Am Mittwoch, 27. August 2014 21:00:49 UTC+2 schrieb Travis Scrimshaw:
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> IMO there are three big issues with the current Sage Windows VM:
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> 1 - It's slow  because it runs within the VM (which also causes some 
> usability issues with multiple webpages by the OS setup); this also has 
> high memory usage.
> 2 - It's too big (I think it's something like 3+ GB)
> 3 - You can't upgrade Sage or really work with different branches as far 
> as I remember.
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> To have such an easy way to get local versions of Sage running on Windows 
> would be a major help for India, Japan, and South Korea -- when I was there 
> last year giving some Sage demos, nearly everyone had a Windows laptop. 
> (Although now I'd just refer them to SMC, but solid internet connections in 
> India can be hit or miss.)
>
> Best,
> Travis
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Slowness may come due to high memory consumtion on restricted hardware. If 
you have enough memory to run the virtual machine and bridge the output of 
the sage VM to the host browser you have almost no speed penalty.

Of course in a real world use case with 3-10 year old computers and limited 
bandwith/memory/diskspace big VM's can become problematic.

If you want to develop in sage then maybe the best way to go is a big 
image. In other cases of just using sage, maybe it is better to use 
compressed images.

@volker braun
$ du -sh Sage/
5.2G Sage/

When I spoke of 700 MB virtual machine I meant the data in a compressed 
filesystem (e.g. Squashfilesystem with estimated compression rate of 3.5) 
like most live distributions use. I also removed some files (e.g. docs) 
from the full sage distribution to make it smaller. Docs can be stored 
directly in the windows filesystem. 

This would also mean that such a small version is not perfectly suited for 
developement (although it can be done), but well suited for just "use" like 
teaching. 

I developed and tested on restricted hardware (e.g. old desktop with 1 GB 
memory, 2,2 Ghz dual core Processor).

I know this topic has been discussed before and it was decided to ship the 
full blown version as the the official sage VM. Still it is my opinion that 
a small image with an optimized userinterface would be the best use of 
developer hours and skill to improve the "sage on windows experience" for 
new users and students. With the exception of using the Cloud, of course.

Cheers
emil

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