Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-24 Thread Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches
Years ago, I remember hearing an outback 240 V transformer making all sorts of noise on an old well pump like 30+ years old when the pump was replaced, the transformer calm down that would be my vote Dana Orzel - d...@solarwork.com - 208.721.7003 On Jan 24, 2025, at 7:02 AM, Steve Higgins via RE

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-24 Thread Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches
Well, John, that's strikes 1,2 and 3 for me; I can't think of anything else causing the noise.

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-24 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Hi JohnA 26 year old pump?  I’m going out on a limb here but I think that’s could be your issue. I know that transformers make all sorts of crazy noise if the hz are not in spec. If the pump wasn’t operating at the correct rpm ( bearings or whatever causing resistance) could that cause the issue yo

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-24 Thread Blair May via RE-wrenches
John we have had quite cold temps here in maine. Have you had this issue over the summer or is this a recent issue? What is the flow rate prior to the check valve at the pressure tank? Remove it from the Check valve at the pressure tank and see if your noise goes away. You checked the basics th

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-23 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
John: Sorry, my previous post went out prematurely. The question is: how bad is the noise? I’ve heard buzzing to some degree or another from most transformers. Is the noise level the same without any covers in place? Pumps lose efficiency over time. Could the pump be drawing more power? If the

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-23 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
Ear plugs? William Miller Miller Solar.com 805-438-5600 www.millersolar.com On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 7:44 PM John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > The only thing I could find in the whole system that was not up to snuff > was incomplete separation of ne

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-23 Thread John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches
The only thing I could find in the whole system that was not up to snuff was incomplete separation of neutrals and grounds in the sub-panel. In other words more than one ground to neutral bond. But the fact remains that this system worked flawlessly for 26 years! I also removed the ground wire fr

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-23 Thread John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches
Steve, I took my scope meter today and checked wave forms at all points. All were clean sine waves. I checked the breaker connections and all connections back to the inverter and all were tight. Voltage drop when pump kicked on was small and only about 1 volt when running. Amp were 12 on both legs

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-23 Thread Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches
That's strike one, I get two more. On 1/22/2025 10:31 PM, John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches wrote: Christopher, Update on the Transformer Humming.  Installed a new PSX-240 from Kirk and it is LOUDER than the T-240 that I took out. I have a call into the well driller to see if they have a record

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-23 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Are the amps leg the same?JayOn Jan 22, 2025, at 9:29 PM, Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches wrote:How do their clocks run?   Is the Xfmer quiet down when the generator runs? If you have an O-scope, check the output waveform off the inverter. My guess is that the output waveform will be deformed, caus

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-22 Thread John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches
Christopher, Update on the Transformer Humming. Installed a new PSX-240 from Kirk and it is LOUDER than the T-240 that I took out. I have a call into the well driller to see if they have a record of the pump size or other details. When connected directly to the grid via transfer switch, still loud

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-22 Thread Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches
John, If you need a T240 (internal or external), I have a few used ones (and maybe a new one) in storage. Howie On Wed, Jan 22, 2025, 10:14 AM Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > I could be a loose electrical or mechanical connection. It's been > inst

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-22 Thread Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches
I could be a loose electrical or mechanical connection. It's been installed for a while and connections could have loosened up from expansion and contraction. On 1/18/2025 9:06 AM, John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches wrote: Hi Wrenches,   I have a customer with an SW4024 installed in 2003 with t

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-19 Thread Blair May via RE-wrenches
John have u recently upgraded firmware. This has been an issue w/ the Schneider XWpro inverters off grid applications. Probably not an issue here but FYI. As for transformers Sola volt is what I usually use but Tformers are not too smart. Tump Blair "Tump" May On Sat, Jan 18, 2025, 9:06 AM John Bl

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-18 Thread Dan Fink via RE-wrenches
When I tried to order an Outback T240 last fall, my distributor (CED Greentech) called Outback and was told they have none in stock because it doesn't sell many units, but they were going to do a limited production run this February. I went with the Victron instead. Dan Fink Owner, Buckville Ener

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-18 Thread Bradley Bassett via RE-wrenches
I think this Victron uses a toroid which is more efficient. It's sort of like the ones AEE used to sell. Maybe the efficiency is not so important for a pump as it would be for continuous use. Victron Autoformer

Re: [RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-18 Thread Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches
John, I have a new Outback 120/240 xformer if you need it. Contact me off list. On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 9:06 AM John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hi Wrenches, > I have a customer with an SW4024 installed in 2003 with the Trace T220 > transformer fo

[RE-wrenches] 120-240 Transformer loud vibration and humming.

2025-01-18 Thread John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches
Hi Wrenches, I have a customer with an SW4024 installed in 2003 with the Trace T220 transformer for her well pump. Recently it has started making a lot of noise when the well pump comes on. I checked the current on the well pump and it seems to be in the normal range. I have never had a transfo