?

2012-03-02 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:43:46 William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Francois Bissey > > wrote: > > On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 11:17:55 William Stein wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I thought that if I rendered a 3d scene using viewer='tachyon

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Segregating development from production

2012-03-09 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 17:12:30 Keshav Kini wrote: > Jeroen Demeyer writes: > > On 2012-03-09 06:18, Keshav Kini wrote: > >> Something else: Why do we even have local/ ? Why not just have bin/, > >> lib/, etc. in the root directory? > > > > I like local/. It makes the top-level directory a lot clea

Re: [sage-devel] Re: python3

2012-03-10 Thread Francois Bissey
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 08:23:58 William Stein wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Keshav Kini wrote: > > William Stein writes: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Have you ever wondered how difficult it might be to switch Sage from > >> Python 2.7 to Python 3.x? Some students in my course made a webpage > >>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Adding GCC and MPC as standard packages

2012-03-13 Thread Francois Bissey
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:44:03 P Purkayastha wrote: On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:54:32 AM UTC+8, François wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:18:41 P Purkayastha wrote: > On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:41:35 PM UTC+8, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > If you do this, you certainly should not restrict yourself t

Re: [sage-devel] the directory SAGE_ROOT/ipython/

2012-03-20 Thread Francois Bissey
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:07:33 John H Palmieri wrote: > Does anyone use the files in the directory SAGE_ROOT/ipython? Would you > object if they were moved elsewhere in the Sage distribution, and if some > of the files were modified or deleted? (In particular, ipythonrc-scipy > might not be long for

Re: [sage-devel] Sage 4.8 fails to build on ArchLinux x64

2012-04-13 Thread Francois Bissey
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:24:21 oNNy wrote: > Hello, I tried to compile Sage Mathematics 4.8 using the ArchLinux AUR > buildscript from here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=56737 > > The error occurs while installing the package linbox, see the log in the > attachment. I hope this is fixab

RE: [sage-devel] Re: Goto Blas.

2010-12-07 Thread Francois Bissey
-Original Message- From: sage-devel@googlegroups.com on behalf of Jason Grout Sent: Wed 12/8/2010 2:19 AM To: sage-devel@googlegroups.com Subject: [sage-devel] Re: Goto Blas. On 12/7/10 12:05 AM, Thierry Dumont wrote: > The Goto Blas are now under BSD license. > > http://www.tacc.utexas.e

RE: [sage-devel] Re: Goto Blas.

2010-12-07 Thread Francois Bissey
Seems like I didn't dig deep enough. So it isn't actively developed by the TACC anymore, it is given to the community to maintain and take over development. It only provides f77blas. I guess it would be possible to create a cblas interface using f2c but it is not really something anyone would wan

RE: [sage-devel] Re: Goto Blas.

2010-12-09 Thread Francois Bissey
-Original Message- From: sage-devel@googlegroups.com on behalf of Bill Hart Sent: Fri 12/10/2010 2:21 PM To: sage-devel Subject: [sage-devel] Re: Goto Blas. So I don't know what is considered a fast time to build BLAS, but on my machine it was straightforward. I just typed make and it det

RE: [sage-devel] Re: Should Sage include its own gcc ? It would add <= 1.6 MB to the Sage tarball.

2010-12-16 Thread Francois Bissey
-Original Message- From: sage-devel@googlegroups.com on behalf of Volker Braun Sent: Fri 12/17/2010 1:11 AM To: sage-devel@googlegroups.com Subject: [sage-devel] Re: Should Sage include its own gcc ? It would add <= 1.6 MB to the Sage tarball. Gentoo-prefix uses rpath instead of the LD_L

RE: [sage-devel] Re: Should Sage include its own gcc ? It would add <= 1.6 MB to the Sage tarball.

2010-12-16 Thread Francois Bissey
-Original Message- From: sage-devel@googlegroups.com on behalf of Georg S. Weber Sent: Fri 12/17/2010 11:30 AM To: sage-devel Subject: [sage-devel] Re: Should Sage include its own gcc ? It would add <= 1.6 MB to the Sage tarball. P.S.: Francois, I thought you were "on leave" moving to a

RE: [sage-devel] Combine ATLAS and LAPACK?

2010-12-19 Thread Francois Bissey
-Original Message- From: sage-devel@googlegroups.com on behalf of Volker Braun Sent: Sun 12/19/2010 01:44 To: sage-devel@googlegroups.com Subject: [sage-devel] Combine ATLAS and LAPACK? The newest development version atlas-3.9.32 now wants to build lapack itself and the old --with-netlib

Re: [sage-devel] Sage does (did?) build with an arm processor, but the tests don't pass

2011-02-05 Thread Francois Bissey
> Hi, > > I'm the guy who reported and worked on : > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10285 > > For reference, the problem was that I couldn't get sage 4.6.0 to build > on my ARM-based netbook. I fought hard (and well!), and finally got sage > up -- that required a few changes here and t

Re: [sage-devel] Sage does (did?) build with an arm processor, but the tests don't pass

2011-02-05 Thread Francois Bissey
> Le 05/02/2011 11:44, Francois Bissey a écrit : > > So gamma could be called from C, Cython, possibly mpmath, pynac or > > maxima. I guess you could tests the results calling from mpmath or > > maxima. I am guessing that SR(10.0r).gamma() will end up being a call to > &

Re: [sage-devel] Sage does (did?) build with an arm processor, but the tests don't pass

2011-02-05 Thread Francois Bissey
> Le 05/02/2011 20:08, Francois Bissey a écrit : > > > Le 05/02/2011 11:44, Francois Bissey a écrit : > > > > So gamma could be called from C, Cython, possibly mpmath, pynac or > > > > maxima. I guess you could tests the results calling from mpmath or &g

[sage-devel] maxima's version is tested twice in sage/interfaces/maxima.py

2011-02-08 Thread Francois Bissey
Once should be enough. Found it because I am running maxima-5.23.2 on my iMac, this is with 4.6.2.alpha4: age -t -force_lib "devel/sage-main/sage/interfaces/maxima.py" ** File "/Users/frb15/Desktop/Gentoo/usr/share/sage/devel/sage-

Re: [sage-devel] maxima's version is tested twice in sage/interfaces/maxima.py

2011-02-08 Thread Francois Bissey
> Once should be enough. Found it because I am running maxima-5.23.2 > on my iMac, this is with 4.6.2.alpha4: > age -t -force_lib "devel/sage-main/sage/interfaces/maxima.py" > ** > File "/Users/frb15/Desktop/Gentoo/usr/share/sage/d

Re: [sage-devel] Singular in 4.6.2.alpha4 doesn't build on Ubuntu 11.04 alpha 2

2011-02-10 Thread Francois Bissey
> I thought I would try to see if Sage builds in the upcoming version of > Ubuntu, which is still early in the development stages but I think the > compilers and other basic system stuff are stable. But there's some kind > of linker error: > > ../kernel/libkernel.a(mod_raw.o): In function `dynl_op

Re: [sage-devel] Upgrade of ECL .spkg to latest upstream.

2011-02-10 Thread Francois Bissey
> I've updated ECL to the latest upstream release > > http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/patches/ecl-11.1.1.spkg > > Can people test this package, then run the doctests. Note the changes are > not committed yet, but the are a note in SPKG.txt, and of course the > source code has changed

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upgrade of ECL .spkg to latest upstream.

2011-02-10 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 10 February 2011 20:32, kcrisman wrote: > > I get essentially (probably exactly) the same errors on OS X 10.4 > > PPC.If anyone else tries this, don't forget you have to rebuild (./ > > sage -f maxima) Maxima after building the new ECL. > > > > Francois' idea is great. I mentioned the a

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upgrade of ECL .spkg to latest upstream.

2011-02-10 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 10 February 2011 20:59, Francois Bissey > > wrote: > > Reading the message linked by Karl it seems easy to patch for this > > behavior. Of course there could be other problems elsewhere with a > > similar origin. I'd say we should go ahead with a patch in

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upgrade of ECL .spkg to latest upstream.

2011-02-10 Thread Francois Bissey
> > On 10 February 2011 20:59, Francois Bissey > > > > It appears this was a bug created by ECL which the ECL developer has > > acknowledged > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/ecls-list@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00671.html > > > > and is fixed in

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Upgrade of ECL .spkg to latest upstream.

2011-02-12 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 02/11/11 12:46 AM, Francois Bissey wrote: > > Can you post a link to your .spkg since you have created one. > > I assume you are using 'patch' rather than 'cp' to copy the files over, > since 'patch' has been added to Sage. > > I gue

[sage-devel] files not under hg control in sage-4.6.2.alpha4.spkg

2011-02-13 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi all, Just want to check something that I think is weird. I was looking at ticket #10764 and basically fixing the deprecated warnings in the following files: sage/combinat/combinat_cython.pyx sage/rings/polynomial/polynomial_real_mpfr_dense.pyx sage/ext/interpreters/wrapper_cdf.pxd sage/ext/inte

Re: [sage-devel] cddlib fails to build if autoconf is not installed.

2011-02-21 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 2011-02-21 02:19, David Kirkby wrote: > > /export/home/drkirkby/sage-4.6.2.rc0/spkg/build/cddlib-094f.p8/src/missin > > g --run automake-1.11 --gnu > > sh: line 1: autoconf: not found > > automake-1.11: autoconf failed with exit status: 127 > > make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1 > > Error buildin

Re: [sage-devel] cddlib fails to build if autoconf is not installed.

2011-02-21 Thread Francois Bissey
> > On 2011-02-21 02:19, David Kirkby wrote: > > > /export/home/drkirkby/sage-4.6.2.rc0/spkg/build/cddlib-094f.p8/src/miss > > > in g --run automake-1.11 --gnu > > > sh: line 1: autoconf: not found > > > automake-1.11: autoconf failed with exit status: 127 > > > make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1 > >

Re: [sage-devel] sqlachemy

2011-02-26 Thread Francois Bissey
> Is SQLAlchemy actually used in Sage at all? We distribute an old > version (0.5.8) as a standard spkg. However, I can't seem to find where > it is being used: > > ~/sage/devel/sage/sage% grep -ri "sqlalchemy" * > databases/database.py:#- wrap sqlalchemy > > So apparently it isn't imported

Re: [sage-devel] mpmath and plot incompatibility

2011-02-28 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 at 01:26PM -0800, jtyard wrote: > > I'm running sage 4.6.1 and cannot use plot after loading mpmath. > > Namely, running > > > > > from mpmath import * > > > plot(lambda t: sin(2*pi*t), [1, 4]) > > > > produces no output in the notebook. I'm loading mpmath because I need >

Re: [sage-devel] Adding support for non-gnu compilers

2011-03-04 Thread Francois Bissey
> Although Sage builds fully and passes all doctest on 32-bit Solaris > with gcc, there are a couple of issues I'm aware of where gcc is not > working as well as I'd like. > > * R will not build 64-bit on OpenSolaris with gcc > * The optional OpenMPI will not build with gcc on Solaris, but will >

Re: [sage-devel] How to tell if a FLOSS project is doomed to FAIL

2011-03-09 Thread Francois Bissey
> This may be of interest > > https://www.theopensourceway.org/wiki/How_to_tell_if_a_FLOSS_project_is_doo > med_to_FAIL > > and should explain why sage is not included and/or built from > sources in any major distro. Well, I make rpms for Mandriva, > and there is the gentoo port... > My turn?

Re: [sage-devel] How to tell if a FLOSS project is doomed to FAIL

2011-03-10 Thread Francois Bissey
> > What would be nice: better recognition that we are doing some > > hard work that may an impact on the quality of sage in the long term > > much like portability work. At present time you can use a gentoo > > prefix to build sage on other linuxes and OS X, windows is the next > > frontier (but t

Re: [sage-devel] [ARM] Failed tests for accuracy reasons

2011-03-14 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 14 March 2011 16:40, Julien PUYDT wrote: > > Le 14/03/2011 14:12, David Kirkby a écrit : > > > > The solution of finding a "good" integer is fragile : it will break > > anytime wind will change direction. > > I tend to agree. > > > Actually, the best solution is the one I gave : handle fuz

[sage-devel] Removal of scipy_sandbox

2011-03-15 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi, I have created a ticket (trac #10936) to remove scipy_sandox from sage. Back in the day of trac #1430 it contained experimental parts waiting to be integrated in scipy. Time has passed and now scipy_sandbox has been discontinued for a while upstream and one part it provided is now in scipy pr

[sage-devel] trac server running out of space again?

2011-03-15 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi, I am not able to look for tickets on trac. I am getting: Report execution failed: could not write block 1 of temporary file: No space left on device HINT: Perhaps out of disk space? Francois This email may be confidential and subject to legal privilege, it may not reflect the views of the U

Re: [sage-devel] [ARM] Failed tests for accuracy reasons

2011-03-15 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 14 March 2011 16:40, Julien PUYDT wrote: > > Le 14/03/2011 14:12, David Kirkby a écrit : > >> Perhaps you can find value of n, such that gamma(n) gives an exact > >> integer result. If that happens on other CPUs too, then I suggest the > >> argument to the doctest is changed. > > > > The sol

Re: [sage-devel] NTL upgrade

2011-03-17 Thread Francois Bissey
> We should resurrect http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/5731 : > Update NTL to 5.5.2 release (latest upstream). > > It has been sitting around for 2 years. See the ticket for the bugs > which have been fixed. > > Sage Days 29? > Why not. sage-on-gentoo has been using it for a long time

Re: [sage-devel] Re: NTL upgrade

2011-03-17 Thread Francois Bissey
> Alas the info on the ticket is out-of-date. > > Whilst GMP 4.3.0 did implement extended GCD differently, this was > fixed in a later release (likewise for MPIR), specifically GMP 4.3.2 > and GMP 5.0.0. I don't know if recent NTL takes these later changes > into account. > Since I have installs

Re: [sage-devel] Re: http://flask.sagenb.org -- test it!!!

2011-03-26 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 3/26/11 10:03 AM, Jonathan wrote: > > This problem with Jmol appears to be multifaceted. > > 1) The path to Jmol looks strange, although the error messages do > > appear to come from Jmol. > > 2) It looks like something is being added to the top of the script > > file for Jmol and confusing it

Re: [sage-devel] lcalc code quality

2011-03-31 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 03/31/11 05:22 PM, Volker Braun wrote: > >As Dave Kirby remarked, > > > > right now it compiles on a couple of gcc releases and essentially no > > other compiler. And thats hardly a surprise if you look at the code. At > > the very least the endless compiler warnings need to be looked at / > >

Re: [sage-devel] lcalc code quality

2011-04-01 Thread Francois Bissey
An idea that may be on the constructive side. John could you convince/help Micheal to upload his current code in a hg repo on google code like you did with eclib? Rather than whining we could contribute and take a snapshot when it is satisfactory. Francois This email may be confidential and subje

Re: [sage-devel] Doctest failure with sage/plot/plot3d/parametric_surface.pyx on OpenSolaris 64-bit

2011-04-02 Thread Francois Bissey
> With a slightly hacked version of 4.7.alpha3, I get the following doctest > failures: > > ** > File > "/export/home/drkirkby/try/sage-4.7.alpha2/devel/sage/sage/plot/plot3d/para > metric_surface.pyx", line 180: > sage: s[:2

Re: [sage-devel] has Apple effectively forked gcc?

2011-04-05 Thread Francois Bissey
> In XCode 4.0.1, the default C compiler (cc) is > gcc version 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2335.9) > (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_Level_Virtual_Machine) > > whereas it also has gcc: > gcc version 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3) > > I wonder what should be the

Re: [sage-devel] Please test new version of sqlite

2011-04-06 Thread Francois Bissey
> I've placed here an updated package with the latest version of sqlite, > as the one we have in Sage is 2-3 years old. > > http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/patches/sqlite-3.7.5.spkg > > I've built Sage from scratch using this, and found all doctests > passed. But I'd be interested ho

[sage-devel] sage and python 2.7: migration strategies?

2011-04-07 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi all, Following an initial post by Paulo from mandriva I started to look at using sage with python-2.7 (2.7.1 in fact). The news is two fold: 1) sage seems to work ok. It starts. 2) a good deal of the test suite is shot. As a consequence of 2 it is difficult to work out which parts need to be

Re: [sage-devel] sage and python 2.7: migration strategies?

2011-04-08 Thread Francois Bissey
> Hi François, > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 02:08:57PM +1200, Francois Bissey wrote: > > Following an initial post by Paulo from mandriva I started > > to look at using sage with python-2.7 (2.7.1 in fact). > > The news is two fold: > > 1) sage seems to work

Re: [sage-devel] Please check a new singular package with gcc 4.6.0

2011-04-09 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 04/ 9/11 11:05 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I've found after installing the following 3 files > > http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/patches/singular-3-1-1-4.p5.sp > kg http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/dreyer/spkg/polybori-0.7.0.p2.spkg > http://www.stp.dias.ie/~vbraun/Sage/spk

Re: [sage-devel] sage and python 2.7: migration strategies?

2011-04-09 Thread Francois Bissey
Thanks to Nicolas there is a lot of progress there. Initial test by my friend Steve has shown that test failures is way down and the problems with assertEqual seems to be mostly solved. Next we have a number of warning messages that have changed and the number of significant figures displayed by

Re: [sage-devel] sage and python 2.7: migration strategies?

2011-04-09 Thread Francois Bissey
It turns out that warnings are not visible to the end users anymore. This is according to the python documentation: http://docs.python.org/library/warnings.html Section 27.6.5 to be precise. Actually more explicit in http://docs.python.org/using/cmdline.html : Starting from Python 2.7, DeprecationW

Re: [sage-devel] sage-4.7.alpha5: Error building ecl

2011-04-12 Thread Francois Bissey
> Hi! > > It was recommended to me by Jeroen to use sage-4.7.alpha5 for rebasing > a patch of mine. > > AFAIK, sage-4.7.alpha5 is not officially released yet, but I hope it > is OK to report here that ecl fails to build. The log can be found at > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/SimonKing/bug

[sage-devel] Re: sage & gentoo prefix

2011-04-12 Thread Francois Bissey
> Having a working Gentoo-prefix that one could use if the host system's > toolchain is broken already would be very interesting. > > But when I played around with it I ran into some library problems. For > example, gmp/mpir would be installed twice (host and gentoo prefix), > potentially mutually

[sage-devel] Re: sage & gentoo prefix

2011-04-12 Thread Francois Bissey
> Hi Francois, > > Aside from that it is not as developer friendly as vanilla sage. You > > cannot apply a patch and do "sage -b". Effectively to apply a patch I > > change the ebuild and do the equivalent of "sage -ba". On the other hand > > upgrade always works :) > > Can't we tell emerge to "k

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.7.alpha5: Error building ecl

2011-04-12 Thread Francois Bissey
> Hi Francois, > > On 12 Apr., 23:35, Francois Bissey > > wrote: > > this is totally #10986 could you give it a review? And possibly pipe on > > the ecl tracker upstream to tell them I am not on drugs :) > > Thank you! I replaced the old spkg with your

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-4.7.alpha5: Error building ecl

2011-04-13 Thread Francois Bissey
> Hi Francois, > > On 13 Apr., 08:35, Francois Bissey > > wrote: > > > I read athttp://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357319that the bug > > > is fixed upstream (unless I misunderstood), so, I guess it won't be > > > needed to tell them you are

Re: [sage-devel] Re: spam trac tickets: 11171 and others

2011-04-13 Thread Francois Bissey
> Hi kcrisman, > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:27 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > We need to implement something, stat. #11191 and #11192 (both within > > the last hour) are spam. > > Solution: Remove the current captcha plugin. It's trivially broken > with a human spammer creating spam accounts. Have a

[sage-devel] progress on sage on python-2.7

2011-04-14 Thread Francois Bissey
After a small number of patch (#11156 from Nicolas M. Thiery, and 2 in #9958, one of which is from my friend Steve Trogdon) we have a clear view of what needs to be fixed. Test done on 4.7.alpha4 + #7377 and #9969 Aside from the chatter due to change of format and messages here is what is interest

[sage-devel] p_Delete in libsingular

2011-04-19 Thread Francois Bissey
While working on getting sage to work with python-2.7.1 I encountered a segfault in sage which seems to come from libsingular. In fact the backtrace points to line 127 of kernel/ideals.cc in the singular source code: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. id_Delete (h=0x509b078, r=

Re: [sage-devel] Re: progress on sage on python-2.7

2011-04-20 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 06:41:26PM -0700, François wrote: > > > This test reduces to: > > > > > > sage: class CCls(Parent): > > > ... def __eq__(self, other): > > > ... return True > > > sage: x = CCls() > > > sage: x == None > > > True > > > > > > and I

Re: [sage-devel] Re: progress on sage on python-2.7

2011-04-21 Thread Francois Bissey
sage: x = CCls() sage: x == None True So I still get True and not false as he expected. Francois > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 22:04, Francois Bissey < > > francois.bis...@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 06:41:26PM -0700, François wrote: > > &g

Re: [sage-devel] Re: progress on sage on python-2.7

2011-04-21 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:05:58PM +1200, Francois Bissey wrote: > >> Does hitting Enter again not do it? > >> David > > > >No! huu it didn't earlier this afternoon for some reason. > >I had an ipython message. Never mind so

Re: [sage-devel] Re: progress on sage on python-2.7

2011-04-21 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 06:08:08AM +1200, Francois Bissey wrote: > >I'll leave the patch to you! Thanks for taking care of that. > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/11236 > Thanks, building right now. Could you have a look at the two small patches I po

Re: [sage-devel] Re: progress on sage on python-2.7

2011-04-23 Thread Francois Bissey
> > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 06:08:08AM +1200, Francois Bissey wrote: > > >I'll leave the patch to you! Thanks for taking care of that. > > > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/11236 > > Thanks, building right now. Could you have a look at the tw

Re: [sage-devel] p_Delete in libsingular

2011-04-23 Thread Francois Bissey
> While working on getting sage to work with python-2.7.1 I encountered a > segfault in sage which seems to come from libsingular. > In fact the backtrace points to line 127 of kernel/ideals.cc in the > singular source code: > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > id_Delete (h=0x50

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SVD fails on certain Macs

2011-04-25 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Apr 25, 2:56 pm, John H Palmieri wrote: > > I can answer part of this: on Mac OS X, we don't install ATLAS at all, we > > just rely on the system's version. I can't answer the rest of your > > questions. > > Thanks, John. So I wonder if somebody could exercise the Mac system > ATLAS/LAPACK

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SVD fails on certain Macs

2011-04-25 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Apr 25, 4:33 pm, Francois Bissey > > wrote: > > You could build numpy without lapack to check if it is the source of the > > problem. I gave someone instructions on how to do that a while ago. > > But that may have been on sage-release rather than sage-devel. >

[sage-devel] ticket review for more python-2.7 compatbility

2011-04-25 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi all, I have created a ticket (#11244) with fix for deprecation warning in python-2.7. The fix should not harm a sage using python-2.6 but it has to be reviewed. The heart of the problem is that python devs have decided deprecation warnings are of no value to the end user and therefore shouldn

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SVD fails on certain Macs

2011-04-26 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Apr 26, 6:14 am, Francois Bissey: > > Actually do we know what version of > > ATLAS/BLAS/LAPACK is shipped with OSX? > > Here are a few excerpts from the sage install log file > /Applications/sage-4.7.alpha5/install.log > on my mac. > > ATLAS=atlas-3.8.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SVD fails on certain Macs

2011-04-26 Thread Francois Bissey
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2011 2:52:01 PM UTC-7, François wrote: > > > On Apr 26, 6:14 am, Francois Bissey: > > > > Actually do we know what version of > > > > ATLAS/BLAS/LAPACK is shipped with OSX? > > > > > > Here are a few excerpts from

Re: [sage-devel] Re: XCode 4

2011-04-27 Thread Francois Bissey
> On 27 April 2011 21:28, William Stein wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Aly Deines showed me what happened when she installed Xcode 4 then > > built Sage. She build Sage-4.7.rc0 itself, and it compiled fine. > > However, when she ran it, it crashed on startup. The traceback > > > implicates Pynac: > C

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] sage-4.7.rc1 released

2011-05-01 Thread Francois Bissey
Hi Michael, I now think it is in fact a sage bug. Harald schilly had a slightly different version of that a month ago or so (with ecl or ecls in Gentoo speak). The problem is that you are in the sage environment and LD_LIBRARY_PATH set by sage is hiding the system libgd. If you look at the system

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