On Nov 4, 2:45 pm, kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 4, 3:19 am, Julien Puydt <julien.pu...@laposte.net> wrote: > > > Le 04/11/2011 02:29, kcrisman a crit : > > > > On the other hand, it's also clear that without significantly more > > > help on the Cygwin port, it's not going to be there for a while. I > > > just messed with it today, and decided to uninstall my Cygwin instead > > > because of some weird sed problem Leif and I were trying to figure out > > > a few months ago... sigh. > > > Why do you want to use cygwin? > > Haha! I do not *personally* want to use Cygwin! But I've been told > that it's the only reasonable chance we have at a non-VM one-click > Windows option for now that doesn't use a server.
I follow the discussion about the windows port and Cygwin now over 1 and a half year and what I read tells me that it gives most people working on it headaches and dissatisfaction. It seems by all means not *easy* and even a successful completion is in question. I have the feeling that this "Cygwin port project" is a sour point and offers a drag to the overall sage project. It is like this unhappy love affair which stops you to be open-minded and unable to move on for new relationships. May I please refer you to the wisdom of "Master Foo and the Old Hand": http://catb.org/~esr/writings/unix-koans/oldhand.html I think there is a working option with the virtual machine. Actually this is also the better option in terms of performance. It is also better in terms of portability and maintainability. It has potential for further developement (what about an easy setup, virtual machine sage server, auto sandboxed, so sysadmins will love it). Documentation, support etc is very similar for lots of platforms, performance loss is minimal. But currently there is a lack of consistent documentation. Development and support for it is mostly a one man show (Volker Braun). These are my thoughts on the topic, I hope they are not inappropriate. I know many people worked hard to make that Cygwin port come true. And sorry for my english. emil PS: "the only reasonable chance for a non VM 1 click Windows version" for completeness: 1)There is the "AndLinux (Colinux) Option" I have a running prototyp, open work is to construct an installer. To have a real one click installer this would mean also to include installation of a Xming server. http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/emil/doc/SageWin/Sage_on_andLinux.html 2) the dual boot exe installer of the Live CD This is a true 1-click install but there are the concerns that it borks peoples NTFS partitions. I didn't experience this problem myself, but obviously I don't want to take responsibility either. However it would be possible to develop this into a "sandboxed" version, i.e. so that the File handling on the NTFS is done by Windows alone and the Live CD works only in the prepared virtual drives (files formated with ext2 or ext3 Filesystems). http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/emil/doc/html/en/HOWTO-FirstSteps.htm#Windows_Installer There are a couple of paths to choose, each is imperfect, each has unique advantages and disadvantages. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
