Re: [regext] Proposed update to draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai

2023-08-03 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Hi, If we’re going to stand firm on the current working group consensus, then I believe the question to be answered is why EPP is special and shouldn’t be required to align with accepted practice? What's accepted practice? We have phone numbers, postal addresses and email addresses in wh

Re: [regext] Proposed update to draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai

2023-08-06 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Thursday, 3 August 2023 17:48:19 CEST writes: On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 10:49 AM Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: Hi, ... IMHO, it's more nuanced than that. Text-capable phones and all-ASCII email addresses can be verified via automated processes, and there are some regular processes in both th

Re: [regext] Proposed update to draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai

2023-08-06 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Thursday, 3 August 2023 20:14:41 CEST writes: On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 1:23 PM Gould, James wrote: So, rollback to draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai-17 with the concept of a transition period removed and inclusion of "at least one of the email values MUST be an ASCII address"? Doesn't that put us ba

[regext] Wording suggestion for draft-regext-epp-eai

2023-11-08 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Hi, I've tried a few times to write something. I fail at writing anything involving alternate addresses. My problem is that I think that if someone wants to use EAI and is required to supply an ASCII alternative, then there's a decent chance that they'll forward the ASCII alternative to their

Re: [regext] status of draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai

2024-02-28 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Murray S. Kucherawy writes: Hi Andrew, Apologies for the delay processing this one. I'm digging my way out of this December backlog. I'm neither Andrew nor you, but that backlog seems familiar ;) My plan is to get it reviewed by an I18N expert in its current form. I'm pushing to get that

Re: [regext] Wording suggestion for draft-regext-epp-eai

2024-02-28 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Hi, I suggested some wording changes several months ago (new wording in sections 3 and 6.2). It took me several tries to put together that wording, and I quite like it: I think the database check requirement takes care of John's worries in a practical way. Arnt I fail at writing anything in

Re: [regext] Wording suggestion for draft-regext-epp-eai

2024-02-28 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Hi, that makes sense to me. But after I sent mail earlier today, I realised that there should perhaps be an explicit error code to say "unknown error related to storing that address". I'll update and send you suggested text off-list. Not sure whether the revised text will contain any MUSTs,

[regext] Re: draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai update

2024-06-12 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Hi, All-ASCII addresses are sort of optional in EPP already… If you want to use 名字@例子.中国 as a contact address, all you need to do is open to your registrar's web site, register a domain and tick the checkbox labelled something like "keep my email address private". The registrar will provide a

[regext] Re: RESTful EPP Charter side meeting Thursday 13:00

2024-07-25 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Hi, I've attended the meetings since Prague but am not an EPP person. Permit me to offer a different perspective, based on what you've been saying about the other topics of discussion. When you've talked about EPP during those meetings, you talked about the data model, the commands, but you

[regext] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai-21.txt

2024-09-03 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
I want to digress on one point here. John C Klensin writes: (1) As you know, I personally favor the idea that, if non-ASCII email addresses are to be used in a global context, all-ASCII alternatives should be available. This sounds so plausible, but it hinges on that global context. There's i

[regext] Re: WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai (was: WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-rir-search-09)

2024-11-18 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
James Galvin writes: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai/22/ Please also take this message as a reminder to indicate your support or any question or concerns you might have. Since I've been critical about some aspects of older revisions, I'll just state for the record

[regext] Re: WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai (was: WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-rir-search-09)

2024-11-18 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Hollenbeck, Scott writes: Please note that I have a comment from Joseph Yee that needs to be addressed if there's no objection to do so. Why does it need to be addressed? EPP doesn't even try to tell you that a contact object will be invalidated if the domain is transferred, or that a contact