Re: [RBW] Re: New "budget" Riv in Summer 2013?

Soma sells their fancy lugged Stanyan for $700 ish, so I'd guess thats about as cheap as lugs can get. Below that youre in a very crowded market. Both Soma and Surly sell very sensible frames at the 4-600 price point. Pete (with a Soma Double Cross Disc on order to replace my LHT) in CT -- Yo

[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride

So let me get this straight. There were 10 of these made IIRC and only one person has fessed up to receiving theirs, and hardly any pictures? Something's fishy. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on

[RBW] Re: Coral on my head

I have Bern that I use for winter - complete with fuzzy earflap liner. It's way too hot for anything over 40 deg. On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 8:57:04 AM UTC-4, Mojo wrote: > > Whip boy that looks like a sweat bucket for the warm season! -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride

some point > we'll have a production model (meaning I think it is a good design). The > specials have a Riv badge and a Protovelo decal---although Thomas's went > out before decaling, so I sent him a decal and instructions. All of the > specials get a single top-mounted dec

Re: [RBW] Re: New "budget" Riv in Summer 2013?

I've never used any disc brakes, so I cant comment on performance, but one advantage of cable discs is that you can use any normal, standard-pull brake lever - brifter, mtb, inverse, guidonnet, etc.. This is why the 'cross and road disc bikes now hitting the shows use mostly cable discs. This w

Re: [RBW] Re: New "budget" Riv in Summer 2013?

lectronic brifter (for either Campy EPS or Shimano Di2) they had designed > with Formula. > > On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 7:23:00 AM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: >> >> I've never used any disc brakes, so I cant comment on performance, but >> one advantage of c

Re: [RBW] Re: New "budget" Riv in Summer 2013?

I would LOVE if Riv could use their clout with Nitto to get them to make a removable faceplate quill stem. The bar (un)wrapping (and inevitable scratching) with quill stems is the one thing I dislike about them. I know there are or have been some versions of this out there, but none with Nitto

Re: [RBW] Re: New "budget" Riv in Summer 2013?

Funny you mention that! I was just today looking at the Cowbell for my Soma DC build, and thought they might be nice on my Rivs too if not for the clamp size. Now, if we could only convince Salsa to make then in silver! Off to the Salsa forums to start a thread. Pete (never satisfied) in CT

[RBW] Nitto Noodle (B177) questions

My 46cm Noodles actually have unequal sweeps. I always thought this was in my head, but I actually measured it the other day. Bike has never been in an incident that could have caused it, and I've suspected it from day one. Once I'm on a ride and have my mind on other things, I forget about it a

[RBW] Re: Shocking Riv-ish developments at an LBS near me...

I was just thinking about a similar thing. I seriously doubt Trek keeps the lights on at Trek world HQ selling Madones. For all the angst over the race-centric bike industry I'd guess 99.9% of the 15.7 million bikes sold in the US in 2011 were comfort, hybrid or MTB. Heck, 4.7 million of those

[RBW] Dyno - SP Dynamo Hub

Glad to hear your positive experience. I have one of these on order for my commuter. Common wisdom seems to be that the SP is the same as the VO and Supernova. VO stopped selling theirs after a couple of months due to quality issues. I've never heard of quality issues with the SP branded ones

[RBW] Dyno - SP Dynamo Hub

Kelly- Do you have the SD or SV model? From my understanding of SP's nomenclature the "V" is the non-disc and the "D" is the 6 hole disc version. Also the "S" indicated the small wheel version, correct? Any feedback on low speed behavior of the S hub? I ordered the 700c wheel version, I believe

[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

David I (think) I have a set of NOS 610's in the parts box if you find out the 750 are too long. The original 610 was forged, and has a more classic look, vs the new Grand Compes which are CNCd IIRC. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Another coroplast bar bag

Well done. I like the random graphic elements. Reminds me of things made from old sailcloth. BTW, wouldn't it be Bar BOX? Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.

[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

the Hilsen > effective brake reach is 65. > > David > Charlotte, NC > > On Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:02:38 PM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote: >> >> David >> I (think) I have a set of NOS 610's in the parts box if you find out the >> 750 are too long. T

[RBW] New Kid's Bikes

Many here are often lamenting the lack of good kids bikes. Apparently Linus showed a couple of new kid's models at Interbike this week: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3RfCWhCYAAXeq7.jpg:large

Re: [RBW] New Kid's Bikes

piece > crank and decent component group is hard to find in a "classic" looking > kids bike. > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Peter Pesce > > wrote: > >> >> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UUbLZqYyjQ4/UFx6SNBqAyI/ACI/9FRfqmvSXc8/s1

[RBW] Re: Grant on a blog (not bike related blog)

I actually wore one this summer to do yard work in the sweltering heat. If soaked in cool water (and, better yet, put in the freezer for 10 minutes!) it makes working outdoors much more bearable! On Friday, September 21, 2012 12:00:45 AM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > > Since I m

[RBW] Re: Which bike next....?

+1 on the Double Cross. I just bought one to replace my LHT which was too heavy duty and a bit too small. The Soma bikes seem to have slightly nicer tubes and finish than the Surlys, in my limited experience. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

[RBW] Re: Any commuters here?

I commute most days, but not on mt Rivs. The ride isn't that long - 3 miles - and is not really conducive to "enjoying" the bike. That said, I still decided to replace my LHT with a Double Cross to get a nicer ride... -Pete in CT On Monday, September 24, 2012 12:34:58 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote

[RBW] Re: Anyone ride a Riv-ish double crank setup?

One thing you could do more cheaply than a new crank is go with a 34 t cassette in back. You might have an MTB derailer lying around, and even if your buying new the cassette and RD woould be less than a new crank, unless of course you insist on Ultegra quality. -"Big Cog" Pete (mind your spel

[RBW] Re: First commute -- Mystery Bike!

Hooray! Pics! Fantastic bike. That thing just oozes comfort! -Pete in CT On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:06:43 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: > > Finally got the Mystery Bike built up (still no fenders, though -- > working on the right fender/tire/brake combo), and took it for its maiden > voyage/fi

[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Suggestions?

How does the width of the 46cm Cowbells compare to the 46cm Noodles? I'm really interested in trying the 'bells on my new commuter... it's threadless so the 31.8 is no problem. Thanks, Pete in CT On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 12:45:16 PM UTC-4, lukeheller wrote: > > I second the vote for the SALS

[RBW] Re: Rode my Giant Defy road bike today because...

I bought my new Soma Double Cross fork with a 400mm steerer tube - you could have flown a flag from that thing! In my case, I have an 82 cm saddle height and a 62cm frame was the biggest they make, so I wanted extra insurance in being able to get my bars up level with the saddle. I cut a good

[RBW] Re: lights

It's hard to beat a dynamo for reliability or convenience, but a full dyno set up is still a bit of an investment if you won't be using it regularly. However, you mention "touring" so it could be that even if you do most of your riding in daylight, not having to worry about batteries while you a

[RBW] Re: Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

I actually have both 46 Noodles and 45 Randos. Surprisingly, even though I'm 6'3" I find the Randos more comfortable despite their being only 38cm at the hoods. Go figure. I use the drops less than 1% of the time, so I can't really comment. Also I ride almost 100% paved road, but I can see the

[RBW] Re: lights

I have a 3 mile commute on lit city streets and battery lights will easily suffice. I used a PB Superflash rear and 2W Blaze in front for 2 years with no ptoblem. Even though the beam pattern of the Blaze wasn't ideal, I loved that it had a psycho flash mode for daytime riding. Nonetheless I u

[RBW] Re: lights

Kelly In the 9 miles I've ridden it so far it's very nice! I have the PD-8 so no clutch on mine. I have no previous experience with any other dyno hub to compare it to, but I was really surprised taking it out of the box how small and light it was. Its barely larger than the XT hub that was on t

Re: [RBW] Re: lights

I buy DOT reflective tape at the auto parts store. It has alternating red and white sections so I can cut pieces of the proper color for front or rear reflectors. The adhesive is very tenacious, too. The white color blends very nicely with aluminum parts. I even found a spot on the back of my h

Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions

I think you can buy individual BQ issues right from their website. Regarding the SP hub, I have the PD-8 on my commuter, but have only had it a month so cannot comment on durability. Initial impressions are that it is built perfectly well given its price. I'm sure it's not SON quality, but at h

[RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

Ah yes, good point. Forgot to mention that the SP hub also uses the Shimano connector. That was a factor for me as it makes it much easier to share the wheel among bikes. -Pete in CT On Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:45:41 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: > > I like the Shimano connector better

[RBW] Re: New/old magnets at Rivendell

Went to order a magnet and patch, but $8 shipping on $12 goods is silly. I'd order a lot more from Riv if they'd fix their shipping rate structure. Maybe if I send them a good old fashioned "self-addressed stamped envelope" from the pre-internet days? -Pete in CT On Friday, November 2, 2012 1:

[RBW] Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?

Wasn't my Riv, but rode my commuter to vote on the way to work. It was 29 degrees at 6:45 AM when I left the house, so not many bikes there! Not many people at all really , so it took me all of 5 minutes to vote. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Keeping your neck warm

I have a fleece neck gaiter from lands end (one of those things you buy to get over the free shipping threshold) that is great below 32 deg, but too warm above that. How about a section of the thigh cut from otherwise worn out wool leggings, or, for that matter, a neck salvaged from a otherwise

[RBW] Go fast bike: San Marcos?

I too tried a Sam as a go fast and decided to look elsewhere. I currently have my QB set up for minimalist rides. The Rodeo is clearly the number one choice, but barring that the SM seems nice if you are not in the 2TT size range. Double top tubes and going fast are just not synonymous in my mi

[RBW] Re: Go fast bike: San Marcos?

Agreed. But for me at least, "go fast" is purely a feel, as nothing with me aboard will be going "fast" by any objective measure! It's more about a lively and responsive quality that I don't think is purely related to weight or anything in particular. My Sam just never felt anything but stout,

[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle

Boy, it's pretty easy to come up with $300 in my shopping cart, even though there's not a single thing I "need"! If I won, I'd probably basically end up with a Roadeo fattened-up to hold me. With fancy paint, of course... My country and utility bike needs are pretty much covered already at this

[RBW] Re: Custom Frame Raffle

+1 on Andrew's query. Does a gift cert count? Also, do you get the 5% rebate on gift certificates you purchase? (I'm pretty sure there's no rebate on GC's when you redeem them, but correct me if I'm wrong) -Pete in CT On Friday, December 7, 2012 1:46:15 PM UTC-5, BSWP wrote: > > That would al

[RBW] Re: Advice on a possible Sam purchase for a new Riv buyer

The question is, what do you want your new bike to do that one of your current bikes doesn't do, or do well? You may in fact want a Riv, but maybe not a Sam, or maybe not at all. What's you most pressing need? Unless you have lots of money and storage space I wouldnt buy a bike because "they sou

Re: [RBW] Where have all the Riv-diamond braze-ons gone?

My QB, bafflingly, doesn't even have a proper fender boss on the rear brake bridge. Everything is built to a price. (That being said, the QB is a dream of a bike and I'd be happy with it even if it had one fork leg and no seat tube!) -Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are su

[RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

I've got a pair of Marathon Supremes, a new Noddle, and some Not-So-Tights, plus random other stuff. I thought of going the gift certificate route, but prefer to get "stuff" in the mail as opposed to promises of future stuff. My custom would probably be a Roadeo-lmost set up to fit 650b with lo

[RBW] Re: And the winner is...

Congrats! Have fun with it! (... and now back to reality for me!) -Pete in CT On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:00:56 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Liesl Chatman!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on

Re: [RBW] Re: Okay I get it now.

One advantage of the front-mount solution to consider is that having your dog in front of you will allow you to talk to and pet him/her etc and thus help ease any anxiety. I have trianed my 15 lb terrier to ride happily in a front wald basket (either rack-supported or with the wald struts -he's

Re: [RBW] Quickbeam/Simple One Gearing Ranges?

I have the 40/32 and 16/19 on my QB and have a couple of observations. First, I run the 40/16 most of the time and can climb much more than I ever thought possible in that range. Second, the 32/19 feels much lower than i thought it would. Also, you can always put a 22 on the flip side of the Dos

Re: [RBW] Quickbeam/Simple One Gearing Ranges?

There seem to be two kinds of strategy with the 2x2 set ups. Some, like Colin, go for essentially two gears, as far apart a practical keeping the matched tooth difference. He's done a TON more riding than I have with this set up so it's obviously very effective! Others try to get 3 or 4 differe

Re: [RBW] Quickbeam/Simple One Gearing Ranges?

y abandoned the bike near > a dumpster with the usual "free to good home" sign. > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Peter Pesce > > wrote: > >> There seem to be two kinds of strategy with the 2x2 set ups. Some, like >> Colin, go for essentially tw

Re: [RBW] Quickbeam/Simple One Gearing Ranges?

I'm curious how > others use their multiple fixed gears. > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Peter Pesce > > wrote: > >> One thing that has always appealed to me about Rivs was their >> versatility. I like that the bikes allow for opportunities, enable mult

[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes

I had DC 750 centerpulls on my "side-pull" Sam for a while. (Pics are around here somewhere. Will post) They worked really well, looked nice (i'm a sucker for symmetry) and cleared a 45mm fender and 35mm Pasela with ease. The rear cable hanger must be improvised, obviously, so I used one of the

[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes

I don't find the difference in stopping power, only lever feel. The long tektros result on more squish at the lever for me, even though the centerpulls technically have more parts and joints to impart play. I've never had a bike not stop due to brake system choice. But I dont ride in technical

[RBW] Re: new photos of Sam sporting center pull brakes

Some pics of my Sam with center pulls http://flic.kr/s/aHsjE6pq6F -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups

[RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas

I second CETMA. Solid stuff. I have one on my commuter. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroup

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

The Soma Stanyan is lugged and about $750 IIRC. I'm guessing that's pretty much the floor for a decent lugged frame. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas

Not sure how the 25lb pack thing is relevant. The OP said he wanted to carry a case of beer on his front rack. On Monday, February 25, 2013 10:02:55 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > I have really enjoyed the links and references on this thread. Throwing > out a usage consideration, though. It's e

[RBW] Re: Front Rack ideas

Minh, I personally don't really like front loads, perhaps because I've never tried it on a bike optimized for it. I've tried baskets. rando bags. even the platrack/slickersack combo, but I particularly dislike the way the front wheel flops over as soon as you put a load on it. The only thin

[RBW] Re: FS Feeler 63cm Roadeo RCP

Oh boy. My size and the right price. Well, the frame is the right price at least. But if I bought it the resulting divorce would be very costly! -Pete in CT On Monday, February 25, 2013 1:34:37 PM UTC-5, rperks wrote: > > As described below, this is a great bike that needs to find a new home.

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

Agreed. Ugh. In the quest to make a "budget" Riv, what exactly are the qualities they are trying to deliver at a budget price, and what exactly can be given up to get there? If you are trying to deliver the Riv ride and fit, great. Then do it in a form that allows you to deliver those qualiti

Re: [RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

I have a LHT and it too feels dead unloaded. I'm thinking it's somewhat related to Jan Heine's thoughts on frame flex and responsiveness. The LHT frame seems overly stiff unloaded, as it's built to haul, but comes to life (a bit, at least) for me when some weight is on it. Kind of like a pickup

[RBW] Re: New Soma photo (with matching fork!)

Seems to me it might be a matter of paint. Grant mentioned in that recent interview that he was hoping to sell his new city bike for around $750, unpainted. People seem to generally agree that it cost around $300 (retail) to paint a bike. The Maxway Sam is $1000, so that makes perfect sense. If

[RBW] Re: Sackville BarSack & headlight compatibility?

I did a "BarSack hack" and mount the 'Sack to my Mark's Rack. Didn't like the idea of having to get the Nitto thing that's a total mono-tasker. Seems a bit un-Riv-ish to me, actually. My light (B&M Ixon) mounts to the front tab of the rack, so there's no interference. (Sorry, I know this isn't r

[RBW] Re: Component Question

If the Yves is basically a Sam with a mixte-tube, then you should have no problem. Aside from durability, I think MTB drivetrains are mainly about having enough chain wrap capacity to use a really small stump-puller front ring. The ONLY thing I can think of is some front deraillers have a very de

[RBW] Re: Zefal HPX from Riv?

I'm not sure how the automatic head is supposed to work given the picture on the box. You need something to push the pin on the valve down to let air in - in either presta or schraeder mode. I have the HPX classic and you can see here there is a pointy-thing inside the valve head that pushes th

[RBW] Re: New England Riv Ride?

I'm in southwestern CT (Norwalk to be exact) and might be able to join for a bit. Originally from RI, so I know and have visited a lot of the places on the "Maritime" segment, but not on a bike, so it would be very interesting. The traffic isn't so bad along the "shore" in October. Keep us posted

[RBW] The New Green Sam

Not to start THAT discussion again, but that 56 looks seriously over-tubed IMHO. I'm glad my 60 Sam is singletubeorange. I think the Utube is polarizing, and can't imagine why Riv wants to make it harder to sell bikes than it already seems to be these days. Though, in truth, when your riding y

[RBW] Re: Was gonna buy a Riv but didnt...

I don't think it's so hard to imagine buying a bike from someone other than Riv. Are we all really sharing our justifications for "cheating" on Riv with another company? :) First, I am what seems to be an atypical Riv owner, at least based on this group. My Sam is by far the nicest (and, by a fa

[RBW] San Marcos Selling

Per the Riv site: "We're down to two 54s as of July 22. More in a few months" So they got in 15 on the 12th, and in 10 days are down to 2? I'm guessing a bunch were pre-sold, but wither way I'm glad they are a hit! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: San Marcos Selling

Oh. I interpreted it to mean all they had left of the 15 was two 54's.(seeing as how Ri'vs seem to sell out in the big sizes first) It didn't occur to me they might mean they have only two 54's but still have 5 each of the 59's and 63's. My bad if the excitement was premature. -- You received t

[RBW] Re: Cracked B.17 Tension Bolt-- What to do?

In the absolute worst case, you can always send it back to Brooks and have them repair it. It won't be free, but you won't have lost your well-broken-in saddle either. I'm sure even if you tried a DIY and botched it (not a major botch, but a minor one) Brooks would bail you out in the end. They

[RBW] Re: Recommendations for summer-weight wool?

It's pretty common to find Ibex, Icebreaker and Smartwool stuff on sale with a bit of patience. Probably easier in August! Ibex quality is great, but their sizing and cut is often a bit odd, so it's important to try before you buy if possible. -- You received this message because you are subsc

[RBW] Re: How much should a bike cost?

It should cost as much as the market will bear. Bike building is a for-profit enterprise, not a charity, and there is no morally-correct value to a bike. That being said, I do agree that there is a place for value judgments in HOW a company makes the bike and sells it, that involves labor practic

[RBW] Re: New Google Groups

Loads slow, but eventually, on a virtually antique 8GB iPhone 3G on AT&T. I think it looks ok once loaded, but there seems to be a lot more "overhead" the phone has to deal with. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view th

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

I had a good LBS install a Chris King on my Sam over the winter after the original Tange started feeling wonky. Granted, the Tange was installed by Riv but set-up by me, which easily explains the issue! ;) The Chris King is beautiful. I agree with Ryan that going with the best for parts you rare

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

I think Jan Heine once said needle bearing headsets help. I read somewhere that the one he prefers (Miche, I think?) is, of course, out of production. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: [RBW] Re: Headset Issue

Thanks. Sorry for the mis-information. I should know better than to repeat something I read on the internet somewhere! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/

[RBW] Re: Oddness?

What's odd is that he describes it as "his" bike, yet offers a description that includes irrelevant things like overall length.. describes the tires by the rim manufacturer, etc. You need to know more than that about bikes just to ORDER a Betty! He may have acquired it second hand, but as others

[RBW] Re: Fishy Betty

I never cease to be impressed what an upstanding company Riv is and what a fine group this is. Who knew Riv's came with a whole host of "guardian angels"? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web vi

[RBW] Re: Riv Branding

I don't see how "reserving" the Rivendell logotype for customs makes any sense at all. It's the company name, not the model. Schwinn didn't reserve "Schwinn" for only high-end bikes, nor does Serotta refrain from putting "Serotta" on production frames, etc etc. Further, the only people you're "re

Re: [RBW] Re: How Much Difference Would Different Wheels/Tires Make

re good 26" tires - Do Schwalbe Kojaks come in 559x50? I have 700x35's (which are actually barely 32's) on my Sam and love them. I think wheel and tire weight makes a big difference in feel, if not actual speed, because they are moving so fast compared to the rest of the bike and rider. Jan Hein

Re: [RBW] Help - can't ride for the lack of a bolt

Patrick Why yes, I do save any extra hardware I get. A small organizer / caddy has 4,5,6 mm nuts bolts washers etc, plus leather washers, cable end ferrules, fender hardware, headset spacers, valve stem caps, and so on. I find I'm in there almost every day making a deposit or withdrawal of one s

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Job Opening, Shipping Department.

I read it exactly the way Grant explained it. I imagine there are a lot of people out there who would expect to get a foot in the door assuming that, once there, everyone would be so impressed with their designing, building, marketing, whatever skills that they'd be hailed as the next GP and giv

[RBW] Re: High Rocky Place, Mt Diablo Solo S240 on the SimpleOne

Wow. Great ride, write-up, and photos! For a moment there I forgot I was at work! Thanks for that. -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bun

[RBW] Re: Did the price go up on new Sam Hillborne frames?

They noted this price jump with regret a while ago. As far as I can discern, the current Sam line-up is: 48cm - Waterford - single TT - 650b - canti brakes? - BB, headset, no seatpost - $1500 52cm - Waterford - single TT - 650b - canti brakes? - BB, headset, no seatpost - $1500 56cm - Taiwan -

[RBW] 3 nice things from Rivendell

Looking at the photo on the RBW site, I thought hanging a pair of bells off the rails of a Brooks would be the Riv equivalent of Truck Nutz!! :-D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit http

[RBW] Grant's new game...

Caption for the Grant photo: "Hmmm, we need to come up with a harder game." congrats! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1HrlYylLHWwJ.

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Build

It sounds like you have 90% of the build already figured out, maybe except pedals and bars? These seem like 2 things your LBS would let you test out without "abusing" the privelidge too much. If you have a 10 mi commute each way, that means you do 100 miles a week just commuting, and it's likely

[RBW] Lots o' bikes for sale lately

The Gomez is back up. It's a big mixte - a 62 - which happens to be my size. Tempting! Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N-ivL6

Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojaks

Another vote for Kojaks. I run 700 x 35's (actually measure about 31.5mm on Velocity Dyads) as the "sporty" tire on my Sam and really like them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit http

Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojaks

I usually run 700x35 TG Kevlar paselas, and the Kojaks feel much livlier. But that is probably due entirely to the fact that they are about 100g lighter. I originally tried them afer reading the BQ test about the "optimum" tire for given wheel size. Jan felt that 700's need to be lighter than 6

Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojaks

Likewise insignificant, but last weekend I just got my first ever puncture in a belted tire - a nail in my TG Pasela. Now that I've jinxed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Kojaks

I asked PW a few months back and they were discontinued. Now removed from the PJW web page too, apparently. -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-

[RBW] What Bags work with Nitto F-15 Bar Sack Bag Rack?

This is exactly what drives me nuts about the Barsack and rack combo. You have a bag that only works with one rack, and a rack that's only good for carrying one bag. It seems totally anti-Riv (though I am aware that anything Riv does is, by definition, Riv-ish!) They talk so much about versatili

[RBW] Re: why do people like front rando bags?

There are some benefits to the front bag, depending on your needs. It's not necessary to use "only" a front bag, and many people combine front and rear as needed. Among the benefits are the ability to easily get things from the bag while you are riding, the ability to see your bag at all times (

[RBW] Re: What Bags work with Nitto F-15 Bar Sack Bag Rack?

No doubt that the Nitto rack is a fine piece of bike jewellery. I've no doubt it will mount to most bars easily. Though you probably want to take it off when you're not using the bag, since it serves no other function and looks like it would be pointy and menacing. I guess I just don't understan

[RBW] My first S24O

Zack Beautiful bike. Man, every detail on that is so sweet. I would have fainted if I opened a box from Riv and saw that! I have never bike camped (best I can manage is a "Sub 2-to-4 Hour" ride) so at first it looked like an awful lot of baggage, but there's nothing on your list you could omit,

Re: [RBW] Carrying yoga mat on your Rivendell?

Is this the same kind of thin mat I see sticking out of purses and packs all over Manhattan? If so, I really can't imagine carrying that little thing on yor back would cramp your style. Do you really need a $100 piece of hardware to carry the same thing that every 19 year old model wanna be sch

[RBW] Re: So...sick...of...flats....UGH!

Back east we don't have goatheads, we have s**theads, who throw their empty beer bottles out of their cars. I'm sure it's endlessly frustrating to deal with the things nature throws at you, but dealing with the things people throw might be worse. Nature isn't ignorant or malicious. Still, I've

Re: [RBW] Re: NYC S24O

That's quite impressive archbishop. I'm curious how you got to the western NJ sites... Train bike combo I assume? I lived in Manhattan for 12 years but never really considered a S24O. Now I'm in CT and don't see a lot of nearby camping opportunites. I think I need to take a page from the NYC cr

[RBW] New Rivendell Tee Shirts?

I think this is a great idea, though I imagine ordering a dozen or so designs might be a duanting prospect for Riv. I think a design for each model with the headbadge on the front (maybe the left breast pocket location) and a drawing of the bike on the back would be fantastic. Maybe there is s

[RBW] Re: New vs original grid grey fabric and leather trimmings...

That looks different enough that they should be calling it by another name. I'm disappointed - I had been waiting for a grid grey XS, but that won't match my current bag any better than a green one would... -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

I did a large (3000+ riders) metric century earlier in the summer and got a number of comments. The first, as expected, was from a passing roadie to his buddies, "Man, it's gonna be a long day on THAT thing," referring to my Sam. Happily, it got better after that. I got passed by probably severa

[RBW] Re: Twin legged kickstand

I use one on my LHT commutility bike and love it. I cut the legs down so that one wheel is only 1/2" off the ground (it usually sits nose-down when empty, but tail-down with anything on the back. It had it almost perfectly balanced the other day, so it would rock back and forth on its Big Apples

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