[sage-devel] read some calculus?

2008-09-17 Thread William Stein
Hi, I hired a student (Elliott Brossard) this summer to write a nice web-based Calculus tutorial using sage. Obviously I intend to carefully read through it, but I don't have time to right now. One of you might. It's finished and is here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/elliottd/calct

[sage-devel] Re: limit evaluation bug

2008-09-17 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Dan Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found a bug in a limit evaluation: > > sage: f = sqrt(1-x^2) > sage: g = diff(f, x); g > -x/sqrt(1 - x^2) > sage: limit(g, x=1, dir='below') > +Infinity > > It's a semicircle, so the derivative should go to negative inf

[sage-devel] limit evaluation bug

2008-09-17 Thread Dan Drake
I found a bug in a limit evaluation: sage: f = sqrt(1-x^2) sage: g = diff(f, x); g -x/sqrt(1 - x^2) sage: limit(g, x=1, dir='below') +Infinity It's a semicircle, so the derivative should go to negative infinity on the right side. I'd file a trac ticket, but I'm not sure if this is know

[sage-devel] Re: tests hang with 3.1.2

2008-09-17 Thread mabshoff
On Sep 17, 8:43 pm, Dan Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, Hi Dan, > Last week my new computer arrived. It has a Core 2 Quad CPU, 4 gigs of > RAM, and is very shiny. Unfortunately, I've had trouble compiling and > testing Sage with it. :( > > I can compile 3.1.2 (using pbuild and make -

[sage-devel] Re: reopening Sage - Blender discussion

2008-09-17 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:23 PM, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:57 PM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I thought I'd mention that using ffmpeg and Sage/singular/gfan/tachyon >> I was able to finish the little pilot project I had in mind: taking a >>

[sage-devel] tests hang with 3.1.2

2008-09-17 Thread Dan Drake
Hello, Last week my new computer arrived. It has a Core 2 Quad CPU, 4 gigs of RAM, and is very shiny. Unfortunately, I've had trouble compiling and testing Sage with it. :( I can compile 3.1.2 (using pbuild and make -j4 was problematic, but we'll save that for later), but when I run 'make test',

[sage-devel] Re: Sage in url prefix

2008-09-17 Thread Jason Grout
Pavel Panchekha wrote: > The sage server currently runs in a twisted server. > > That's great - if it could run under mod_python, that would be even > better, but twisted is fine for now. > > However, it would be really helpful if I could run the sage server > under a url prefix. This wouldn't b

[sage-devel] Re: Applying for a Ph.D. to work on Sage

2008-09-17 Thread mhampton
Choosing a compatible advisor is very important, and if working on open-source/free software is important to you then you should bring up the issue very early on. The points made above are all very good too. Its probably best to figure out what you are most interested in working on, and then dec

[sage-devel] Re: reopening Sage - Blender discussion

2008-09-17 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:57 PM, mhampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I thought I'd mention that using ffmpeg and Sage/singular/gfan/tachyon > I was able to finish the little pilot project I had in mind: taking a > 5d Groebner fan, intersecting it with a hyperplane, rotating it in 4d, > and ani

[sage-devel] Re: reopening Sage - Blender discussion

2008-09-17 Thread mhampton
I thought I'd mention that using ffmpeg and Sage/singular/gfan/tachyon I was able to finish the little pilot project I had in mind: taking a 5d Groebner fan, intersecting it with a hyperplane, rotating it in 4d, and animating the projection into three dimensions. I am still struggling with the op

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.1.2.rc5/final released

2008-09-17 Thread mhampton
All tests passed on my intel mac (10.4). -M. Hampton On Sep 16, 11:43 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello folks, > > after 251 closed tickets here we go. This is rc5/final and likely > identical to the 3.1.2 release. There was an rc4 that never got > publicly announced since it had s

[sage-devel] Re: Applying for a Ph.D. to work on Sage

2008-09-17 Thread Ivan Andrus
On Sep 17, 2008, at 10:51 AM, William Stein wrote: > So the short answer is that you could (and should :-) ) > work on Sage a lot in nearly any Ph.D. program in the world. I guess my concern is really that I have known several professors who have the attitude of "why don't you just use Maple,

[sage-devel] Re: Sage in url prefix

2008-09-17 Thread Timothy Clemans
Hi, For clarification, are you asking for a way to have a base tag with your url(s) on every notebook page and that's all we need for url prefixes? As far as mod_python support goes there probably will not be plans to support it for several months and implementation would come much later. It wil

[sage-devel] Sage in url prefix

2008-09-17 Thread Pavel Panchekha
The sage server currently runs in a twisted server. That's great - if it could run under mod_python, that would be even better, but twisted is fine for now. However, it would be really helpful if I could run the sage server under a url prefix. This wouldn't be that hard - one would simply need t

[sage-devel] Re: Applying for a Ph.D. to work on Sage

2008-09-17 Thread iSAGE
I completely agree with others who have responded. Just wanted to add my two cents. If you are interested in computing intensive areas, then you might also want to consider other departments and application areas - computer science is one obvious possibility, but also some engineering departments

[sage-devel] Re: SD10 Accomodation Again

2008-09-17 Thread Franco Saliola
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Clement Pernet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi there, > > Bad news for the accomodation in Nancy: > > I called the Youth Hostel, and they do not have enough room for the > period of the SD10: a jazz festival and several other events are > happening in the same pe

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.1.2.rc5/final released

2008-09-17 Thread mabshoff
On Sep 17, 1:01 pm, "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael, Hi Bill, > #4028: Mike Hansen: doctest and improve sage/interfaces/axiom.py > [Reviewed by Michael Abshoff] > > was originally in 3.1.2.alpha4 but got removed somewhere along the > line. In trac is now says it's closed and "

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.1.2.rc5/final released

2008-09-17 Thread Bill Page
Michael, #4028: Mike Hansen: doctest and improve sage/interfaces/axiom.py [Reviewed by Michael Abshoff] was originally in 3.1.2.alpha4 but got removed somewhere along the line. In trac is now says it's closed and "Merged in Sage 3.1.2.alpha4" but I do not think that is actually true. Or did some

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.1.2.rc5/final released

2008-09-17 Thread mabshoff
On Sep 17, 10:09 am, "John Cremona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3.1.2 built and passed all tests on both machines, 32-bit ubuntu and > 64-bit Suse linux. > > I looked for something called 3.1.2.rc5 but only found 3.1.2.  Optimism!? Not really, rc4 passed tests everywhere minus some known issue

[sage-devel] Re: SD10 Accomodation Again

2008-09-17 Thread Clement Pernet
Hi there, Bad news for the accomodation in Nancy: I called the Youth Hostel, and they do not have enough room for the period of the SD10: a jazz festival and several other events are happening in the same period, and the Hostel already has several groups registered and confirmed. There is about

[sage-devel] Re: Formal Symbolic Expressions

2008-09-17 Thread Jason Merrill
On Sep 17, 12:37 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jason, > > Just a heads up -- your code above is going to become pointless when we switch > to using Ginac as a backend for symbolic manipulation, since Sage will no > longer > keep its own expression tree. Thanks for the heads

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.1.2.rc5/final released

2008-09-17 Thread John Cremona
3.1.2 built and passed all tests on both machines, 32-bit ubuntu and 64-bit Suse linux. I looked for something called 3.1.2.rc5 but only found 3.1.2. Optimism!? John 2008/9/17 mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On Sep 17, 4:11 am, Alex Ghitza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, > > Hi, > >> I

[sage-devel] Re: Formal Symbolic Expressions

2008-09-17 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > William Stein wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Jason Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Sep 17, 2:20 am, Jason Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's a monkeypatch that makes this work(ish) >>

[sage-devel] Re: Applying for a Ph.D. to work on Sage

2008-09-17 Thread John Cremona
Everything that William said about PhDs in the US applies in the UK too. In particular, entrance onto a PhD programme would be judged 99.9% on mathematical ability and potential. John Cremona 2008/9/17 William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Ivan Andrus <[EMAIL P

[sage-devel] Re: Applying for a Ph.D. to work on Sage

2008-09-17 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Ivan Andrus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I apologize for asking here since this probably isn't the best place, > but I've seen several people looking for students so I thought I'd > give it a shot the other way around. > > I graduated with a Master's (in Math) 3

[sage-devel] Re: Formal Symbolic Expressions

2008-09-17 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:37 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Jason Merrill > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Sep 17, 2:20 am, Jason Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Here's a monkeypatch that makes this work(ish) >>> >>> from sage.calculus.calculus import Symb

[sage-devel] Re: Formal Symbolic Expressions

2008-09-17 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Jason Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sep 17, 2:20 am, Jason Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Here's a monkeypatch that makes this work(ish) >>> >>> from sage.calculus.calculus import SymbolicExpression >>> class FormalSymbolic

[sage-devel] Re: make it clear that Sage is GPL

2008-09-17 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:35 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Sep 17, 4:26 am, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Ondrej, > >> > Interestingly enough that article resulted in 267 hits so far today >> > from the Czech republic and 66 from Slovakia, which is way abov

[sage-devel] Re: Formal Symbolic Expressions

2008-09-17 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Jason Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 17, 2:20 am, Jason Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Here's a monkeypatch that makes this work(ish) >> >> from sage.calculus.calculus import SymbolicExpression >> class FormalSymbolicExpression(SymbolicExpress

[sage-devel] Re: Formal Symbolic Expressions

2008-09-17 Thread Jason Merrill
On Sep 17, 2:20 am, Jason Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a monkeypatch that makes this work(ish) > > from sage.calculus.calculus import SymbolicExpression > class FormalSymbolicExpression(SymbolicExpression): >     def __init__(self,expr): >         self.expr = expr >         # just d

[sage-devel] Re: strangeness in "srange(0,1,0.1,include_endpoint=true)"

2008-09-17 Thread Jason Grout
Jason Grout wrote: > mabshoff wrote: >> vger reported the following odd behavior in #sage-devel. Looks like a >> bug to me. If so can someone open a ticket? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Michael >> >> -- >> | SAGE Version 3.1.2, Release Dat

[sage-devel] Re: strangeness in "srange(0,1,0.1,include_endpoint=true)"

2008-09-17 Thread Jason Grout
mabshoff wrote: > vger reported the following odd behavior in #sage-devel. Looks like a > bug to me. If so can someone open a ticket? > > Cheers, > > Michael > > -- > | SAGE Version 3.1.2, Release Date: 2008-09-16

[sage-devel] Re: mini talk during Software Freedom Day 2008

2008-09-17 Thread Alex Ghitza
Hi, 3 minutes is unbelievably short. However, since you asked for suggestions, here are some things that would be good to get across: - programming in Sage is programming in Python; no need to learn some arcane custom-built language in order to use Sage and contribute to it - the development mo

[sage-devel] Re: make it clear that Sage is GPL

2008-09-17 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sep 17, 11:39 am, "Mike Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe it was updated recently, but the very first lines... Just for the record, I edited this line on aug 24th. So, just bad timing i guess. h --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email t

[sage-devel] Sage 3.1.3 release cycle opened

2008-09-17 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, now that 3.1.2 is more or less out the door the work on 3.1.3 has started. I have updated the 3.1.3 milestone goals at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/milestone/sage-3.1.3 I am pretty sure we will not meet all those goals, but at least we can try. After the rather long 3.1.2 cyc

[sage-devel] Re: make it clear that Sage is GPL

2008-09-17 Thread mabshoff
On Sep 17, 4:26 am, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Ondrej, > > Interestingly enough that article resulted in 267 hits so far today > > from the Czech republic and 66 from Slovakia, which is way above > > average. So I guess even if the article is a little wrong here and > > ther

[sage-devel] Re: make it clear that Sage is GPL

2008-09-17 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:02 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Sep 17, 2:17 am, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I did a little advertisement for Sage on one Czech linux journal here: >> >> http://www.root.cz/clanky/softwarova-sklizen-17-9-2008/#sage >> >> B

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.1.2.rc5/final released

2008-09-17 Thread mabshoff
On Sep 17, 4:11 am, Alex Ghitza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Hi, > It built fine on 3 machines: > > - 32-bit dell laptop running ubuntu > - 64-bit 4-processor (AMD) running redhat of some sort > - 32-bit mac os x laptop > > Testing was also successful on the first two machines, and ongoing

[sage-devel] strangeness in "srange(0,1,0.1,include_endpoint=true)"

2008-09-17 Thread mabshoff
vger reported the following odd behavior in #sage-devel. Looks like a bug to me. If so can someone open a ticket? Cheers, Michael -- | SAGE Version 3.1.2, Release Date: 2008-09-16 | | Type notebook() for t

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.1.2.rc5/final released

2008-09-17 Thread Alex Ghitza
Hi, It built fine on 3 machines: - 32-bit dell laptop running ubuntu - 64-bit 4-processor (AMD) running redhat of some sort - 32-bit mac os x laptop Testing was also successful on the first two machines, and ongoing on the third (I'll report if anything goes amiss). There's one weird thing: ma

[sage-devel] Re: make it clear that Sage is GPL

2008-09-17 Thread mabshoff
On Sep 17, 2:17 am, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I did a little advertisement for Sage on one Czech linux journal here: > > http://www.root.cz/clanky/softwarova-sklizen-17-9-2008/#sage > > But they wrongly read from the Sage webpages, that Sage is using the > "Creative Co

[sage-devel] Re: make it clear that Sage is GPL

2008-09-17 Thread mabshoff
On Sep 17, 3:26 am, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Mike Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:21 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> But they wrongly read from the Sage webpages, that Sage is

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.1.2.rc5/final released

2008-09-17 Thread mabshoff
On Sep 17, 2:26 am, Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Georg S. Weber wrote: > > > Good morning, > > > to get more information on trac ticket #3758 "crypto -- sage -t -long > > devel/sage/sage/crypto/mq/sr.py fails on many machines", > > which hits e.g.

[sage-devel] Re: make it clear that Sage is GPL

2008-09-17 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Mike Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:21 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> But they wrongly read from the Sage webpages, that Sage is using the >>> "Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported". So sagemath we

[sage-devel] Re: make it clear that Sage is GPL

2008-09-17 Thread David Joyner
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I did a little advertisement for Sage on one Czech linux journal here: > > http://www.root.cz/clanky/softwarova-sklizen-17-9-2008/#sage > > But they wrongly read from the Sage webpages, that Sage is using the > "

[sage-devel] Re: mini talk during Software Freedom Day 2008

2008-09-17 Thread Harald Schilly
On Sep 17, 9:33 am, "Minh Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My current plan is to cover the above three CASes from a pedagogy > perspective, then talk about Sage as a CAS that assembles together > under a common interface ... 3 in 3 minutes sounds a bit too dense for me! I would focus on the w

[sage-devel] Re: make it clear that Sage is GPL

2008-09-17 Thread Mike Hansen
Hello, On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:21 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But they wrongly read from the Sage webpages, that Sage is using the >> "Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported". So sagemath webpage >> should clearly state that Sage is GPL, unless otherwise stated. > > Btw,

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.1.2.rc5/final released

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Georg S. Weber wrote: > Good morning, > > to get more information on trac ticket #3758 "crypto -- sage -t -long > devel/sage/sage/crypto/mq/sr.py fails on many machines", > which hits e.g. my Intel Mac with 2.0 GB RAM for the time being: > > Please could everyone wh

[sage-devel] Re: make it clear that Sage is GPL

2008-09-17 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I did a little advertisement for Sage on one Czech linux journal here: > > http://www.root.cz/clanky/softwarova-sklizen-17-9-2008/#sage > > But they wrongly read from the Sage webpages, that Sage is using the > "C

[sage-devel] make it clear that Sage is GPL

2008-09-17 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, I did a little advertisement for Sage on one Czech linux journal here: http://www.root.cz/clanky/softwarova-sklizen-17-9-2008/#sage But they wrongly read from the Sage webpages, that Sage is using the "Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported". So sagemath webpage should clearly state that

[sage-devel] mini talk during Software Freedom Day 2008

2008-09-17 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, Saturday 20 September 2008 is Software Freedom Day (at least in Melbourne, Australia). Further information about this event can be found at http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/melb I'll be volunteering to help out during the day, in collaboration with the Linux Users of Victoria group.