[sage-devel] Re: Poll: Making sage-mode a standard package

2012-05-29 Thread Keshav Kini
Ivan Andrus writes: > On May 25, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Ivan Andrus wrote: > >> Dear all sage and emacs (or not) users, >> >> Since I've been working on sage-mode a bit recently I thought I would look >> at trac and try to fix any sage-mode related bugs there. I found #2666 >> which wants to make

[sage-devel] Re: Poll: Making sage-mode a standard package

2012-05-29 Thread Ivan Andrus
On May 25, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Ivan Andrus wrote: > Dear all sage and emacs (or not) users, > > Since I've been working on sage-mode a bit recently I thought I would look at > trac and try to fix any sage-mode related bugs there. I found #2666 which > wants to make sage-mode a standard package.

[sage-devel] Re: echelonize sometimes fails

2012-05-29 Thread Nils Bruin
On May 29, 12:11 pm, Emil wrote: > Thanks! I'm trying to reproduce it, but haven't been successful so far. > > But in the meantime, it does seem slightly unsatisfactory that > something with an obvious deterministic algorithm can fail for random > reasons. And that this has been observed in a real

[sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.1.rc0 released

2012-05-29 Thread Keshav Kini
Jeroen Demeyer writes: > On 2012-05-29 13:42, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: >> What does the acronym "FAT" in "SAGE_FAT_BINARY" refer to? > > It's not an acronym, it's the word "fat". Maybe it is a binary For All Types of processors? :) -Keshav Join us in #sagemath on irc.freenode.net !

Re: [sage-devel] sage-5.0.1.rc0 released

2012-05-29 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-05-29 13:42, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > What does the acronym "FAT" in "SAGE_FAT_BINARY" refer to? It's not an acronym, it's the word "fat". On Linux x86 systems (either 32-bit or 64-bit), the MPIR binary is built with support for various kinds of processors. At run-time, the libr

Re: [sage-devel] Gap packages

2012-05-29 Thread David Roe
A number of people are working on transitioning Sage to git (see #13015), and the meaning of spkg will likely change dramatically in a way that affects 2 and 3. In particular, spkg install scripts for both standard and optional spkgs will be included in the sage repository, as will pointers to ups

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-29 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2012-05-29, mmarco wrote: > I have contacted the author of the kbmag package (which has no > copyright note at all), and he told me that "it is distributed under > no license, it is completely open source". I have asked him permission > to distribute it under the gpl license. So i have a legal

Re: [sage-devel] Re: bug in gap_packages-4.4.12.p1 (was: [GAP Forum] problem with AutomorphismGroup)

2012-05-29 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > An author to GAP's package "braid" suggests to switch to an officially > GAP-supported package "mapclass", which offers a superset of the > functionality. > Should we do this? I vote yes. (I assume the license is the same.) > > Dima > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-29 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:10 PM, mmarco wrote: > I have contacted the author of the kbmag package (which has no > copyright note at all), and he told me that "it is distributed under > no license, it is completely open source". I have asked him permission > to distribute it under the gpl license.

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-29 Thread mmarco
I have contacted the author of the kbmag package (which has no copyright note at all), and he told me that "it is distributed under no license, it is completely open source". I have asked him permission to distribute it under the gpl license. So i have a legal question: would it be enough if he gav

[sage-devel] Re: bug in gap_packages-4.4.12.p1 (was: [GAP Forum] problem with AutomorphismGroup)

2012-05-29 Thread Dima Pasechnik
An author to GAP's package "braid" suggests to switch to an officially GAP-supported package "mapclass", which offers a superset of the functionality. Should we do this? Dima On 2012-05-29, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Dmitrii (Dima) Pasechnik > Date:

Re: [sage-devel] sage-5.0.1.rc0 released

2012-05-29 Thread Justin C. Walker
On May 29, 2012, at 13:42 , Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > What does the acronym "FAT" in "SAGE_FAT_BINARY" refer to? Normally, "FAT" refers to a file format that contains executable images for multiple architectures. I think that for Sage, it refers to a binary that will run on multiple v

Re: [sage-devel] sage-5.0.1.rc0 released

2012-05-29 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 05/29/12 16:42, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > What does the acronym "FAT" in "SAGE_FAT_BINARY" refer to? > FAT Acronym Triplet (it just means fat, i.e. big) -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-deve

Re: [sage-devel] sage-5.0.1.rc0 released

2012-05-29 Thread Stephen Montgomery-Smith
What does the acronym "FAT" in "SAGE_FAT_BINARY" refer to? -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-dev

[sage-devel] Re: echelonize sometimes fails

2012-05-29 Thread Jason Grout
On 5/29/12 2:11 PM, Emil wrote: Thanks! I'm trying to reproduce it, but haven't been successful so far. But in the meantime, it does seem slightly unsatisfactory that something with an obvious deterministic algorithm can fail for random reasons. And that this has been observed in a real situatio

Re: [sage-devel] Re: echelonize sometimes fails

2012-05-29 Thread Emil
Thanks! I'm trying to reproduce it, but haven't been successful so far. But in the meantime, it does seem slightly unsatisfactory that something with an obvious deterministic algorithm can fail for random reasons. And that this has been observed in a real situation. Emil -- To post to this grou

Re: [sage-devel] introspection is slow

2012-05-29 Thread Justin C. Walker
On May 29, 2012, at 09:54 , Justin C. Walker wrote: > > On May 29, 2012, at 00:41 , Jonathan Bober wrote: > >> see http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/13057 >> >> This seems to be a bad regression. On reasonable machines it can take >> 5 seconds to get the docstring of an object by using

[sage-devel] Re: help test a new Python spkg

2012-05-29 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, May 28, 2012 11:01:56 PM UTC-7, Dan Drake wrote: > > Hello, > > At ticket #12321, I proposed that we exclude some of Python's self-tests > when we run spkg-check. I have a draft spkg that implements this. > Please test the spkg with Sage 5.0 or one of the 5.1 betas with: > > sage -

Re: [sage-devel] introspection is slow

2012-05-29 Thread Justin C. Walker
On May 29, 2012, at 00:41 , Jonathan Bober wrote: > see http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/13057 > > This seems to be a bad regression. On reasonable machines it can take > 5 seconds to get the docstring of an object by using '?'. Does anyone > have any idea what happened? I don't see any

[sage-devel] Re: echelonize sometimes fails

2012-05-29 Thread Nils Bruin
On May 29, 7:29 am, Emil wrote: > On 29 May 2012 15:21, William Stein wrote: > > > Can you give an example?  E.g., a matrix and a random seed? > > Not easily... If it is really necessary I can find the matrix that it > failed on. Although most of the time it works on this matrix... That would be

[sage-devel] sage-5.0.1.rc0 released

2012-05-29 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Dear Sage lovers, We're releasing Sage 5.0.1.rc0. Source archive: http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/release/sage-5.0.1.rc0/sage-5.0.1.rc0.tar Upgrade path: http://boxen.math.washington.edu/home/release/sage-5.0.1.rc0/sage-5.0.1.rc0/ Binaries can be found at: http://boxen.math.washington.

[sage-devel] Re: please complain

2012-05-29 Thread Jason Grout
On 5/27/12 2:27 PM, William Stein wrote: They are also redistributed copyrighted content, which is one of the categories when you file a complaint. What is the problem with copying something from trac? Do we have a license statement for material on trac? I guess if not, then it is all copyr

[sage-devel] Re: trac.sagemath.org

2012-05-29 Thread Jason Grout
On 5/28/12 5:20 PM, Benjamin Jones wrote: I think the blue background matches our various logos and sagemath.org a lot better than the old background color did, at least. Personally I like the new color theme, but I don't really have any justification for my purely personal preference. -Keshav

Re: [sage-devel] help test a new Python spkg

2012-05-29 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-05-28 23:01, Dan Drake wrote: > Hello, > > At ticket #12321, I proposed that we exclude some of Python's self-tests > when we run spkg-check. I have a draft spkg that implements this. > Please test the spkg with Sage 5.0 or one of the 5.1 betas with: > > sage -i -c http://sage.math.washin

Re: [sage-devel] echelonize sometimes fails

2012-05-29 Thread Emil
On 29 May 2012 15:21, William Stein wrote: > Can you give an example?  E.g., a matrix and a random seed? Not easily... If it is really necessary I can find the matrix that it failed on. Although most of the time it works on this matrix... (It is a matrix that has arisen in a genuine application

Re: [sage-devel] echelonize sometimes fails

2012-05-29 Thread William Stein
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012, Emil wrote: > Calling .echelonize on a rational matrix, I received: > > File "matrix_rational_dense.pyx", line 1432, in > sage.matrix.matrix_rational_dense.Matrix_rational_dense.echelonize > (sage/matrix/matrix_rational_dense.c:14327) > File "matrix_rational_dense.pyx", l

[sage-devel] Re: doctest coverage & testsuites

2012-05-29 Thread Sébastien Labbé
Hi, I think some years ago, I had a similar problem because the documentation of some of the functions were not using raw string : r""" """ instead of """ """ Sébastien -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sa

Re: [sage-devel] please complain

2012-05-29 Thread John W. Foster
On Sun, 2012-05-27 at 10:48 -0700, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > Here's what happens when you don't renew a domain name. Somebody gets > the domain, copies your site, but then makes the page slowly > degenerate into spam! http://www.sagetrac.org/ > > The company that rents this domain name is:

[sage-devel] echelonize sometimes fails

2012-05-29 Thread Emil
Calling .echelonize on a rational matrix, I received: File "matrix_rational_dense.pyx", line 1432, in sage.matrix.matrix_rational_dense.Matrix_rational_dense.echelonize (sage/matrix/matrix_rational_dense.c:14327) File "matrix_rational_dense.pyx", line 1583, in sage.matrix.matrix_rational_dense.Mat

[sage-devel] Re: Gap packages

2012-05-29 Thread mmarco
You are right, i didn't think about the license. Still, my point is valid even if we restrict it to GPL gap packages. On May 29, 12:54 pm, David Joyner wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:50 AM, mmarco wrote: > > One of the complains i have heard from my colleagues that use sage > > (and i have

[sage-devel] bug in gap_packages-4.4.12.p1 (was: [GAP Forum] problem with AutomorphismGroup)

2012-05-29 Thread Dima Pasechnik
-- Forwarded message -- From: Dmitrii (Dima) Pasechnik Date: 29 May 2012 12:29 Subject: Re: [GAP Forum] problem with AutomorphismGroup To: Markus Szymik Cc: Alexander Konovalov , GAP Forum Dear Markus, Thanks. I can confirm that this is a bug in  in Sage's gap_packages-4.4.12.p

Re: [sage-devel] Gap packages

2012-05-29 Thread David Joyner
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:50 AM, mmarco wrote: > One of the complains i have heard from my colleagues that use sage > (and i have noticed myself) is the lack of certain gap packages in the > sage distribution.  There is an spkg with some of them, but most are > missing. Also, it is not easy to fin

[sage-devel] Gap packages

2012-05-29 Thread mmarco
One of the complains i have heard from my colleagues that use sage (and i have noticed myself) is the lack of certain gap packages in the sage distribution. There is an spkg with some of them, but most are missing. Also, it is not easy to find documentation on how to install gap packages in the sa

[sage-devel] Re: please complain

2012-05-29 Thread Simon King
On 2012-05-29, Keshav Kini wrote: > Maarten Derickx writes: >> By the way. Your name might also be on that website. See >> http://www.sagetrac.org/sage_trac . > > Interesting - my name is not there. That suggests that they crawled trac > quite a while ago. Yep. They still locate me in Ireland,

[sage-devel] introspection is slow

2012-05-29 Thread Jonathan Bober
see http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/13057 This seems to be a bad regression. On reasonable machines it can take 5 seconds to get the docstring of an object by using '?'. Does anyone have any idea what happened? I don't see any changes to sage/misc/sagedoc.py or sage/misc/sageinspect.py i