[sage-devel] Re: Sage 2.8.11 Release Announcement

2007-11-02 Thread William Stein
Hi, Regarding OSX 10.4, I did some further testing, and a clean build with the posted sage-2.8.11.tar works fine. However, doing "sage -upgrade" with the packages in 2.8.11 doesn't work. I also tried reverting the givaro package as Michael suggests below (i.e. installing the old one), and thou

[sage-devel] Sage 2.8.11 Release Announcement

2007-11-02 Thread mabshoff
[One last minute note: If you are on OSX 10.4 please read the OSX 10.4 build instructions] Sage 2.8.11: Release team: Michael Abshoff (chair), William Stein, Carl Witty While there were many bug fixes, performance improvements and features added the main goal of this release was to get Sage bui

[sage-devel] Re: 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 3, 12:46 am, "Joel B. Mohler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 02 November 2007 15:38, mabshoff wrote: > > > > The patch applied against rc1 passes with flying colors. You need to use > > > the second bundle on the ticket since the first bundle is already in (but > > > backed out).

[sage-devel] Re: Notebook bug: clicking left for traceback does not work on first click

2007-11-02 Thread William Stein
On 11/2/07, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the notebook, if you click at left for a traceback, the whole > traceback disappears. Repeating brings it back, then a third click > gives you the whole traceback. > > Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/

[sage-devel] Notebook bug: clicking left for traceback does not work on first click

2007-11-02 Thread Nick Alexander
In the notebook, if you click at left for a traceback, the whole traceback disappears. Repeating brings it back, then a third click gives you the whole traceback. Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/ 20071008 Firefox/2.0.0.8 'SAGE Version 2.8.9, Release Date:

[sage-devel] Re: 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread Joel B. Mohler
On Friday 02 November 2007 15:38, mabshoff wrote: > > The patch applied against rc1 passes with flying colors.  You need to use > > the second bundle on the ticket since the first bundle is already in (but > > backed out).  Maybe there is a correct way to back out the back out, but > > I don't kno

[sage-devel] Re: libPng.dylib

2007-11-02 Thread didier deshommes
On 11/2/07, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How did the meeting go? (There aren't any slides posted on that site, just a > list > of titles.) Did Sage get mentioned at all otherwise, or did it basically seem > irrelevant from the point of view of the CDI people, etc.? SAGE got menti

[sage-devel] There is now a Sage tax-deductible donation account

2007-11-02 Thread William Stein
Hello, I just wanted to let everybody know Sage received > $1000 in donations recently, so I was able to have the University of Washington setup a special account for Sage. Now anybody can easily make tax-deductible donations to be used to support Sage development. I put a link to the "UW dona

[sage-devel] Re: numpy vs. in-place optimizations

2007-11-02 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:22 PM, Carl Witty wrote: > On Nov 2, 11:25 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> :-(, but I have to concede to your logic. The line to change is 148 >> of coerce.pxi. Setting this value to 0 will turn them completely off. >> Other than numpy, (and the builtin l

[sage-devel] Re: 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 2, 7:39 pm, "Joel B. Mohler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 02 November 2007 10:45, mabshoff wrote: > > > On Nov 2, 12:45 pm, "Joel B. Mohler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Everything is possible, but I am fairly sure that the behavior of the > > doctests only changes if the patc

[sage-devel] Re: numpy vs. in-place optimizations

2007-11-02 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 2, 8:25 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/2/07, Carl Witty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 2, 11:25 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > :-(, but I have to concede to your logic. The line to change is 148 > > > of coerce.pxi. Setting th

[sage-devel] Re: numpy vs. in-place optimizations

2007-11-02 Thread William Stein
On 11/2/07, Carl Witty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 2, 11:25 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > :-(, but I have to concede to your logic. The line to change is 148 > > of coerce.pxi. Setting this value to 0 will turn them completely off. > > Other than numpy, (and the buil

[sage-devel] Re: numpy vs. in-place optimizations

2007-11-02 Thread Carl Witty
On Nov 2, 11:25 am, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > :-(, but I have to concede to your logic. The line to change is 148 > of coerce.pxi. Setting this value to 0 will turn them completely off. > Other than numpy, (and the builtin libraries), do we use any other > extension types? If th

[sage-devel] Re: 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:24:53 -0700, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I guess I just don't think permutation (which are functions) should >>> act on the left. It's repulsive to me.I guess there's just >>> not much more to say than that. >> Ok. I don't think that's a very

[sage-devel] Re: 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread Joel B. Mohler
On Friday 02 November 2007 10:45, mabshoff wrote: > On Nov 2, 12:45 pm, "Joel B. Mohler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Everything is possible, but I am fairly sure that the behavior of the > doctests only changes if the patch made it in. Can you check that your > patch applied against rc1 passes do

[sage-devel] Re: libPng.dylib

2007-11-02 Thread Fernando Perez
On 11/2/07, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:09:32 -0700, Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ps - at the NSF CDI meeting in Washington > > > > http://www4.ncsu.edu/~kaltofen/CDI_SYMNUM_Itinerary.html > > > > I made sure to have in my talk a slide about

[sage-devel] Re: numpy vs. in-place optimizations

2007-11-02 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:48 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On 11/2/07, Dan Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> numpy arrays are extremely flexible, with broadcasting, view >> semantics >> and in-place operations being the most important reason why. For >> example, if x is an array, then x[3:

[sage-devel] Re: libPng.dylib

2007-11-02 Thread William Stein
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:09:32 -0700, Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ps - at the NSF CDI meeting in Washington > > http://www4.ncsu.edu/~kaltofen/CDI_SYMNUM_Itinerary.html > > I made sure to have in my talk a slide about SAGE and to point out its > goals and importance. I didn't have m

[sage-devel] Re: libPng.dylib

2007-11-02 Thread Fernando Perez
On 11/2/07, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, that's very very nice. OK, I would really like > to see that implemented. Maybe Fernando Perez could > tell us how to hook into IPython to make that happen Should be fairly straightforward. In iplib.py, around line 500, you'll fi

[sage-devel] Re: libPng.dylib

2007-11-02 Thread William Stein
On 11/2/07, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 2, 6:33 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:26:13 -0700, Justin C. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > So there are pros and cons to this suggested fix, which have to be > > carefully considered.

[sage-devel] Re: numpy vs. in-place optimizations

2007-11-02 Thread William Stein
On 11/2/07, Dan Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > numpy arrays are extremely flexible, with broadcasting, view semantics > and in-place operations being the most important reason why. For > example, if x is an array, then x[3:5] is a view of part of x, and > I can adjust the entries in jus

[sage-devel] Re: numpy vs. in-place optimizations

2007-11-02 Thread Dan Christensen
Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is due to the inplace operator stuff using refcounts to > determine if it's safe to mutate. The simple workaround is to not use > numpy arrays of SAGE objects. Another question is why would one do so > (i.e. what is lacking in the SAGE line

[sage-devel] Re: libPng.dylib

2007-11-02 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 2, 6:33 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:26:13 -0700, Justin C. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > >> Well, it also hits us on Linux, so I still think it should happen. > >> malb's problem with firefox is just one example where that happene

[sage-devel] Re: libPng.dylib

2007-11-02 Thread William Stein
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:26:13 -0700, Justin C. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, it also hits us on Linux, so I still think it should happen. >> malb's problem with firefox is just one example where that happened >> and he just fixed it in that special case, but not as clean and >> general

[sage-devel] Re: 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread William Stein
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:24:53 -0700, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I guess I just don't think permutation (which are functions) should >> act on the left. It's repulsive to me.I guess there's just >> not much more to say than that. > > Ok. I don't think that's a very good attitude to enforce,

[sage-devel] Re: 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread boothby
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, William Stein wrote: > > On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:08:40 -0700, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, William Stein wrote: >>> On 11/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Under the way I've implemented this, the action on the list [1,...,n] is trivially isomorphic

[sage-devel] Re: 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread Joel B. Mohler
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 07:45:34AM -0700, mabshoff wrote: > > mabshoff: Are you sure you ran doc-tests with the *patched* version of > > sage? > > Because that doc-test wasn't even in the vanilla version. > > > > Everything is possible, but I am fairly sure that the behavior of the > doctests o

[sage-devel] Re: [fricas-devel] Re: Axiom Wiki and Portal are moving

2007-11-02 Thread Bill Page
On 11/1/07, Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > Bill Page wrote: > ... > > new sites now. They can be found at: > > > > http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org > > > > and > > > > http://axiom-portal.newsynthesis.org > > > ... > Bill, I must admit that I have doubts concerning your migration > tactic. A

[sage-devel] Re: 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread Mike Hansen
> Now we are getting somewhere, maybe. I'm thinking of the > natural (to me!) right action and you're thinking > of the left action got by inverting the permutation and acting > in the natural way :-). > > I guess I just don't think permutation (which are functions) should > act on the left. It'

[sage-devel] Re: 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 2, 12:45 pm, "Joel B. Mohler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 02 November 2007 00:17, mabshoff wrote: > > > #1032: Latex'ing variable names is more robust and consistent (Joel > > Mohler) - this one was actually backed out again - see the ticket for > > comment > > It's possible th

[sage-devel] [Spam] Re: [sage-devel] 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread Joel B. Mohler
On Friday 02 November 2007 00:17, mabshoff wrote: > #1032: Latex'ing variable names is more robust and consistent (Joel > Mohler) - this one was actually backed out again - see the ticket for > comment It's possible that I'm totally screwing up my branches on my personal machine, but I don't thi

[sage-devel] Re: 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread mabshoff
A short outlook: People on OpenSuSE 10.2 should know the following: [09:33] Hmph. I cannot get yast to tell me what the g77- package is named. *grmbl* [09:33] Which SuSE release? [09:34] You should probably install gfortran [09:34] 10.3 no longer ships g77 or g95, but gfortran. [09:34] Open

[sage-devel] Re: 2.8.11.rc1 released

2007-11-02 Thread John Cremona
It looks to me as though there are some crossed wires here. The permutation is acting on *any* list of length 5 by permuting the indices of the elements (taken as 1..5 rather than python-standard 0..4 but still). In the example you are using the entries in the list happen to also be the numbers