Re: [sage-devel] Installing 32-bit Linux on an old laptop

2024-12-18 Thread Emil Widmann
I think doing sage developement and testing on a machine with just 512 MB is not a good idea. Sage is a ressource hog and it will not work. I think it is better to use a good 64 bit machine with lots of RAM and either dual boot it to a 32 bit distro or use virtualisation as mentioned. Quemu is

Re: [sage-devel] Installing 32-bit Linux on an old laptop

2024-12-12 Thread Emil Widmann
MX Linux is pretty solid and debian based There is a 32 bit build for MX Linux XFCE, https://mxlinux.org/download-links/ https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=MX fluxbox version should be even lighter dim...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2024 um 18:52:05 UTC+1: > Debian

Re: [sage-devel] Re: error building gmpy2 (rasperry pi)

2023-12-31 Thread Emil Widmann
uot;ls venv/var/lib/sage/" say?) >> If you do something like "/usr/bin/python3 -m pip install --user numpy", >> does it succeed and what whl file does it try to install? >> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 1:01:54 PM UTC-8 Emil Widmann wrote: >>

[sage-devel] Re: error building gmpy2 (rasperry pi)

2023-12-31 Thread Emil Widmann
allation succeeded in building any platform wheels yet? (What > does "ls venv/var/lib/sage/" say?) > If you do something like "/usr/bin/python3 -m pip install --user numpy", > does it succeed and what whl file does it try to install? > > On Sunday, December 31, 20

Re: [sage-devel] Re: SageMath for Windows installer

2016-04-07 Thread Emil Widmann
< I don't really wee why it could not be user-friendly, can you elaborate on this? I think cygwin is a lot slower than virtualisation - or has this changed? Am Montag, 4. April 2016 14:38:41 UTC+2 schrieb Sebastien Gouezel: > > > > Le lundi 4 avril 2016 11:48:34 UTC+2, Erik Bray a écrit : >> >>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: One-click installer for Vbox+Sage

2014-09-02 Thread Emil Widmann
esday, September 2, 2014 3:48:04 PM UTC+1, Emil Widmann wrote: >> >> I used bridged network, because I preconfigured a small sage server. >> Passwords are not known, but can be reset in the VM. >> >> Am Dienstag, 2. September 2014 13:42:20 UTC schrieb Volker Braun: &

Re: [sage-devel] Re: One-click installer for Vbox+Sage

2014-09-02 Thread Emil Widmann
ay, September 2, 2014 2:19:33 PM UTC+1, mmarco wrote: >> >> Does that show the IP from the point of view of the guest, or from the >> host? >> >> If the ports are correctly forwarded, localhost or 127.0.0.1 should work. >> >> El martes, 2 de septiembre de

Re: [sage-devel] Re: One-click installer for Vbox+Sage

2014-09-02 Thread Emil Widmann
Thanks for that line, looks promising! - you sure know your Vbox commandline options. I am going to give that a try. cheers emil Am Dienstag, 2. September 2014 08:33:08 UTC+2 schrieb Jori Mantysalo: > > On Mon, 1 Sep 2014, Emil Widmann wrote: > > > Sure, more work is needed

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-09-01 Thread Emil Widmann
; just having too much trouble with people posting illegal books > > publicly, then I get contacted by angry publishers and authors. > > This should now work: > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/emil/ > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Em

[sage-devel] Re: One-click installer for Vbox+Sage

2014-09-01 Thread Emil Widmann
g 2014, Emil Widmann wrote: > > >> Yes, I wrote an installer which included the VirtualBox installer and > >> the Sage Appliance inside one exe. > > I haven't tested it myself, but got comments: Too many Next-clicks, and > then Sage did not open; I tell to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-09-01 Thread Emil Widmann
k my part and maybe/maybe not setup a different download location. kind regards emil Am Sonntag, 31. August 2014 18:15:44 UTC+2 schrieb Volker Braun: > > Links don't work (home directories on boxen are private now) > > > On Sunday, August 31, 2014 2:57:20 PM UTC+1, Emil Widmann w

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-31 Thread Emil Widmann
:03 PM UTC+1, Emil Widmann wrote: >> >> wine should work >> >> >> On Sunday, August 31, 2014 1:00:46 PM UTC, Volker Braun wrote: >>> >>> How do I build it from a script on Linux? >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014 12:50:52

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-31 Thread Emil Widmann
wine should work On Sunday, August 31, 2014 1:00:46 PM UTC, Volker Braun wrote: > > How do I build it from a script on Linux? > > > On Sunday, August 31, 2014 12:50:52 PM UTC+1, Emil Widmann wrote: >> >> >> >> Am Freitag, 29. August 2014 07:36:05 UTC+2 sch

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-31 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Freitag, 29. August 2014 07:36:05 UTC+2 schrieb Jori Mantysalo: > > On Thu, 28 Aug 2014, Emil Widmann wrote: > > >> However, can we put VirtualBox and Sage to one .exe? What is really > >> needed > >> is to convert http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageApplianc

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Emil Widmann
However, can we put VirtualBox and Sage to one .exe? What is really needed is to convert http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance to be just "1) Download this .exe, 2) Doubleclick it, 3) Ready". Yes, I wrote an installer which included the VirtualBox installer and the Sage Appliance inside on

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Donnerstag, 28. August 2014 11:30:21 UTC+2 schrieb wstein: > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Emil Widmann > wrote: > > > > > > Am Mittwoch, 27. August 2014 21:00:49 UTC+2 schrieb Travis Scrimshaw: > >> > >> > >> > >>

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-28 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Mittwoch, 27. August 2014 21:00:49 UTC+2 schrieb Travis Scrimshaw: > > > > IMO there are three big issues with the current Sage Windows VM: > > 1 - It's slow because it runs within the VM (which also causes some > usability issues with multiple webpages by the OS setup); this also has > hig

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How practical/useful would a native windows subset be?

2014-08-27 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Mittwoch, 27. August 2014 11:17:59 UTC+2 schrieb wstein: > > I tried to port Sage to mingw once, back when it was easier (2006), > and failed already at building Python. > There was a huge page with hacks to maybe do it back then, but they > weren't working. > There's a stackoverflow qu

[sage-devel] Re: Building sage 6.0 on sage debian live fails at scipy / use of SAGE_ATLAS_LIB

2014-01-20 Thread Emil Widmann
> > My guess would be /usr/lib/atlas-base for SAGE_ATLAS_LIB, but since you > don't list the whole directory content you'll have to read the above > paragraph to answer whether it's actually correct. > I tried this, but it doesn|t work. If I look at the error messages I think SAGE_ATLAS_LIB i

[sage-devel] Building sage 6.0 on sage debian live fails at scipy / use of SAGE_ATLAS_LIB

2014-01-20 Thread Emil Widmann
I try to build Sage on sage-debian-live (Live USB) with atlas package from debian. I use the following settings: #!/bin/sh # build script to build sage micro release # build utils sudo apt-get install binutils gcc gfortran make m4 perl tar # use default debian lapack - compatibility and also f

Re: [sage-devel] building sage 6.0 on debian live (squeeze)

2013-12-26 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Mittwoch, 25. Dezember 2013 20:40:41 UTC schrieb Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx): > > Hi, > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 02:07:12PM -0800, Emil Widmann wrote: > > I am trying to build the latest sage release with the possible goal of > > releasing another Live image

[sage-devel] Re: building sage 6.0 on debian live (squeeze)

2013-12-24 Thread Emil Widmann
I'd say the working definition of SAGE_FAT_BINARY is "made within the last 10 years". In particular, it implies SAGE_ATLAS_ARCH=base, which is the slowest "generic" target. You can build even slower ones on certain architectures. There is no way to build Sage on every x86 cpu, that would incl

Re: [sage-devel] building sage 6.0 on debian live (squeeze)

2013-12-24 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Dienstag, 24. Dezember 2013 08:09:59 UTC schrieb Jeroen Demeyer: > > On 2013-12-23 23:07, Emil Widmann wrote: > > *Hiccup1 - needs gfortran to build atlas package:* > > I had an error about missing fortran just befor atlas build > This shouldn't happen, normally

[sage-devel] Re: building sage 6.0 on debian live (squeeze)

2013-12-24 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Montag, 23. Dezember 2013 22:39:21 UTC schrieb Volker Braun: > > Also, fortran is a build-time dependency (but not runtime). You either > install your distro's fortran, or you compile gcc (which includes fortran). > You did both. > OK, this is clear in hindsight, and after reading the documen

[sage-devel] Re: building sage 6.0 on debian live (squeeze)

2013-12-24 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Montag, 23. Dezember 2013 22:36:34 UTC schrieb Volker Braun: > > On Monday, December 23, 2013 10:07:12 PM UTC, Emil Widmann wrote >> >> *Hiccup 2: SAGE_FAT_BINARIES / SAGE_ATLAS_ARCH conflict* >> > > It seems that you set both, which does not make sense. SAGE_

[sage-devel] building sage 6.0 on debian live (squeeze)

2013-12-23 Thread Emil Widmann
I am trying to build the latest sage release with the possible goal of releasing another Live image version (USB/CD/HD disk image). *uname -a* Linux debian 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1 i686 GNU/Linux Target: i486-linux-gnu gcc version 4.4.5 (Debian 4.4.5-8) I got

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2013-01-18 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2013 10:54:39 UTC+1 schrieb Jan Groenewald: > > Hi > > This is now http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/13966 > > Could the author of each LiveCD/USB image send a one or two-line > description of it? Of when it is appropriate? > Size of image, Hardware Requirements (3

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2013-01-18 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2013 07:05:54 UTC+1 schrieb Jan Groenewald: > > Hi Jason, > > No, I don't have an account. Yes, that would be reasonable from my side. > > Regards, > Jan > Maybe ask W. Stein directly about server access. I think it should be possible to get an account. Although I made

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2013-01-17 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013 16:56:41 UTC+1 schrieb Jan Groenewald: > > Hi > > On 15 January 2013 23:47, Jason Grout > > wrote: > >> I'm really interested in a USB image that I can hand to students that >> want to do development with me that: >> >> * I can modify (to include the Sage cell ser

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2013-01-16 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Dienstag, 15. Januar 2013 22:47:06 UTC+1 schrieb jason: > > On 1/15/13 3:08 AM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > Also if there is interest, a version can be made that installs Ubuntu, > > the source code for Sage, and all needed developer tools to build and > > run Sage. > > I'm really interested

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2013-01-15 Thread Emil Widmann
Am Dienstag, 15. Januar 2013 15:42:16 UTC+1 schrieb Jan Groenewald: > > Hi KCrisman, > > I'm not sure what Emil's ISO is. Is it a LIVECD only or an installer too? > (The Ubuntu one is both.) Where can it be downloaded? > It is a Live CD, but has of course an installer built in. You can download

Re: [sage-devel] Re: JMM 2013 Sage Booth

2012-12-07 Thread Emil Widmann
On Thursday, December 6, 2012 2:05:52 AM UTC+8, kcrisman wrote: > > As for equipment, there's been talk recently about a bootable USB thumb >>> drive with Sage on it. Having various ways to hand out Sage to people who >>> bring their laptops by would be great. >>> >>> >> The possibility to cre

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage Days in Bobo-Dioulasso debriefing; Sage in developping countries

2012-12-05 Thread Emil Widmann
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:53:34 PM UTC+8, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > > > > I am a bit late in replying, because I do not actively follow all > discussions, but since I made the Live CD I have some remarks > > == Windows users == > - virtualbox is not a solution. People r

Re: [sage-devel] Re: JMM 2013 Sage Booth

2012-12-05 Thread Emil Widmann
On Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:13:56 PM UTC+8, David Roe wrote: > > > > As for equipment, there's been talk recently about a bootable USB thumb > drive with Sage on it. Having various ways to hand out Sage to people who > bring their laptops by would be great. > > The possibility to create w

[sage-devel] Update Sage Live CD (with sage version 5.3)

2012-10-18 Thread Emil Widmann
Hi, I updated the Sage Live CD. It has now Sage version 5.3. I also worked on the functionality, new additional features: - full html docs for en, de, fr, ru and tr - smaller size, its again below 600 MB (stripped executables and libs) - optional small preconfigured sage server (20 worker account

[sage-devel] bugs?

2012-02-19 Thread Emil Widmann
I forward the following from sage-support because I know to little to answer those issues competently and I also think those questions shouldn't pass uncommented: From: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/browse_thread/thread/c46950723108a191# Hi there, here are some bugs which may or ma

[sage-devel] Re: VirtualBox

2012-02-06 Thread Emil Widmann
> disagrees with the current behavior of > `sage -upgrade`, which tries to merge any committed changes into the > new version you're upgrading to. That doesn't make sense IMO but there > you are. Do avoid another misunderstanding: Of course I don't suggest that sage -upgrade should have a differe

[sage-devel] Re: VirtualBox

2012-02-06 Thread Emil Widmann
> A launcher written in Python could be used on other OS'es, too. good point > VBscript is an ugly abomination, nobody in his right mind will voluntarily > use it. Lots of people (windows folks) use it even voluntarily - I will not speculate on their (or my) state of mind ... >Not to mention that

[sage-devel] Re: VirtualBox

2012-02-06 Thread Emil Widmann
@mmarco >I use unionfs to mix the squashed filesystem with a directory to save >the changes. Maybe that would be a source of errors if somebody makes >changes in his sage directory and then upgrade by replacing the >compressed file. I think the unionfs is a well tested technology now, but a clean s

[sage-devel] Re: VirtualBox

2012-02-05 Thread Emil Widmann
On Feb 5, 12:23 pm, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > On Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:08:46 UTC+8, mmarco wrote: > > > On 5 feb, 09:30, Volker Braun wrote: > > > I think thats all premature optimization. First we need a bulletproof > > way > > > of running Sage in the VM. At the end we can still worry abou

[sage-devel] Re: VirtualBox

2012-02-05 Thread Emil Widmann
On Feb 5, 8:30 am, Volker Braun wrote: > I think thats all premature optimization. First we need a bulletproof way > of running Sage in the VM. I agree - "premature optimization, the root of all evil". In fact the VM itself is just one module of the interface and it is definitely far better devel

[sage-devel] Re: VirtualBox

2012-02-04 Thread Emil Widmann
On Feb 4, 8:25 pm, mmarco wrote: > I have been working on a VM with compressed filesystems. I have > thought that maybe a good aproach to the "automatic generation" > problem would be to mount the sage directory from a compressed file in > a shared folder. It should need, as William sugested, a wi

[sage-devel] Re: Changes in supported platforms

2012-01-17 Thread Emil Widmann
Just a suggestion: Would it make sense to lift the Virtual Image from "Expected to work" to "Fully supported"? At least it is the main distribution for windows and also any other plattforms whith no existing native port. It should be possible to set up a VirtualBox machine on one of the build bots

[sage-devel] Re: Changes in supported platforms

2012-01-17 Thread Emil Widmann
on the webpage it says: Microsoft Windows VMware images can be downloaded from http://www.sagemath.org/download-windows.html These should be reliable, though we do not test these prior to releasing Sage. Use VirtualBox instead of VMware? There has been a lot of confusion about those two programs

[sage-devel] Re: VirtualBox

2012-01-13 Thread Emil Widmann
> perhaps instead of opening a browser in VM, we should rather open a > terminal window there, maybe with Sage started? This is exactly the current solution (The version which we currently distribute). The whole discussion is about improving the Out of the Box experience, where especially the 1st

[sage-devel] Re: VirtualBox

2012-01-13 Thread Emil Widmann
On Jan 13, 6:05 pm, mmarco wrote: > Working in my own VM, i have noticed  a problem of the "browser inside > the VM" aproach: keyboard layout. Is there a way to make VirtualBox > use the host layout inside the guest? With my current VM (Live CD) I had a flag that brings up a menu to choose locals

[sage-devel] Re: VirtualBox

2012-01-13 Thread Emil Widmann
> Do you mean that one cannot run Virtual Box without X11? > I'd imagine if it were possible one can just run the sagenb server there, > and > use the browser on the host system only. The discussion goes in circles ;-) Running the Vm without X and accessing it from the host-browser is the current

[sage-devel] Re: VirtualBox

2012-01-11 Thread Emil Widmann
On 11 Jan., 16:56, Volker Braun wrote: > The virtual machine has hardware virtualization support enabled. You can > probably switch on HW virtualization in the BIOS of your computer, which is > recommended if you do any virtualization. You can also disable it in the > settings of the virtual machi

[sage-devel] Re: VirtualBox

2012-01-10 Thread Emil Widmann
Oh well good news, this clarification and redirection of "sage on windows" was overdue ... I agree with Volker Braun, that a Virtual Box based solution should have priority. A viable solution - especially since Virtual Box is GPLed now - is in short term reach. My last shot on it was the combined

[sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.prealpha0 test image for CD/USB pendriver

2012-01-05 Thread Emil Widmann
On Jan 4, 4:23 am, cch wrote: > Hi, > > I made a test sage-5.0.prealpha0  image for Intel x64 system. It owns > the following functions: > > a) Sage-5-prealaph0 > b) Imagemagick-6.7.2 > c) matplotlib-gui enabled (with _tkagg backend) > e) ffmpeg-0.8.4 > f) firefox nightly build 12a1 > g) jre-1.6

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.7.2 make failure on Thinkpad T-40 with Oneiric Ubuntu - maxima fails to build

2011-12-03 Thread Emil Widmann
> It seems that properties of the host CPU are passed over to the VM > guest as indicated > here,https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=33954 Maybe there is a chance with VirtualBox: I found the following in the documentation of the VBoxManage command: VBoxManage --synthcpu on|off: Th

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.7.2 make failure on Thinkpad T-40 with Oneiric Ubuntu - maxima fails to build

2011-12-03 Thread Emil Widmann
> Despite being 32-bit, the VM still sees a very modern processor, though, so > it is possible something could go wrong on old hardware. If someone advises > me on exactly what to do, I could try building a binary that should be > usable on old machines. Would it be enough to do > > export SAGE_FA

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Windows Installer

2011-12-01 Thread Emil Widmann
On Dec 1, 6:43 pm, Volker Braun wrote: > VirtualBox is GPL version 2. Oracle has a more-restricted add-on package to > support virtual USB and so on, but we don't need that for Sage purposes. > Also we are not linking to VirtualBox, so there shouldn't be any conflict > with GPL v2 vs. v3. But the

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Windows Installer

2011-12-01 Thread Emil Widmann
Volker Braun wrote: > Sounds great. The crucial feature to get right is to detect already > installed instances of VirtualBox or (any other hypervisor) and then NOT > install VirtualBox which will either fail to install or install and fight > the competition when you try to reboot ;-) It uses the

[sage-devel] Sage Windows Installer

2011-12-01 Thread Emil Widmann
The last days I built a Sage Windows Installer. It includes Virtualbox (Gpl2 licence) and autoinstalls it together with a virtual machine. It also autoimports it and creates entries for the start of the machine in the Windows Program Folder. It also creates an uninstaller. I have made some screens

[sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Emil Widmann
> Try shift clicking on the blue line that appears > when you put your mouse between code cells. sometimes one has to admit total noobiness to learn something :-) thank you -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to s

[sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Emil Widmann
> What do you have in mind?  I have some ideas for more advanced editing, > but the technology and tools are catching up at this point (i.e., we > could do it, but outside projects are approaching the right > capabilities, so I'd rather use actively-maintained outside projects). Hi Jason, I was

[sage-devel] Re: MathCad-like front end for Sage

2011-11-28 Thread Emil Widmann
On Nov 28, 11:33 am, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > It's much more urgent to work on the Sage notebook, than to create yet > another frontend. > IMHO. Probably true. Anyhow, people will work on whatever project they like... I guess I am ignorant, but it should be possible to give the notebook some adva

[sage-devel] Re: Segfault in DiGraph.automorphism_group

2011-11-22 Thread Emil Widmann
On Nov 22, 2:46 pm, Florent Hivert wrote: >       Hi there, > > I want to report a segfault in DiGraph.automorphism_group. > > > On my machine the following code creates a segfault if > > finite_semigroup-nt.patch is applied and works if not. > > >     sage: G = DiGraph() > >     sage: G.add_ver

[sage-devel] Re: 5 doctest errors when building 4.7.2

2011-11-21 Thread Emil Widmann
On Nov 19, 11:23 am, Volker Braun wrote: > I propose that we just add a doctest that makes it clear that you shouldn't > run doctests as root. No more mysterious failures. > >     sage: import os >     sage: try: >     ...    uid = os.getuid() >     ... except AttributeError: >     ...    uid =

Re: [sage-devel] Re: 5 doctest errors when building 4.7.2

2011-11-19 Thread Emil Widmann
Volker Braun wrote: > I propose that we just add a doctest that makes it clear that you shouldn't > run doctests as root. No more mysterious failures. > > sage: import os > sage: try: > ...uid = os.getuid() > ... except AttributeError: > ...uid = -1 > sage: if uid=

Re: [sage-devel] Re: 5 doctest errors when building 4.7.2

2011-11-19 Thread Emil Widmann
Nathann Cohen wrote: > Yoo !!! > > > doctest failure in linear_programming.rst: > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12019 > This ticket is now waiting for a review. > > failing doctest in integer_vector.py (gale ryser theorem) > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12022 >

[sage-devel] Re: VMWare versus Virtualbox ... again

2011-11-15 Thread Emil Widmann
I created a ticket ... http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/12042 I will also email H. Shilly about it -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit thi

[sage-devel] Re: 5 doctest errors when building 4.7.2

2011-11-14 Thread Emil Widmann
About the failing test sage -t -force_lib "devel/sage/sage/graphs/digraph.py" # Killed/ crashed I ran the test again with -verbose I think its connected to the routine dcycle.feedback_edge_set (in line 1252) and maybe its an integer / floating error Trying: cycle.size()###line 1338:_sage_

[sage-devel] Re: 5 doctest errors when building 4.7.2

2011-11-13 Thread Emil Widmann
> Anything that makes the doctests scream qualifies as a bug. Anything > that is not even a bug but that is not the behaviour you expected also > qualifies as a bug, even though it may just mean rewriting some > documentation :-) Ok I created some tickets: doctest failure in linear_programming.rst

[sage-devel] Re: 5 doctest errors when building 4.7.2

2011-11-13 Thread Emil Widmann
On Nov 13, 4:53 pm, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Helloo Emil ! > > Well, it looks like I am to blame for most of these errors :-/ Hi Nathan, thanks for quick response! I am not sure if those are errors, but when I, as a non export, try to build sage then I take failing doctests seriously

[sage-devel] 5 doctest errors when building 4.7.2

2011-11-13 Thread Emil Widmann
I compiled sage 4.7.2 (and eventually use the new make micro_install option) on my Live CD base distro. But I got some doctest failures. With two of them I get different correct solutions compared to the solutions in the doctests. Other failures seem specific for my setup. Could you give me advice

[sage-devel] sage -strip or make micro_release

2011-11-12 Thread Emil Widmann
How to use the new option for building smaller binaries? Is it "make micro_relase", or do I have to use sage -strip after the build? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For

[sage-devel] Re: A minimal vm

2011-11-09 Thread Emil Widmann
> > I have a really dumb question.  Do you need a VM player (e.g., > > VirtualBox, VMWare) to use this?  Or is that included somehow?  Maybe > > this is obviously "yes" but I just didn't see it mentioned earlier in > > the thread, sorry if it's noise. > > > - kcrisman I found Virtualbox a tad easi

[sage-devel] Re: A minimal vm

2011-11-09 Thread Emil Widmann
> Besides the size issue, do you have any other feedback? OK :-) , finally I managed. After long download import needs another 8 min on my machine. Bootup, startup is fast. It works like a treat! About the size You have a 16 GB dynamically allocated disk df -a command gives about 3.5 GB used I

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Logo (vector graphics format)

2011-11-09 Thread Emil Widmann
On Nov 9, 5:49 pm, kcrisman wrote: > Nice!  So this would be for a background for a computer? Yeah, its a desktop "wallpaper". I wan't to use it as default for my sage vm. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to

[sage-devel] Re: A minimal vm

2011-11-09 Thread Emil Widmann
> Did you zero out > the virtual disk before exporting? There is trash in the unused virtual > disk sectors that impacts compression. > > IMHO the most important thing is not cutting down the VM to the minimal > size, but making it easily maintainable by having a script that spits out a > new OVA w

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Logo (vector graphics format)

2011-11-09 Thread Emil Widmann
Made it with Inkscape and Gimp, OK here is it (1600x1050, 270 KB) http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/emil/sagelive/pictures/SageWallpaper.jpg -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegr

[sage-devel] Re: A minimal vm

2011-11-09 Thread Emil Widmann
edback? > > Thanks > > On 9 nov, 16:06, Emil Widmann wrote: > > > On Nov 9, 1:00 pm, mmarco wrote: > > > > It is that big because just the sage directory itself is very big. The > > > guest OS is really very minimal: almost no services running, and only >

[sage-devel] Re: A minimal vm

2011-11-09 Thread Emil Widmann
On Nov 9, 1:00 pm, mmarco wrote: > It is that big because just the sage directory itself is very big. The > guest OS is really very minimal: almost no services running, and only > installed the very basic stuff (no x server, for instance). > > Maybe some space could be freed if, after compiling, t

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Logo (vector graphics format)

2011-11-09 Thread Emil Widmann
On Nov 9, 1:04 pm, kcrisman wrote: > On Nov 9, 6:18 am, Emil Widmann wrote: > > > Is the Sage logo  as a vector graphic file somewhere? I want to build > > a small virtual machine server (with gui) and would like to make a > > nice wallpaper. > > http://www.sagem

[sage-devel] Re: A minimal vm

2011-11-09 Thread Emil Widmann
Ok it works - downloading it now. I had to use wget http://riemann.unizar.es/sagevm/Sage.ova Anyway - 2 GB is big! - how big is it if you lzma it? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@google

[sage-devel] Sage Logo (vector graphics format)

2011-11-09 Thread Emil Widmann
Is the Sage logo as a vector graphic file somewhere? I want to build a small virtual machine server (with gui) and would like to make a nice wallpaper. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@

[sage-devel] Re: A minimal vm

2011-11-09 Thread Emil Widmann
On Nov 9, 10:59 am, mmarco wrote: > I have created a virtual machine with sage and a very minimal system. > In my machine (a core i7 desktop) it boots in less than 10 seconds, > and has a sage server running in around 20 from the pressing of the > start button. > > It can be downloaded fromhttp:

[sage-devel] Re: or sage-5.0? (Re: [sage-release] Next release: sage-4.7.3 or sage-4.8?)

2011-11-06 Thread Emil Widmann
On Nov 4, 2:45 pm, kcrisman wrote: > On Nov 4, 3:19 am, Julien Puydt wrote: > > > Le 04/11/2011 02:29, kcrisman a crit : > > > > On the other hand, it's also clear that without significantly more > > > help on the Cygwin port, it's not going to be there for a while.  I > > > just messed with it

[sage-devel] Re: Updated Live CD sagelive-511-47-rc1.iso

2011-10-21 Thread Emil Widmann
Ok, no troubles reported, it goes out: release announcement: http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/emil/doc/html/en/release_notes-511-47.html.html -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@google

[sage-devel] Re: sagenb

2011-10-19 Thread Emil Widmann
I tried the new server and it feels *much* smoother than the old one (from central europe). So congratulations and thanks to all involved. I tried to test with copy pasting some examples from the tutorial, everything I did worked fine except the maxima plotting commands in tutorial/interfaces.html

[sage-devel] Re: Updated Live CD sagelive-511-47-rc1.iso

2011-10-17 Thread Emil Widmann
Changes are implemented. Notebook: admin pwd: sage I also let sage autostart at first boot (i.e. without savefile). Built an exe installer with this version for all windows except windows ME. Should also install on W 7 64 bit. DOWNLOAD: http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/emil/sagelive/sagelive-

[sage-devel] Re: Updated Live CD sagelive-511-47-rc1.iso

2011-10-15 Thread Emil Widmann
On Oct 15, 8:18 am, Volker Braun wrote: > This only requires netcat and bash :-) > > === > #!/bin/sh > > while true ; do >     echo Waiting for notebook to start up... >     if nc -d -w 0 localhost 8000 ; then > break >     fi >     sleep 1 > done > > echo Starting browser >

[sage-devel] Re: Updated Live CD sagelive-511-47-rc1.iso

2011-10-15 Thread Emil Widmann
> > then there is a SeaMonkey error because it's waiting for the NB to > > start at localhost:8000 > > I struggled with that briefly, but I couldn't come up with a better > solution so far than just to wait a fixed amount of time > before the start of the browser. Could anyone provide a short snip

[sage-devel] Re: Updated Live CD sagelive-511-47-rc1.iso

2011-10-14 Thread Emil Widmann
> 1) If it's on the virtual machine, does it really need you to create a > password for the notebook?  That seems overkill for this.  If it's > literally run off a CD that's pointless; good point, I will make the icons run sage -notebook require_login=False maybe I also precreate the admin accoun

[sage-devel] Updated Live CD sagelive-511-47-rc1.iso

2011-10-14 Thread Emil Widmann
I updated the current Live CD image. Changes: + Sage 471 compiled with SAGE_MATPLOTLIB_GUI="yes" and SAGE_FAT_BINARY="yes" + new html doc (english) + new feature: sfs_load to load/unload additional modules "on the fly" + more Bling: added some wallpapers I kept the base distribution with a Linux

[sage-devel] Re: Sage virtual appliance (VirtualBox)

2011-05-17 Thread Emil Widmann
> I don't have any experience running a class room on top of a VM. Should work > fine if you give it enough resources. I thought about something similar to http://wiki.sagemath.org/DanDrake/JustEnoughSageServer -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscrib

[sage-devel] Re: Sage virtual appliance (VirtualBox)

2011-05-17 Thread Emil Widmann
Downloaded again and imported as "ova". It works fine! Small issue: I guess you don't plan to support different keyboard maps - mine is german quertz. But one shouldn't need to type much in the VM anyway. what settings would you recommend for a small sage server, like for a class with 20 people?

[sage-devel] Re: Sage virtual appliance (VirtualBox)

2011-05-17 Thread Emil Widmann
with the command readelf -h libpython2.6.so.1.0 i get:: Error: Not and Elf file - it has the wrong magic byte at the start Error: libpython2.6.so.1.0; Failed to read file header maybe it is just some sort of corruption, so I download file again and the import OVA as you suggested (will need 1 hour

[sage-devel] Re: Sage virtual appliance (VirtualBox)

2011-05-17 Thread Emil Widmann
On May 17, 10:49 am, Volker Braun wrote: > It sounds like you have an old version of VirtualBox installed. Which > version are you using? You were right I had only v 3.2.8 - I upgraded to 4.0.8 now! I strongly suggest you upgrade. VirtualBox 4 has a > GUI to configure the TCP/IP ports to conne

[sage-devel] Re: Sage virtual appliance (VirtualBox)

2011-05-17 Thread Emil Widmann
I finally installed VirtualBox and tested the Sage-4.6.2.ova. unfortunatly I get: python:error while loading shared libraries: /home/sage/sage/local/lib/ libpython2.6.si.1.0: invalid ELF header. after booting, so I can't start sage. It took me a moment to figure out that one has to rename the *.ov

[sage-devel] Re: Sage virtual appliance (VirtualBox)

2011-05-15 Thread Emil Widmann
On May 15, 11:38 pm, Volker Braun wrote: > Fair enough. I think 32-bit guests can work with software virtualization > irregardless of the processor/host OS bitwidth, so thats probably safer. I > made another VM with F14 i386 + Sage-4.6.2: > > http://www.stp.dias.ie/~vbraun/Sage/Sage-4.6.2.ova > >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage virtual appliance (VirtualBox)

2011-05-15 Thread Emil Widmann
> I think it would be nice if our Sage VM appliance could run on a wide > variety of hardware, much as Sage itself does not require high-end > machines to work. > > -- Kelvin Very true - if Sage is primarily a research tool for mathematicians then one doesn't need to worry about ressources to muc

[sage-devel] Re: Sage virtual appliance (VirtualBox)

2011-05-14 Thread Emil Widmann
> Thanks for the suggestions. I haven't tried to make a hand-crafted > absolutely minimal Linux install because that would be a hassle to maintain. Having a automated script to produce virtual machine images is a huge step in the right direction. Personally I think size (1.4 GB) could be optimize

[sage-devel] Re: How to target Mathematica on Google - I'll pay !!!

2011-02-27 Thread Emil Widmann
> Interestingly, his only significant complaint about Sage is that it > isn't easy to use as a Windows user. Which is a totally valid > complaint given the state of using Sage on Windows right now, but that > was the main obstruction. > > - Robert Concerning an easy windows version: I recently di

[sage-devel] Re: AskSage oddity

2011-02-14 Thread Emil Widmann
Hi! I was also skeptical about ask.sagemath.org.It seemed a bit too "flashy" and I thought, oh no, yet another list to follow (beside devel, support, edu, windows ...). But last weeks I posted 2 questions there and I had the impression that the system allowed a very nuanced communication about the

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-08 Thread Emil Widmann
> Is by "Sage-Windows port" meaning a "native" Windows application rather than > something based on Cygwin? With Sage - Windows port I was meant the Cygwin port. Or at least any port that is very easy to install (Windows Installer) and runs with comparable performance to a Cygwin version inside

[sage-devel] Re: FAQ suggestion: I'm a programmer, how can I contribute to Sage?

2011-02-08 Thread Emil Widmann
On Feb 8, 3:39 pm, Niles wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I just wanted to let you know that I've made some additions to the > Stack Overflow landing page > > http://wiki.sagemath.org/StackOverflowLanding > > These are basically the suggestions I opened this thread with, but > I've also taken the li

[sage-devel] Re: Goto Blas.

2011-02-05 Thread Emil Widmann
I know this thread is a bit outdated, but I had problems to compile Atlas in an experiment and wanted to ask if anybody has tried to use GotoBlas instead of Atlas in the meantime? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email

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