On Jan 17, 2008 8:15 AM, mabshoff
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>
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> On Jan 17, 11:39 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> > transform.pyx does some maxima stuff, perhaps the patch (or some
> > combination with other patches) is leaving maxima in an unstable state?
>
> I consider this the most likely culprit, but I am not familiar with
> the maxima interface, so somebody else needs to debug this. I can't
> wait for sympy to step up and at least do symbolic matrices. Ondrej?
>
>
> > - Robert
> >
> > On Jan 17, 2008, at 1:46 AM, Simon King wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Michael,
> >
> > > since i was partially involved in that patch, i'd like to know what
> > > happened.
> >
> > > On Jan 17, 4:32 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > dortmund.de> wrote:
> > >> I am as surprised as you are that this patch causes problems. What
> > >> happens is that when doctesting plot/plot3d/transform.pyx it just
> > >> hangs.
> >
> > > What does transform.pyx do? Does it hang since it computes some
> > > modular invariant ring? This might be not a surprize: Singular is much
> > > faster than Magma in computing *non*-modular invariant rings, but
> > > Magma is much faster in *modular* invariant rings.
> >
> > > Or is plot/plot3d/transform.pyx doing something completely different,
> > > so that it seems there is an odd side-effect?
> >
> > >> The patch itself did get applied correctly and I don't
> > >> see how it could interfere, but it does. Since maxima is involved in
> > >> this doctest I will leave this for somebody else who is more familiar
> > >> with that subsystem to debug.
> >
> > > Perhaps this is related to something that i met a while ago. I had
> > > some computation involving occasionally some logarithms. When i
> > > repeated the *same* computation very often, the computation time for
> > > each run dramatically increased. That's to say: If t is the time for
> > > the first run of the computation, then the time for run number 100 has
> > > been 20*t or so. A closer inspection showed that this increase only
> > > concerned Maxima computations. I'll try to reproduce that phenomenon.
>
> I remember the issue, but the doctest just sits there at 0% CPU for
> hours, so I don't think it is that problem. Most likely as Robert
> suggested above it is a synchronization issue with the Maxima
> interface.
>
> The interesting question: Can anybody reproduce this with 2.10.alpha4
> + the bundle from #1485 applied?


Sorry for the long delay - it took me awhile to try this.

1) I installed 2.10.alpha4 and created a clone
2) I simply copied
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wdj/patches/matrix_group.py
to the appropriate place (couldn't figure out how to apply the patch...)
3) rebuilt sage using sage -b (twice)
4) ran sage-testall

All tests passed.


>
> > > Yours
> > >       Simon
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael
>
> >
>

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