[sage-devel] Re: anyone with osx 10.4 intel please test this for dvd

2008-01-06 Thread David Roe
It worked for me. David On Jan 6, 2008 1:08 AM, Joshua Kantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello. for the dvd we are including a dmg file. There was some > problems with the initial version of this. I believe the following is > working, > but if anyone else could te

[sage-devel] Re: anyone with osx 10.4 intel please test this for dvd

2008-01-06 Thread David Joyner
I got the error: :the following disk images failed to mount"... Could be a corrupted download? On Jan 6, 2008 1:08 AM, Joshua Kantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello. for the dvd we are including a dmg file. There was some > problems with the initial version of this. I believe the following

[sage-devel] [sage-deve] anyone with osx 10.4 intel please test this for dvd

2008-01-06 Thread David Roe
> > David, can you test the md5sum of the downloaded .dmg file. > > At the terminal > > md5 > > FWIW, I get: > > MD5 (/SandBox/DownLoads/sage-2.9.2-osx10.4-intel-i386-Darwin.dmg) = > 7bdaf64293d8136aa0d59c89b894ca79 > I get the same: MD5 (sage

[sage-devel] Re: First Sage Screencast

2008-01-07 Thread David Joyner
Did you try vlc? On Jan 7, 2008 2:04 AM, TimDaly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm unable to view this using RealPlayer, Quicktime, or mplayer on > XP, OSX, or Linux. None of the sites have the codec available. > Any idea where I can find the codec for one of these tools? > > Tim > > On Jan 7, 1

[sage-devel] Re: sage promotional event ideas

2008-01-07 Thread David Joyner
I'll be able to drive in with a car, carrying mugs, etc. I wonder how many t-shirts are sold by vendors, on average? On Jan 7, 2008 11:50 AM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In thinking about the sage booth at the jmms this morning, it occured > to me that in the future it might be nice t

[sage-devel] Re: implausibly old time stamp in optional package gap_packages-4.4.10_2.spkg

2008-01-10 Thread David Joyner
haracter table library package. In any case, what should I do? Should I inform Thomas? Would, for example, 1. Unpack the spkg, 2. run touch -r * in the top directory (I don't know if this is even legal), 3. repack, 4. repost the spkg solve the problem

[sage-devel] Re: inner product of complex vectors

2008-01-10 Thread David Kohel
r with a class of rings with involution (from which CC, quadratic rings, cyclotomic rings, and a class of CM fields would inherit). -- David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send

[sage-devel] Re: loading integer or float data from file into a matrix

2008-01-10 Thread David Roe
tes a list of substrings that are separated by a given separator, and the default separator is whitespace. See the documentation on RDF to see if you want to use that, or RR or something else. David On Jan 10, 2008 11:42 AM, myFalc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello! > I&#x

[sage-devel] Re: Block matrices?

2008-01-10 Thread David Joyner
I agree with Didier's comments. Judging from emails to the GAP support list (Which also has such a function), a block matrix function will be frequently used. I think it should be well-documented. On 1/10/08, didier deshommes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 9, 2008 3:23 AM, Robert Bradshaw

[sage-devel] Re: DFA package for inclusion

2008-01-10 Thread David Joyner
First, I know essentially 0 about DFAs. However, I noticed that your "well-documented Python library" contained no examples at all and no references to the literature, except for the blurb: """... See "Minimal cover-automata for finite languages" for context on DFCAs, and "A

[sage-devel] Re: SCREMS proposal

2008-01-10 Thread David Harvey
t-quite-right to me, but I can't think of a better way. * "Google source code system.", -- the punctuation here is wrong. I think it should be "Google source code system," said ... Stein bio: * 284 page => 284 pages * the paper on computation of p-adic heights

[sage-devel] Re: Pics from my AMS meeting drive-by

2008-01-11 Thread David Joyner
Thanks Ifti. I posted some of my shots to http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wdj/sagedays/ams2008/images.html On Jan 11, 2008 11:23 AM, Iftikhar Burhanuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > My pics from the annual AMS meeting in San Diego (1/8/8) are available > here: > > http://sa

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.alpha2 released

2008-01-12 Thread David Harvey
Build successful on mac OS 10.4.10, ppc G5. Didn't run doctests due to known issue with combinatorics stuff. david On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:24 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > Hi, > > Sage 10.2.alpha2 is out. The main change is the switch > of python to ucs4. If you don't know w

[sage-devel] Re: hodge number calculator

2008-01-14 Thread David Roe
making a CompleteIntersection class eventually. David On Jan 14, 2008 8:38 AM, D. Benjamin Antieau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To all, > > I've created a sage file to calculate, among other things, the Hodge > numbers of an arbitrary complete intersection. Attached is the .sage fi

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Re: associativity of addition on ell. curves

2008-01-14 Thread David Harvey
(moved over from sage-support...) On Jan 14, 2008, at 10:28 PM, David Harvey wrote: > What would be *really* nice is if we could work directly in the > fraction field of the quotient of R. by the > appropriate ideal. (Does that even make sense? Is the ideal prime?) I > tried to do t

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Re: associativity of addition on ell. curves

2008-01-15 Thread David Harvey
quot; for the coordinates of (P1 + P2) + P3 is the same as the formula for P1 + (P2 + P3). Would this constitute a correct verification of associativity (perhaps modulo problems caused by the point at infinity)? > I tried doing this in Magma some time ago, using something like David >

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Re: associativity of addition on ell. curves

2008-01-15 Thread David Harvey
the curve up to E/L and think of P as a point on E/L. For example P doesn't have any non-trivial galois conjugates any more. To retain these you need to "remember" that the curve is actually defined over K. david --~--~-~--~~~---~--~

[sage-devel] Multiple return values

2008-01-16 Thread David Kohel
There was a thread on multiple return values coming from Magma, since renamed to "Integer points on conics" William pointed out that one can access the multiple return values using nvals: x = magma.XGCD(15, 10) x,y,z = magma.XGCD(15, 10, nvals = 3) The first returns an integer, while the seco

[sage-devel] Sollya

2008-01-16 Thread David Kohel
GPL in France. --David - Forwarded message from Sylvain Chevillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:01:15 +0100 From: Sylvain Chevillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED] lyon.fr> User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070329) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] im.fr, "[EMAIL PR

[sage-devel] Re: Sollya

2008-01-16 Thread David Joyner
for floating point code development. http://sollya.gforge.inria.fr/ I wonder if it could be useful for the NIST special function stuff Dan Lozier was discussing in San Diego at the SAGE booth? 2008/1/16 David Kohel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Here is another open source CAS, which is be

[sage-devel] Re: Packaging SAGE for (re)distribution in RPM form

2008-01-16 Thread David Joyner
On Jan 15, 2008 11:50 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jan 16, 5:23 am, gri6507 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've posted several thread on this topic now - mostly with question. > > But now, with the help of several members in this forum, I finally > > have my first release of

[sage-devel] implicit differentiation and implicit plotting

2008-01-16 Thread David Joyner
tourplot. It might also be possible to plot the solution to the 1st order DE y' = - F_x(x,y)/F_y(x,y). Suggestions? - David Joyner --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send ema

[sage-devel] Re: Doc Day 1 announcement: January 17th, 2008, 9am-5pm PST

2008-01-16 Thread David Roe
Note that I just put up a ticket with patch (1795) that fixes sage-coverage so that it checks cdef'd and cpdef'd functions and classes. David On Jan 16, 2008 12:00 PM, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 January 2008, mabshoff wrote: > >

[sage-devel] Re: Doc Day 1 announcement: January 17th, 2008, 9am-5pm PST

2008-01-16 Thread David Roe
My modification to sage-coverage checks to see that doctests are present in the docstring of a cdef'd function but doesn't check that the function name is there (because it usually won't be). David On Jan 16, 2008 2:24 PM, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

[sage-devel] Re: Doc Day 1 announcement: January 17th, 2008, 9am-5pm PST

2008-01-16 Thread David Roe
functions seem > to be redundant with the doctests exposed functions. The indirect doctests are sometimes reduntant. But sometimes they are things like _add_c_impl, which won't necessarily get doctested elsewhere. David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post

[sage-devel] Re: Doc Day 1 announcement: January 17th, 2008, 9am-5pm PST

2008-01-16 Thread David Roe
With the modifications, our overall coverage is at 33.1%. David On Jan 16, 2008 2:56 PM, mabshoff < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jan 16, 8:51 pm, "David Roe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Of course, it'd be nice if every function had am

[sage-devel] Re: implicit differentiation and implicit plotting

2008-01-16 Thread David Joyner
On Jan 16, 2008 3:11 PM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > David Joyner wrote: > > Hi: > > > > I don't remember this topic coming up before but at some point > > it must be faced since it arises in Calculus 1. AFAIK, SAGE has no routi

[sage-devel] Re: implicit differentiation and implicit plotting

2008-01-16 Thread David Joyner
ff(y(x), x, 1) == (2 - x)/y(x)] It seems sympy has some nice symbolic functionality that is missing in SAGE but this type of example is all I really need. Thanks again. On Jan 16, 2008 2:14 PM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 16, 2008 7:00 PM, David Joyner <[EMA

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-trac] Re: [SAGE] #1485: [with bundle, with negative review] wrapper for invariant_ring and invariant_algebra_reynolds in Singular

2008-01-16 Thread David Joyner
I don't understand what is going on with this patch. I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile creating a new patch based on a different version of SAGE? If so, should I use sage-2.10.alpha* or ...? + On Jan 16, 2008 5:17 PM, SAGE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: typo in tutorial

2008-01-17 Thread David Joyner
tch posted to http://sagetrac.org/sage_trac/ticket/1544 This typo is however still in the docs for sage-2.10.alpha1, so I am confused... On Jan 17, 2008 7:04 AM, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I already corrected this in a patch I sent in a few weeks ago now. > > > >

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: typo in tutorial

2008-01-17 Thread David Joyner
I already corrected this in a patch I sent in a few weeks ago now. On Jan 17, 2008 1:39 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Matthew Moelter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:16:00 -0800 > Subject: typo in tutorial > To: [

[sage-devel] Re: [SAGE] #1485: [with bundle, with negative review] wrapper for invariant_ring and invariant_algebra_reynolds in Singular

2008-01-17 Thread David Joyner
, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jan 17, 2:42 am, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi David, > > > I don't understand what is going on with this patch. I'm wondering if > > it would be worthwhile creating a

[sage-devel] Re: Multiple return values

2008-01-17 Thread David Kohel
could do G = Aut(E1) # or Iso(E1,E1) G.group() G.group_with_isomorphism() A = AbelianGroup(2) A.is_isomorphic(G) A.is_isomorphic_with_isomorphism(G) A.isomorphism(G) Again, this should be a common syntax throughout SAGE. --David As long as there are examples > and documentation this is easy

[sage-devel] Re: infinity

2008-01-17 Thread David Roe
y, but then I'm the one that originally made the design decision, so David On Jan 17, 2008 9:52 AM, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks (especially william + robert + david roe), > > I showed up for Doc Days 1 and started looking at the infi

[sage-devel] infinity

2008-01-17 Thread David Harvey
Hi folks (especially william + robert + david roe), I showed up for Doc Days 1 and started looking at the infinity and extended integer ring stuff. Question: why does the "unsigned infinity ring" not have a zero element, whereas the "(signed) infinity ring" has a zero?

[sage-devel] Re: Multiple return values

2008-01-18 Thread David Kohel
> I will try to take all the above on board as I am implementing it, and > look forward to having you people make constructive criticisms > But David K's suggestion about the set of all iso/automorphisms might > wait until the next round. I (or someone else) can implement

[sage-devel] Re: #1485: [with bundle, with negative review] wrapper for invariant_ring and invariant_algebra_reynolds in Singular

2008-01-18 Thread David Joyner
On Jan 17, 2008 8:15 AM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jan 17, 11:39 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hello, > > > transform.pyx does some maxima stuff, perhaps the patch (or some > > combination with other patches) is leaving maxima in an unstable state? > > I

[sage-devel] Re: Smaller mayavi2 spkg

2008-01-18 Thread David Joyner
On Jan 18, 2008 9:48 AM, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > The following is working on Fedora 7/8: > > > Dependencies for Sage: > > > > > - http://www.wxpython.org wxPython-2.6.x or higher for the UI > > - vtk-5.0.3 > > - setuptools-0.6b > > 1) Install wxPython-2.8.7.1:

[sage-devel] Re: Sympy Plotting

2008-01-18 Thread David Joyner
On Jan 18, 2008 9:45 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 18, 2008 3:40 PM, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2008 9:23 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi F

[sage-devel] Re: sage features/bugs

2008-01-18 Thread David Harvey
On Jan 18, 2008, at 11:32 AM, William Stein wrote: >> Let A be a matrix not over ZZ or QQ: >> >> A.adjoint() >> A.inverse() >> >> are not implemented. > > I don't think they should be. There are already (at least) 3 ways > to do this:

[sage-devel] Re: Sympy Plotting

2008-01-18 Thread David Joyner
On Jan 18, 2008 9:23 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Fabio, > > On Jan 18, 2008 11:51 AM, Fabio Tonti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > I've just been playing around with SymPy a bit more lately, and I found that > > the 3D-Plot implementation is really nic

[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction

2008-01-18 Thread David Joyner
s private e-mail anymore but the > mailinglist > * the URLs are outdated => http://www.sagemath.org > > so this text could also be updated/edited/removed. > > Maybe the frontpage of http://www.sagemath.org would be a nice starting point > for a translation/a new intro?

[sage-devel] Re: sage features/bugs

2008-01-18 Thread David Harvey
error. You only do this when it makes sense. E.g., if A is a > matrix > with integer entries, there is a reasonably natural place in which to > compute the inverse of A, namely matrices over the rationals. To say, > "sorry

[sage-devel] Re: bug in Abelian group invariants()

2008-01-19 Thread David Joyner
e invariants, sorted. In > which case the invariants is listed above are wrong! > > The Sage version of this is all explained in the documentation in file > sage/groups/abelian_gps/abelian_groups.py, attributed to David Joyner > . Please will all the algebraists out there tell me

[sage-devel] Re: German Sage Introduction

2008-01-20 Thread David Joyner
It's at http://wiki.sagemath.org/A_short_introduction_to_SAGE I updated it a bit a few days ago but it could use more editing. On Jan 20, 2008 2:51 PM, Alfredo Portes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2008 2:25 PM, Alfredo Portes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Same can be said for http://

[sage-devel] Re: generator inconsistencies in finite fields

2008-01-21 Thread David Kohel
lds, one could set GF(q).gen() to be such a generator. This could either be convenient, or confuse users into thinking that this is more generally True. --David P.S. On the other hand, I find (additive) order confusing and there should be some checking of the index for FF.i below (i.e. give an e

[sage-devel] Re: Confusing Possible GPL & CC Conflict

2008-01-21 Thread David Joyner
On Jan 21, 2008 1:58 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2008 10:50 PM, Timothy Clemans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The message that started this is > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_images/2008_January_21#Image:Sagecontourplot.png > > > > If

[sage-devel] Re: Adding JSON capabilities to SAGE

2008-01-22 Thread David Joyner
On Jan 22, 2008 5:05 AM, Ted Kosan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > William wrote: > > > > If further testing is successful, I would like to have simpleJSON > > > included in SAGE. What procedure do I need to follow in order to make > > > an official software addition request? > > > > (1) Convince

[sage-devel] Re: generator inconsistencies in finite fields

2008-01-23 Thread David Kohel
an arbitrary finite algebraic extension field, where it is defined to be a generator of the field extension. --David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL

[sage-devel] ACM/SIGSAM Richard D. Jenks Memorial Prize

2008-01-24 Thread David Joyner
n (co-chair), Rand Corporation ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Mark Giesbrecht, ACM SIGSAM Chair, University of Waterloo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - David Musser, Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Mike Dewar, Numerical Algorithms Group ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) All nominations and supporting papers should be

[sage-devel] Re: infinity

2008-01-24 Thread David Roe
ended rationals. David On Jan 24, 2008 12:48 PM, Burcin Erocal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > Today I witnessed a mathematica user struggling with Sage because of > the way Sage handles infinity. On trac #1915 you can see an example. > > On Thu, 17 Jan 20

[sage-devel] Re: modular forms of weight one

2008-01-24 Thread David Joyner
18:33:11 -0500 >From: "Hurt, Norm E." >Subject: modular forms of weight one >To: "David Joyner" > > Dear Prof. Joyner, I have one more question on > modular forms of weight one. In the octahedral case > Serre (2003) has expressed N_p(f)

[sage-devel] Re: ACM/SIGSAM Richard D. Jenks Memorial Prize

2008-01-24 Thread David Joyner
On Jan 24, 2008 4:45 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2008 9:06 AM, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > (This was posted to the SIGSAM list. Posted here FYI.) > > > > 2008 CALL FOR NOMINATIONS > > > &

[sage-devel] Re: Why is the Groebner basis not an ideal

2008-01-25 Thread David Kohel
odifying the object in place. But that seems to be a design decision that the user-defined ideal generators are not an immutable attribute of the ideal, so GroebnerBasis also changes the ideal generators in place. --David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, s

[sage-devel] Re: problem adding a function to a Sage class

2008-01-25 Thread David Joyner
My wild guess, knowing nothing at all about what you are trying to do, is that either you have a import problem of some type. In any case, I would try cutting out the new code and putting it in a test.sage file then using attach to check for errors. On Jan 25, 2008 12:09 PM, John Cremona <[EMAIL

[sage-devel] Re: more on number of digits

2008-01-27 Thread David Harvey
ou're right, I wasn't very coherent. What I think I meant was to quickly compute the top few *binary* digits of "compare". The reason for this is that everything is stored internally in binary, so it's very easy to read off the top few *binary* digits of "self&quo

[sage-devel] Re: more on number of digits

2008-01-27 Thread David Harvey
On Jan 27, 2008, at 10:55 PM, David Harvey wrote: >> We actually know what the first few digits (or, actually, all of >> them) >> of *compare* are: 1000... > > Sorry, you're right, I wasn't very coherent. > > What I think I meant was to quickly

[sage-devel] Re: some sort of plotting problem

2008-01-28 Thread David Joyner
This doesn't answer your question but might provide a temporary workaround: sage: P = list_plot([Q(1+i/100) for i in srange(900)]) sage: show(P) On Jan 27, 2008 9:39 PM, Jonathan Bober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know what's going on in the following example? I can't seem > to rep

[sage-devel] Re: more on number of digits

2008-01-28 Thread David Harvey
On Jan 28, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Alex Ghitza wrote: > OK, I'm quite happy with this (thanks David for suggesting it > and Carl for telling me how to do it!) > > I've put this in and played around with it. It is definitely > *much* faster for the huge examples that I tr

[sage-devel] YUI info for notebook developers

2008-01-29 Thread David Joyner
Hi: I don't use the notebook but thought that possibly those who do development might want to check out http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/ It's BSD licensed, and I'm guessing might have some useful code. - David Joyner --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To pos

[sage-devel] Re: Lorenz attractor

2008-01-29 Thread David Joyner
That's cool. Good luck on your talk. BTW, have you tried this? http://www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/xpp/xpp.html I could not get it to compile from source but fortunately is a debian package (apt-get install xppaut). The docs say it "is a tool for solving * differential equations, * differenc

[sage-devel] Re: Lulu publication

2008-01-30 Thread David Joyner
copy of the Sage tutorial at http:// > www.lulu.com/content/1932117 > > I will be publishing a DVD there too as soon as I can get the iso to > upload. > > - Robert > > > On Dec 28, 2007, at 1:06 PM, William Stein wrote: > > > On Dec 27, 2007 5:58 AM, David Joyne

[sage-devel] Re: Group theory in Sage

2008-01-31 Thread David Joyner
; > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/browse_thread/thread/133be6e1519eeb0d). > > Check out especially the ultra cool Rubik's cube example, thanks to > David Joyner. > > Yours, > > John Voight > Assistant Professor of Mathematics > University

[sage-devel] Re: differential forms

2008-02-01 Thread David Joyner
I'm not sure if this helps or not. All I can find is a Maxima package, diff_form.mac, which may or may not be loaded in SAGE: http://maxima.cvs.sourceforge.net/maxima/maxima/share/diff_form/ This email http://www.ma.utexas.edu/pipermail/maxima/2006/003145.html might help explain what it does. The

[sage-devel] Re: differential forms

2008-02-01 Thread David Roe
What kinds of geometric objects do your forms live on? Algebraic curves and varieties? Manifolds? Manifolds with boundary? David On Feb 1, 2008 8:00 AM, Peter Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > I would like to either develop or find a method for computing w

[sage-devel] Re: http://sagemath.org/pub.html

2008-02-01 Thread David Joyner
cts of Infinite Groups (ed. Ben Fine), published by World Scientific Press. 3. (with David Kohel) http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wdj/expository/";>"Groups and SAGE". Provisionally accepted for Applications of Computational Group Theory (tent. title), AMS "Contemporary Mathema

[sage-devel] Python 3.0 To Be Backwards Incompatible

2008-02-02 Thread David Joyner
Hi: Maybe most people know this but just in case, here is a slashdot article on Python 3.0. I'm wondering if there is a simple summary of what types of commands will change in 3.0. - David ++ | Python 3.0 To Be Back

[sage-devel] Re: Another Homosexual Fantasy

2008-02-05 Thread David Joyner
I'm very sorry this got through. My fault, as I was half-asleep and clicking buttons too quickly. He has been banned and the message removed from the archives. - David Joyner On Feb 5, 2008 6:51 AM, uzmar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another Homosexual Fantasy > by SkinDi

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade

2008-02-05 Thread David Joyner
am lazy:-). On Feb 5, 2008 11:59 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I would like to propose again that we deprecate the > > sage -upgrade > > functionality for "normal end users". It was definitely never > meant to be use

[sage-devel] Re: Confusing Possible GPL & CC Conflict

2008-02-08 Thread David Joyner
ebook can be released under a CC license. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_images/2008_January_21#Image:Sagecontourplot.png > > On Jan 21, 4:30 am, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 21, 2008 1:58 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL P

[sage-devel] problem with test framework

2008-02-10 Thread David Harvey
octest_arith.py [5.2 s] exit code: 256 What is going on here? (I ran into this while trying to write a patch for http:// sagetrac.org/sage_trac/ticket/2128) This is an intel macbook, OS 10.4.11. david --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send emai

[sage-devel] Re: problem with test framework

2008-02-10 Thread David Harvey
er hack", which is much more confusing to me, is that it gets applied for any line containing the string "random"!! That's totally unexpected and weird. i.e. I could live with: sage: some_func(5) # random 234736 where it's cleare

[sage-devel] Permutation vs PermutationGroupElement

2008-02-11 Thread David Joyner
Hello all: Perhaps the following discussion (from emails, edited out for easier reading by SAGE developers) could lead to a PEP? David Kohel: I wonder if (1) Permutation could/should be not be imported into SAGE, or (2) if a single permutation class could/should be designed and used. This

[sage-devel] Re: Add new structures to Sage: Parent and Element

2008-02-12 Thread David Roe
can have a parameter check, by default True, which is able to disable this checking. Let me know if you have more questions. And for those of you out there interested in coercion, I'll have my bundle posted as soon as I get a chance to tie off some loose ends. David --~--~-~--~

[sage-devel] Re: cyclotomic_polynomial should be over ZZ?

2008-02-12 Thread David Harvey
On Feb 12, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Nick Alexander wrote: > Do others agree that cyclotomic_polynomial should be over ZZ? If so, > I will fix it. Absolutely. david --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsub

[sage-devel] Re: Permutation vs PermutationGroupElement

2008-02-12 Thread David Kohel
an be made as light as the implementation you have, but as efficient as the cython coded permutations for the arithmetic of the group law and group actions. --David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe

[sage-devel] Re: discrete logs

2008-02-13 Thread David Harvey
we could then plug into a cython class to perform the arithmetic. david --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at ht

[sage-devel] Re: discrete logs

2008-02-14 Thread David Kohel
group order, and pathologies like non-cyclic groups, should not be omitted by focusing on large prime order groups. --David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PRO

[sage-devel] Re: problem with test framework

2008-02-14 Thread David Harvey
t see how you can restore a previous state. (well I suppose you could just call SetSeed again and count the number of previous calls you made to Random() :-)) david --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscrib

[sage-devel] an amusing little function

2008-02-15 Thread David Joyner
action_on_vector(g,G) [1 0 0 0 1 1 0] [0 1 0 1 0 1 0] [0 0 0 0 0 0 1] [0 1 0 1 0 1 0] [0 0 0 0 0 0 1] [1 0 0 0 1 1 0] AUTHOR: David Joyner, licensed under the GPL v2 or greater. """ V = v.parent() n = len(list(v

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.2.alpha0 released!

2008-02-15 Thread David Roe
This is doctest where the result used to be Traceback (most recent call last): ... TypeError: cannot create a p-adic out of but after the p-adics patch it started working and returning p. I looked at it briefly and couldn't figure out why it was doing so. David On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at

[sage-devel] Re: an amusing little function

2008-02-15 Thread David Joyner
) sage: S5 = SymmetricGroup(5) sage: g = S5([(1,2,3)]) sage: A; perm_action(g,A) [1 0 0 0 1 1 0] [0 1 0 1 0 1 0] [0 0 0 0 0 0 1] [0 1 0 1 0 1 0] [0 0 0 0 0 0 1] [1 0 0 0 1 1 0] AUTHOR: David Joyner, licensed un

[sage-devel] Re: an amusing little function

2008-02-15 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > David Joyner wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:43 PM, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I think both/either of these are useful enough they should be > >&g

[sage-devel] Re: discrete logs

2008-02-16 Thread David Kohel
rd rho algorithms available, and it should be possible to use exponent or group order bounds, exact group exponents and orders, and factored group orders, when this information is available. --David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@go

[sage-devel] Re: an amusing little function

2008-02-17 Thread David Joyner
On Feb 15, 2008 9:57 PM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > David Joyner wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:43 PM, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I think both/either of these are useful enough they should be > >> includ

[sage-devel] Fwd: [Om] OpenMath @ SCIEnce

2008-02-18 Thread David Joyner
FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: Peter Horn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Feb 17, 2008 2:37 PM Subject: [Om] OpenMath @ SCIEnce To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello to the OpenMath Community! The SCIEnce project (Symbolic Computation Infrastructure for Europe, http://www.symbolic-computat

[sage-devel] Re: cached data in a class instance

2008-02-21 Thread David Harvey
This is a feature of python that I don't completely understand, but at least some documentation is here: http://docs.python.org/ref/atom-identifiers.html david --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscr

[sage-devel] Re: GeoGebra

2008-02-21 Thread David Joyner
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Ted Kosan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On the support list, a high school teacher (Jacob) wrote: > > > That would be a huge value to me. As a high school teacher, the > > features of GeoGebra almost completely fill the void of "things I wish > > sage coul

[sage-devel] Re: GeoGebra

2008-02-21 Thread David Joyner
he range of good developers and also increasing the > range of tools math researchers can bring to bare on attacking > a problem results in better research. For example, the solutions > to many problems in number theory involve > an incredible range of techniques in different areas o

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.2.rc0 release!

2008-02-22 Thread David Harvey
[all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 failed to build GNUTLS real1m54.769s user0m53.751s sys 1m20.593s sage: An error occurred while installing gnutls-2.2.1.p1 david --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@goog

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.2.rc0 release!

2008-02-22 Thread David Harvey
.gz I am going to try building again now with -j1. david --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.googl

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.2.rc0 release!

2008-02-22 Thread David Roe
are intended to demonstrate pitfalls of using pow_mpz_t_tmp and pow_ZZ_tmp dangerously. Patch posted at 2259. David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---

[sage-devel] Re: sage-edu, standard API, etc.

2008-02-22 Thread David Joyner
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow, this discussion blew up way to fast for me to keep on top of it and > form a coherent opinion. Ted, I'm specifically CCing you; if you don't > want to reply (either on or off list), I understand. Personally, I'd

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.10.2.rc0 release!

2008-02-22 Thread David Harvey
On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:43 PM, mabshoff wrote: > Hi David, > > I poked around in the install log and the issue is "Resource > temporarily unavailable", i.e. the dreaded OSX resource limits that > are too low. A suggested fix is at > > http://wiki.sagemath.org/Tips

[sage-devel] Re: exact cover problem

2008-02-22 Thread David Harvey
s >>> of the matrix who sum (exactly) to the vector 1,1,...,1. >>> > > Isn't that exactly the same thing as solving > >M*x = [1,...,1], > > over GF(2)? I think it's probably not mod 2. david --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~

[sage-devel] Re: exact cover problem

2008-02-22 Thread David Roe
much harder. In particular, you don't get to use linear algebra because your arithmetic isn't taking place over a field. David On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:10 PM, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The original problem said "binary matrix" so surely that me

[sage-devel] Re: some more entries for sagemath.org/pub.html

2008-02-23 Thread David Harvey
On Feb 23, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Alex Ghitza wrote: > David Harvey, http://arxiv.org/abs/0708.3404";>Efficient > computation of p-adic heights (18 pages), 2007. This will appear soon in LMS JCM. http://www.lms.ac.uk/jcm/ > David Harvey, http://arxiv.org/abs/math/0610973";

[sage-devel] Re: harmonizing derivatives of symbolic expressions and polynomials

2008-02-23 Thread David Harvey
ttp://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/756 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/753 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/1578 david --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from

[sage-devel] Re: harmonizing derivatives of symbolic expressions and polynomials

2008-02-23 Thread David Harvey
_ZZ_pEX.pyx libs/ntl/ntl_ZZ_pX.pyx libs/ntl/ntl_ZZX.pyx schemes/elliptic_curves/monsky_washnitzer.py lfunctions/dokchitser.py david --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL

[sage-devel] Re: some more entries for sagemath.org/pub.html

2008-02-23 Thread David Roe
A friend of mine also pointed out the following, which uses Sage to compare runtimes for different algorithms: Dan Boneh, Craig Gentry, Michael Hamburg. http://crypto.stanford.edu/~dabo/pubs.html";>Space-efficient identity based encryption without pairings (37 pages), Proceedings FOCS 200

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